Been a Long Time Coming ~ Been a long Time Gone

[Harkin]

Yes you are haha.... Well with only being a noob, when I started I went straight for the HPS due to the fact that it gives more lumens per watt. But after reading and investigating it's becoming clearer that I will need some other form of lighting along the way. Like you say HPS will give you quantity, but not as much quality, which is what I prefer. So we need to find a way of manipulating the lights to maybe 1) create big buds with HPS, 2) then hit it with light spectrum that will make it stronger. Hopefully the UVB will play some part in that, maybe not much but ever little helps. Thats why for my next grow I'm adding a 250w envirolite, which can have either blue or red bulbs, and so I can swap the blue and red around at times that it will produce a better grow ie stronger but also big buds.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Here's a link to a thread I started, asking questions when I first started growing. This was on my very first grow.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/1057-red-blue-light.html

 

[skunkushybrid]

Yes both lights are needed... not really just both lights, but a combination of lights giving off varying wavelengths. If we can master that, then we could create new plants that are extra potent, and extra yielding.

 

[Your Grandfather]

I also believe something else I read, that hps grown plants are full of cbd. This ties in perfectly with my theory on the 2 cells in the trich'. One cell is for thc, the other cbd. One blue, one red. Which is why we need a combination of lights. Every light from the spectrum would be good, even far red might be good. With the right manipulation of light spectrums we could force the plant to evolve into something like the world has never seen.

Am I mad?

If you combine red & blue does anyone know the resultant color?

 

[skunkushybrid]

Purple... but this doesn't mean the plant sees purple.

 

[Your Grandfather]

Yes both lights are needed... not really just both lights, but a combination of lights giving off varying wavelengths. If we can master that, then we could create new plants that are extra potent, and extra yielding.

Now we are talking !!!!!

I, personally, am tired of living with the old shit. Here is my Euro, take me to the moon.

*Euro is sooo much better than worthless USD.

 

[skunkushybrid]

Well it most likely does, but I mean this might not be it's ideal spectrum.

 

[Your Grandfather]

Here is today's UV map. Plus, it is the best source I've found so far for what I think I'm trying to find.
EPA SunWise: UV Index

 

[Your Grandfather]

well it seems we must also learn a bit about 'non-ionizing radiation protection (NIRP).

 

[Your Grandfather]

So here is today's question.

If you have the same size, cubic feet & dimensions, grow space.

One has 12 CFL's and the other has 6.

One has 98 bright paper as the reflective surface - 12 cfl's (10-100watt equivalent & 2 - 75watt equivalent @ 6,500k)

The other has same brightness but UV coated - 6 cfl's (4 - 100watt equivalent & 2 - 60 watt equivalent @6,500k)

Question - using plants from same DNA and germinated at the exact same time, fed the exact same thing. Which plants grew more robustly? And if there was a difference, how much difference was there, if any?

The plants in the regular paper grow or the UV coated?

 

[HotNSexyMILF]

Your babies look great. =)

 

[tahoe58]

hey man...liking how ur plants r looking.....keep r going!

the question?...hmmmm.....I'd like to say ....give me a moment, and I'll have a puff and then give it some thought....BUT....my bud won't be ready for another couple of months....grrrr......

my answer without the assistance of bud....I believe the coated paper, but it will only be marginally measureable difference. then again...I could be wrong...

 

[Your Grandfather]

Yes you are haha.... Well with only being a noob, when I started I went straight for the HPS due to the fact that it gives more lumens per watt. But after reading and investigating it's becoming clearer that I will need some other form of lighting along the way. Like you say HPS will give you quantity, but not as much quality, which is what I prefer. So we need to find a way of manipulating the lights to maybe 1) create big buds with HPS, 2) then hit it with light spectrum that will make it stronger. Hopefully the UVB will play some part in that, maybe not much but ever little helps. Thats why for my next grow I'm adding a 250w envirolite, which can have either blue or red bulbs, and so I can swap the blue and red around at times that it will produce a better grow ie stronger but also big buds.

What's the spec of that bulb? Did it have any kind of technical information on the packaging you could share with us?

 

[Your Grandfather]

Thanks H&S

Your babies look great. =)

 

[Harkin]

What's the spec of that bulb? Did it have any kind of technical information on the packaging you could share with us?

Which the UVB light? It's a Repti-Glo.... 10.0UVB.....25w...which has 10% UVB and 33% UVA...and its made by Exo-Terra... you can find a link to what the bulb looks like here https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/33494-ww-16-days-growing-weird-7.html#post375149 hope that helps

 

[skunkushybrid]

Yeah i looked into those earlier. it seems the 10. ones are the best. Do they give off much heat? I read they have a 20" range.

 

[Your Grandfather]

Judging by my eye_it is red_I'd say the growth in the box with the UV coated paper has at least a 10% better rate of growth, PLUS, it is only using 1/2 the power.


*Things that make you say. hmmmmmm

 

[Your Grandfather]

Oh my, questions, questions.

Does uv light get absorbed? I think so.

How does the light propagate? Normal light needs big % increments_eg. you can not see the difference between a 20w and a 30w, but you can certainly see the difference between a 20w and a 40w-so in this case, it takes 100% for the light to propagate.

By reflecting the UV wave, does it change the wavelength?

 

[tahoe58]

absorbed - by what...the paper?

seems to me like its time to pull a "honey, I shrunk the kids" move and go down there and see? hahahahaha

Oh my, questions, questions.

Does uv light get absorbed? I think so.

How does the light propagate? Normal light needs big % increments_eg. you can not see the difference between a 20w and a 30w, but you can certainly see the difference between a 20w and a 40w-so in this case, it takes 100% for the light to propagate.

By reflecting the UV wave, does it change the wavelength?

 

[skunkushybrid]

Yes, because the wavelength has further to travel... unless, we built something that resembled a trichome... a magnifier. This reminds me of another thread I started when I first joined. I didn't know what I was saying, or how to say it... the thread was called Indoor Greenhouse.