ss420's journal #3...

[smokingrubber]

bithday is coming up this sunday

i love the rack.. it really saves on space...

i took clones but i also started new seeds.. basically so i could keep a couple clones of the ones i liked best plus start some new.. just looking for the perfect phenos to keep going..

as of now i think i am going to fall in love with the pineapple express.. shit looks like it will yield high... and just over all plant structure is ideal to me...

Happy Birthday!

I love the rack too. I'm glad there was no difference between hanging them.

The Pinapple Express, when will you have a smoke report on that? I'm always looking for a quality strain. Where did you get the PA seeds?

 

[simpsonsampson420]

it'll be a while before i know anything on the pineapple express.. they are only 2 weeks into flowering.. so im guessing 8 weeks at least.....

all the seeds i got were through attitude

thanks for the birthday wishes

 

[simpsonsampson420]

so its looking like i hit over 2 ounces per plant...

when you take the 3 that didnt flower, dont count the soil ones (between the lot of them they may have made a 1/2 ounce... i neglected them hard core), and take away the one auto that had too much ruderalis in it to use (it looked like a damn hemp plant), which takes you down to only the true usable plants i got 2.5 ounces per auto almost... pretty good i'd say.. more than i thought i'd have...

oh yeah.. its basically 18 usable plants... lol guess i should have said that...

 

[mygirls]

thats good to here. way to go bro. i started my outdoor journal fort2010. better get your set while you can.hahahaha

 

[slipperyP]

thats good to here. way to go bro. i started my outdoor journal fort2010. better get your set while you can.hahahaha

lol...cant wait.....Hope things have been good MG.



Whats up sampson....the photos look nice 2 zips a plant thats a nice yeild, glad to see the hydro is working out for you. Its easy to neglect the dirt crop when the other is less work and higher yeilding.

I have been off of RUI for the most part doing other things and I have some catching up to do....

I just went down to vegas for about a week....For anyone in the cold weather states I would highly suggest getting into the sun for a week...I have so much energy and am in better spirits from the weather.

I went down to play poker and spent almost the whole time playings black jack and craps. I came home down less then $100 bucks after for days of straight gambling. It was real fun we stayed 4 and got comped for more free nights when we come back and we practically ate for free.

My connect that I know in vegas was real busy and wouldn't bring any meds so I had to break down and by meds from a street hustler...Mex for $60...That shit ended up costing more then the flights and rooms...lol

I just wanted to stop and say whats up since im not updating my journal till I start the new one....Ill be lurking behind the convo....peace

 

[simpsonsampson420]

glad you had a fun trip slip.... wish i could get away for a while.. seems everytime i get a chance something new comes up.. im waiting on my female pit to have her litter of pups... yep.. more dogs for me... lol

been really slackin on the journal thing lately guys.. i appologize... not really.. but still.. lol

harvest was nice... got over 2oz per auto.. i was way under a good grm/watt average.. but i was more than happy to get what i got from them... smoke is nice and good... very couch lock style.. they were a fun little experiment.. but nothing i would keep around and grow on a normal...

the ladies i am flowering now are looking amazing!! filling out wonderfully... 4 weeks in and dripping with resin already... they will be lovely in the end...

waiting on coco coir to come in so i can put the clones, seedling i have into their sites... get them vegging.. going to have to very aggressively veg them.. i think i am going to go well over a 2.0ec on them... the flowering girls are going up to a 3.0+ec next res change.. im going to POUND them with nutrients...

i have been thinking about a theory on nute burn.... i dont think it exists... well thats a bad way to put it.... let me try to explain it...

your plants root system controls the intake of water and nutes... it will only allow what is needed by the plant through... its not like a pump that continuously brings shit into the plant.. it only brings what it needs when it needs it...

so assuming you have a balanced ph (both water and soil are correct.. or just water in a hydro environment), good environmental conditions, and a strong plant/root system, i dont think you can actual burn your plants...

i think "burn" is cause by other factors...

1, stress.. a stressed plant wont absorb or utilize the nutes correctly.. this can cause a back up of nutes, or cause certain nutes to be over used while others are under used.. over used coming from the plants need to fix itself.. (think of a kid taking too much medicine to try to get better)... and that over utilization of a specific nute while others go under used is a major cause of burn...

2, ph issues.... always have to go into this... as it is true it causes huge issues... mainly because of how ph problems get fixed.... this pertains mostly to soil applications... but holds true to hydro too... in hydro its easy tho.. as long as your ph meter is calibrated right and the solution is ph'd right you should be fine... in soil tho.. its another area all together.. a lot of growers arent aware that you have to test soil ph with a soil ph meter... they assume if you water with ph6.5 water that the soil must be that ph also.. so they just feed and water like its nothing.... then all of a sudden the plant looks like shit and they wonder why.. its easy to pick the ph as the problem.. but then they want then they go the easy route of fixing it, which is ph up/down... and it works.. but the problem is how the ph got fucked in the first place.. which is due to salt build up... so when it gets corrected and everything becomes available again, the enviroment in the soil becomes SUPER toxic... there is an abundance of unused nutes.... plus there is a chance for osmotic shock.... those two things (a build up of unused nutes and osomtic shock) will cause your plant to freak out and appear burnt... without flushing the soil thoroughly prior to adjusting ph the problem doesnt get fixed...

i really have spent a lot of time thinking about this.. if we feed what the plant needs, and meet all other requirements, keeping everything in balance, then there is no way to over feed your plant.. its when things start getting out of balance with one another that the potential to "burn" becomes possible...

now this doesnt hold true for seedlings/sprouts.. there must be somewhat of an established root system.. but i think the idea holds true...

i even think when we see a little bit of brown around the edges of the plant its not a sign of burn, but a sign of a def... its the plant starting to pull nutes from the leaves to make up for the slight nute def it has... its not a huge def.. just a slight one.. next time you see that happening (if you do) increase the nutes by just a little and see if it doesnt improve..

this all comes from thinking obviously.. but from experiences as well.. and trial and error on my part.. not just some wack ideal... any thoughts??

 

[mygirls]

glad you had a fun trip slip.... wish i could get away for a while.. seems everytime i get a chance something new comes up.. im waiting on my female pit to have her litter of pups... yep.. more dogs for me... lol

been really slackin on the journal thing lately guys.. i apologize... not really.. but still.. lol

harvest was nice... got over 2oz per auto.. i was way under a good grm/watt average.. but i was more than happy to get what i got from them... smoke is nice and good... very couch lock style.. they were a fun little experiment.. but nothing i would keep around and grow on a normal...

the ladies i am flowering now are looking amazing!! filling out wonderfully... 4 weeks in and dripping with resin already... they will be lovely in the end...

waiting on coco coir to come in so i can put the clones, seedling i have into their sites... get them vegging.. going to have to very aggressively veg them.. i think i am going to go well over a 2.0ec on them... the flowering girls are going up to a 3.0+ec next res change.. im going to POUND them with nutrients...

i have been thinking about a theory on nute burn.... i dont think it exists... well that's a bad way to put it.... let me try to explain it...

your plants root system controls the intake of water and nutes... it will only allow what is needed by the plant through... its not like a pump that continuously brings shit into the plant.. it only brings what it needs when it needs it...

so assuming you have a balanced ph (both water and soil are correct.. or just water in a hydro environment), good environmental conditions, and a strong plant/root system, i dont think you can actual burn your plants...

i think "burn" is cause by other factors...

1, stress.. a stressed plant wont absorb or utilize the notes correctly.. this can cause a back up of nantes, or cause certain nantes to be over used while others are under used.. over used coming from the plants need to fix itself.. (think of a kid taking too much medicine to try to get better)... and that over utilization of a specific nute while others go under used is a major cause of burn...

2, ph issues.... always have to go into this... as it is true it causes huge issues... mainly because of how ph problems get fixed.... this pertains mostly to soil applications... but holds true to hydro too... in hydro its easy tho.. as long as your ph meter is calibrated right and the solution is phd right you should be fine... in soil tho.. its another area all together.. a lot of growers aren't aware that you have to test soil ph with a soil ph meter... they assume if you water with ph6.5 water that the soil must be that ph also.. so they just feed and water like its nothing.... then all of a sudden the plant looks like shit and they wonder why.. its easy to pick the ph as the problem.. but then they want then they go the easy route of fixing it, which is ph up/down... and it works.. but the problem is how the ph got fucked in the first place.. which is due to salt build up... so when it gets corrected and everything becomes available again, the environment in the soil becomes SUPER toxic... there is an abundance of unused nantes.... plus there is a chance for osmotic shock.... those two things (a build up of unused nantes and osmotic shock) will cause your plant to freak out and appear burnt... without flushing the soil thoroughly prior to adjusting ph the problem doesn't get fixed...

i really have spent a lot of time thinking about this.. if we feed what the plant needs, and meet all other requirements, keeping everything in balance, then there is no way to over feed your plant.. its when things start getting out of balance with one another that the potential to "burn" becomes possible...

now this doesn't hold true for seedlings/sprouts.. there must be somewhat of an established root system.. but i think the idea holds true...

i even think when we see a little bit of brown around the edges of the plant its not a sign of burn, but a sign of a def... its the plant starting to pull nantes from the leaves to make up for the slight nute def it has... its not a huge def.. just a slight one.. next time you see that happening (if you do) increase the nantes by just a little and see if it doesn't improve..

this all comes from thinking obviously.. but from experiences as well.. and trial and error on my part.. not just some wack ideal... any thoughts??

hey bro glad to here things went good on the harvest. wondering what happendto you.
bad PH will cause the lock up on the root in witch plants will not take in anything or very little. nute burs is way to much nitrogen , but you know this already. but ph i dont think has any thing to do with nute burn. but anyways wazzup how the hell have you been. i've been busy with getting the green house setup.

 

[tilemaster]

sup pimps.......

 

[mygirls]

sup pimps.......

what up with u. hows thing growing in your garden..

 

[simpsonsampson420]

hey bro glad to here things went good on the harvest. wondering what happendto you.
bad PH will cause the lock up on the root in witch plants will not take in anything or very little. nute burs is way to much nitrogen , but you know this already. but ph i dont think has any thing to do with nute burn. but anyways wazzup how the hell have you been. i've been busy with getting the green house setup.

its not the ph itself.. what i was trying to say is that the salt build up causes ph issues which cause lock out... that salt is still nutrients.. and lock out happens over time.. so at a point where lock out is in full effect and your plant is suffering severly from defs, there is actually a TON of nutes in the soil still that just cant be used... so when the ph is adjusted and all those nutes can be absorbed again, in order for the plant to make up for its def, it over absorbs thusly burning itself.... does that make more sense??

been good bro... my pit is getting ready to have her litter any day now.. getting ready for more puppies.... trying to get some girls vegging.. just waiting for medium... waiting for girls to finish flowering.. half way or about now... other than that just living bro...

green house should be sick this year.. really looking forward to it...

sup pimps.......

what up brotha man.. long time no see.. how things going??

 

[tilemaster]

what up with u. hows thing growing in your garden..

hey Mg...the gardens blown up. yea if have 6 1kers in the budd room with 2 600's in the middle of em... so 7200w over about 100 girls in 7 gallon grow bags . they sit on rubber mats on slab and in Ocean Forrest now. i found on the last few runs the 3 and 5 gallons got a bit root bound (despite FDD theory and wut not) , and then the leaves prematurely drop and yellow and yield is sacrificed. so know in veg or even after a week of flip i got to a bigger pot . im feeding with a leg tank hooked to a wayne pump, and feeding every 4 days with fox farms big bloom / tiger bloom/ and roots organic trinity. lil ph down dat it. every feeding. been getting 2-4 zones. sometimes alot more. ill try to locate a quick pic

what up brotha man.. long time no see.. how things going??

Good good. still running that cloner of urz . non stop. i double em in the neoprene theze days..

 

[simpsonsampson420]

looking good bro and making hella head way... shit looks like your doing it right!! sounds like you have a nice routine down.. girls are healthy looking.. what can i say but fucks ya bro!

im getting ready to get a new ezcloner for myself.. i want to get the 120 site and build a seperate clone/sprout area in another room for it... planning ahead for when i get the coliseum up... then its basically vegging 12 mothers for 60 days.... taking clones.... flowering the mothers... starting new clones to veg for 60 days (new mothers basically).. and the rest into the coliseum.. if all goes right im figuring around 7ish lbs for the coliseum and around that much or more from the mothers... im getting my average up there... just gotta keep pushing... im hoping to break 6oz per plant this grow...

 

[tilemaster]

hell ya love to seee i guess wut i call green growing ... where a knowledgeable person takes a small area and pushs mad wieght from it. usually seem like hydro setups like urs or flood trays. opposed to the kind of room im using to obtain the same goals. is wut it is. but i cant wait to have some more room and time to experiment with some more hydro. wanna try some flood trays with 2gal soil containers and coco...

cant wait to see some new pics ss....

 

[simpsonsampson420]

ill get some pics up soon... thats for sure....

really tho.. we have to keep things in perspective.. i have over half of your total wattage in an area probably half as big.. its basically what i have to do to push my plants and get the results i want... if i was trying to be at all efficient i would be well below where i am.... hell as far as efficiency goes im sure you got me beat!!

i think it would be bad ass to see your go with two CAP systems... it'd only be 98 plants you could hold.. but i can imagine your results would make me cry.. lol i have to give it up to you bro.. that is HELLA work you are putting in..

 

[tilemaster]

ya that would be sick huh. but i like my lil way of things for now. i take the root balls out back and spread them discreatly through the back yard. man my grass should be growing this summer back there. i was sayn that i thought hydro might be a bit more efffecient. ur probably near my yields as u say with half the space and wattage. i can def see the usefullnesss of a new steel building say 30x 60 would be nice. spray the entire fucker with urethane and start hanging shit. i was actually doing the math and if i could just aquire property id say i could build the steel building from the foundation and footing ups, for probably less than 20 k done. . . house say 241kers for to 12 lamp bud rooms, and like a 5-7 1k mh veg room . sounds tits huh. bud room never goes out, use 12 ballasts to run ea room back to back for 12 hours, then go offf, then ballasts run other budd room for the other 12 hours. *12 ballasts never going out for 24 lamps...

 

[simpsonsampson420]

that would be sick bro.. of course you know i'd say by-pass the MH and go with satellite floros.... but thats just me... lol but yea, i could see that working quite well... hell it might be reason enough for me to move....

 

[slipperyP]

ya that would be sick huh. but i like my lil way of things for now. i take the root balls out back and spread them discreatly through the back yard. man my grass should be growing this summer back there. i was sayn that i thought hydro might be a bit more efffecient. ur probably near my yields as u say with half the space and wattage. i can def see the usefullnesss of a new steel building say 30x 60 would be nice. spray the entire fucker with urethane and start hanging shit. i was actually doing the math and if i could just aquire property id say i could build the steel building from the foundation and footing ups, for probably less than 20 k done. . . house say 241kers for to 12 lamp bud rooms, and like a 5-7 1k mh veg room . sounds tits huh. bud room never goes out, use 12 ballasts to run ea room back to back for 12 hours, then go offf, then ballasts run other budd room for the other 12 hours. *12 ballasts never going out for 24 lamps...

I got some money on it...I don't know if i can get this video in the site....very inspiring....I called and talked to a rep for omega gardens about this for awile.

She said omega gives full support for the medical community it was a good conversation.

[youtube]watch?v=CCTOR6m3k9w&NR=1[/youtube]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCTOR6m3k9w&NR=1

 

[bluebeard]

Hay Bro,

Sorry I've been away for awhile. Went to florida to golf with my dad. The best courses and restaurants and you never have to bring your wallet. Got to love Dad. Well our veg room is all set up 8 1000w MH. We currently have 6 caregivers set up and they all have a min of 3 patients. Once we get both rooms set up on to the next 2 rooms. We can have up to 216 plants legal. You will have to comp up and check it out.

 

[simpsonsampson420]

I got some money on it...I don't know if i can get this video in the site....very inspiring....I called and talked to a rep for omega gardens about this for awile.

She said omega gives full support for the medical community it was a good conversation.

[youtube]watch?v=CCTOR6m3k9w&NR=1[/youtube]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCTOR6m3k9w&NR=1

that was a cool video... itd be crazy to have a warehouse grow full of those...

Hay Bro,

Sorry I've been away for awhile. Went to florida to golf with my dad. The best courses and restaurants and you never have to bring your wallet. Got to love Dad. Well our veg room is all set up 8 1000w MH. We currently have 6 caregivers set up and they all have a min of 3 patients. Once we get both rooms set up on to the next 2 rooms. We can have up to 216 plants legal. You will have to comp up and check it out.

sounds like you've had a good vacation.. i am about due for one... seems i just never have the time tho..

im thinking about investing in another garden... dunno for sure... wish i could just do it like the rest of you guys! damn i feel like im in the dark ages still.. lol i will most definitely take the trip up when you'll have me... i'd love to check things out...







quick update.. got the veg room flipped over and going again... got beautiful girls flowering... working on selecting the next set of genetics i want.. think i am going to go back to the tundra... do some white russian.. and keep the pineapple express... unless anyone else has a suggestion for a heavy indica??

 

[mygirls]

that was a cool video... itd be crazy to have a warehouse grow full of those...



sounds like you've had a good vacation.. i am about due for one... seems i just never have the time tho..

im thinking about investing in another garden... dunno for sure... wish i could just do it like the rest of you guys! damn i feel like im in the dark ages still.. lol i will most definitely take the trip up when you'll have me... i'd love to check things out...






quick update.. got the veg room flipped over and going again... got beautiful girls flowering... working on selecting the next set of genetics i want.. think i am going to go back to the tundra... do some white russian.. and keep the pineapple express... unless anyone else has a suggestion for a heavy indica??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ucgPSL9J48