Sensi Star and White Russian

speedyseedz

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I just purchased some more seeds from a reputable seed bank. I can't help myself :)
I decided to use the stealth shipping option. I know they say you shouldn't say how your seeds get to you, but they should deliver the seeds inside a stuffed rabbit by special scottish courier riding a black ox pulling a gypsy wagon. I figure this is stealthy enough, but a little expensive.

Serious Seeds Bubblegum
Serious Seeds Kali Mist

yum
hope you got lots of head room for them, if you thought the wr stretched your in for a shock.
 

Man o' the green

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Clones have rooted as of 2/1 and this morning 2/2, one has roots through the rockwool ( overnight )
It appears that all 12 rooted, 4 WR 4 CH 4 SuSt, back to front. I have to keep track this way, since they haven't been transferred to the labeled cubes yet. Should be ready for the veg box in a few days.

Clones rooting has to make you feel good. It's an amazing transformation. :weed:

edit : additional note , moved SuSt to 4 rockwool cubes and left the WR and CH ( back to front )
 

Man o' the green

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If you've read this already, sorry for the dup..

Moved the three plants into the flowering room, moby dick, blue hash, and hash haze.
Moved the clones from the small box to the large box. Placed the SuSt in RW cubes, did the same with the Chocolope and WR. Watered thoroughly and placed the dome on the WR and Chocolope. Hopefully the SuSt will be ok without a dome.
1) SuSt
2) Chocolope
3) WR
4) WR, Choc, and SuSt from left to right.
5) Showing root development on clone of Chocolope
 

madcatter

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Good job, week to dry, a month to cure and great smoke is coming out your ears.... It is so nice to get a few jars ahead so that you can sit and wait for nature to do its thing...:peace::weed:
 

FireCoral

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Russians are looking good 8)

What happened to the chocolope's lower leaves? I have something similar going on with my Russians right now and I'm trying to figure it out. Take a look at my journal from my update titled "Week #5" to see.
 

Man o' the green

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Russians are looking good 8)

What happened to the chocolope's lower leaves? I have something similar going on with my Russians right now and I'm trying to figure it out. Take a look at my journal from my update titled "Week #5" to see.
Oh, that's a good observation. This seems to happen to my clones every time, I'm sure it's process related.
The lower leaves on these little ones are the largest leaves left from cutting. These leaves seem to die after a couple weeks. I believe that they have been sitting in conditions that are really too humid, falling down into nute solution occasionally, and this results in their dying every time. I'm basically happy as long as the new growth looks good.
 

Man o' the green

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Still quite early in flowering for most of these plants, between 10 and 18 days, with the exception of Sativa B, which has been flowering for 10 weeks or so. I'm surprised at how vigorous the feminized seeds are, HH, BH, MD they are monsters already with a short veg.

- The chocolope smells wonderful
- I have no idea when the Sativa B will be ready, but I will flower it long, I'm in no hurry

1) White Russian flowers in white light
2) Sativa B
3) Hashplant Haze
4) White Russian side flowering
5) White Russian top flowering
6) Chocolope flowering
7) Moby Dick
 

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FireCoral

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Oh, that's a good observation. This seems to happen to my clones every time, I'm sure it's process related.
The lower leaves on these little ones are the largest leaves left from cutting. These leaves seem to die after a couple weeks. I believe that they have been sitting in conditions that are really too humid, falling down into nute solution occasionally, and this results in their dying every time. I'm basically happy as long as the new growth looks good.
I'm pretty sure my leaves are doing that from transplanting into a hot soil. I never had a problem with my White Satins, but maybe the Russians are just more sensitive? I know White Satin is supposed to be an easy grow, so they're probably hearty enough to endure a transfer into hot soil. My Russians are from seed, so I guess it's hard to compare to your clones. Hmmm.. Oh well.

Yours are looking good! I wish I can get my plant all bushy like that. I'm working on that now. Switching to floros for clones and seeds and will put them under my current 250w MH after 3 weeks instead of having them under it from the get-go. I'm hoping this will make them more bushy since I can have the light right on top of them instead of 7in away.

So does that chocolope smell like chocolate or what? I might have to get some of that if it does! And you might be waiting a while for Sativa B. I know sativas take much longer (like 16+ weeks) to flower. I think that's insanity. Good thing I prefer indicas!
 

Man o' the green

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So does that chocolope smell like chocolate or what? I might have to get some of that if it does! And you might be waiting a while for Sativa B. I know sativas take much longer (like 16+ weeks) to flower. I think that's insanity. Good thing I prefer indicas!
Well, I'm working on a smell library ( seriously ) so I can tell them apart if necessary, but I can't get my descriptions right - couldn't do that smell / taste with wine either, btw. But my analysis is chocolate and oil, not more specific than that yet.
I've decided to let sativa B die by dehydration. I really don't have the patience or space for another plant right now, and after I smoke it, my experiment with bag seed should be closed. I just have to say how superior the plants from seedbanks are, I never would have imagined the difference.
I wish I could say I preferred indicas or sativas.. I just don't have enough all around smoking experience yet ( with known strains ) , but I should soon.. Lots of smoking the same clones, over and over recently. But I will say that the WR rocks over everything from all my experience with it.
 

Man o' the green

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I screwed up, I forgot to make a post about getting my seeds.
I got my delivery on wednesday ( 2/17 ) and planted immediately that evening. I used small rockwool cubes and rapid rooter plugs in the center. No prep, just drop the seed in the center hole and water. Put a humidity dome on top. Did six ( regular seeds ) of each type : Kali Mist and Bubblegum. I saved five seeds of each for later. ( got 11 total ) I also got 5 free feminized, which I stored for later as well.

Here are the progress pictures from the clones and seeds. Of the row of blocks, the Kali Mist is on the left, and the Bubblegum is on the right. Note, the humidity dome is off.
Clones are left to right WR,Choc, and Super Star.

I'm not happy with the super star mothers or clones, they stretch way too much. I've decided not to clone these again.
 

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Man o' the green

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Hey, Mr Man. Where'd you go? :?
Good question .. lol
I've been a little busy, but mostly I've been waiting and watching as they grow.
I have 10 seedlings, 8 of which are doing well, the other two I will just have to see. I've determined that not using the wet paper towel method is risky at best. I will definitely do that next time.
It's night time for the flowering room, so more pix will have to wait until this evening, but here you can see :

1) Seedlings, left- Kali Mist, Right - Bubblegum, xenon light.
2) Four chocolope, one white russian in the bottom left xenon light.
3) Entire box, four white russian in the center. xenon light.
4) Entire box, florescent light.
5) Seedlings, florescent light.
6) Clones, florescent light.
 

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FireCoral

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Ok. I get worried when people disappear from here! Haha!

Everything is looking pretty good. Never heard of Xenon Light before, I'll have to look it up! Have you finished that strain yet? If so, how do you like it?

Also, I never used the paper towel method, except in school for lima beans. I was thinking of using that method for the seeds on my first grow, but my boyfriend said he looked up germination methods and dropping the seeds in water til they sink then putting them in Jiffy Pellets was the best way to go and that the paper towel method doesn't work with marijuana. But now I see more and more people that use that method. How exactly do you do it? What are the benefits of using that method?
 

Man o' the green

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Everything is looking pretty good. Never heard of Xenon Light before, I'll have to look it up! Have you finished that strain yet? If so, how do you like it?

Also, I never used the paper towel method, except in school for lima beans. I was thinking of using that method for the seeds on my first grow, but my boyfriend said he looked up germination methods and dropping the seeds in water til they sink then putting them in Jiffy Pellets was the best way to go and that the paper towel method doesn't work with marijuana. But now I see more and more people that use that method. How exactly do you do it? What are the benefits of using that method?
Sorry, I get techie about the xenon light, it's nothing more than a standard camera flash.
I've only smoked SS, WR and sativa A and sativa B. Sat. A is near worthless, it looks great, tastes minty, but has no potency. Sat. B is quite a surprise, has a mild taste, but a very "tingly" sort of head buzz. Very nice for a lift.
The paper towel method is probably the best for mj from what I've found, it gives the seeds both totally high humidity and plenty of oxygen as it hydrates. The main disadvantage is keeping track of your seed strains. What I've found, is that truly dry seeds, as you might get from a seed bank, hydrate unevenly if put directly in soil or hydro medium like the plugs I use. You end up with seeds that sprout, but due to uneven hydration, may have leaf issues as they start, which delay growth and sometimes kill the plant entirely. Submerging them in water is one certain method of hydration, but does not give much oxygen, and you can't let the seeds sit at the bottom more than a few hours without saturating them. You never want your seeds to turn to mush inside.
Peat pellets are great once you have a tiny root coming out just after cracking, but wait too long and the root becomes fragile, and moving it may break it - game over.
Ideally, you want to get a tray or plate, soak a good paper towel, or several layers of towels that suck, and put the seeds between the layers of towel. Saturate the whole thing with pH 6 corrected water or hydro solution. Don't let the seeds be totally submerged, just let the paper be as wet as possible. Let sit in a warm area, dark or light, you pick. Then wait until the seeds crack - you will only have a few hours - put them in peat. Water completely after putting them just a few mm below the surface. Then keep the peat moist - you may have to let it stand in a small amount of water, with a humidity dome. Being concerned about the orientation of the seed ( up or down ) is not important, the plant will figure it out, and the more you screw with it, the worse the outcome.
Hope that helps.
Next comes the flowering room.
 

Man o' the green

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Here are a few random pics from the flower room. It's a bit crowded in there. The Super Star clones were stretching under blue light, so I put them in the flower room early, I don't want them to end up too big. I'm not satisfied with this plant (Super Star). I'll smoke it of course, but this will be the last of them.

1) Super Star clones
2) Sensi Star cola
3) Hashplant Haze ( very Haze / Sativa looking )
4) Blue Hash
5) White Russian cola
6) Moby Dick
 

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