Force-Flowering Outdoors

[Topo]

High everyone

I wanted to try something.....since growing indoors is no longer an option for me, I'm going to go back outside. I want to grow the Bubbles outside, and when they get about 1-2 feet tall, induce flowering.

In short, I want to veg them, and then bring them into earlier darkness to flower them. I'll just stick them in a cool dark closet.

Does any one know how much earlier I need to bring the plants in to start the flower cycle? Let's say I veg them until mid April. And then run them into the closet everyday earlier.

Does anyone have an idea how I can pull this off? Thanks!

 

[Topo]

Well folks, after doing a lot of research, it seems as though this can't be done until later in the season If I need to 12/12 to flower, I guess I have to wait until the days are super long before cutting back the hours. Otherwise, the plants won't sense that the days are getting shorter and won't flower.

 

[JohneyGreenApple]

Well folks, after doing a lot of research, it seems as though this can't be done until later in the season If I need to 12/12 to flower, I guess I have to wait until the days are super long before cutting back the hours. Otherwise, the plants won't sense that the days are getting shorter and won't flower.

Try this, it may stunt some strains until they are ready to flower naturally but we found that our indicas do great by...
Take a contractors heavy duty black garbage back and induce flowering with a light nute feeding and putting the plastic bags on them at 12 hours of light and let them sleeep the rest of the day, then the following morning take the plastic bag off and let them grow another 12 hours and then back on with the plastic bag.
Goodluck and happy trails!

 

[Topo]

Try this, it may stunt some strains until they are ready to flower naturally but we found that our indicas do great by...
Take a contractors heavy duty black garbage back and induce flowering with a light nute feeding and putting the plastic bags on them at 12 hours of light and let them sleeep the rest of the day, then the following morning take the plastic bag off and let them grow another 12 hours and then back on with the plastic bag.
Goodluck and happy trails!

Thanks for the great idea bro. In my area, we don't get 12/12 until March 17th. I'm assuming the plant won't flower under the 12/12 schedule until it has experienced very long daylight. Then, when I cut it back, it senses "winter is coming" and flowers.

Or.......is it possible to flower these plants just by giving them 12/12 all the way through? I'm thinking no. I always believed the that cutback in hours triggers flowering, as opposed to a fixed number like 12/12.

In other words, 12/12 won't work unless the plant has first experienced 14+ hour days, right?

Thank you for your kind input.

 

[JohneyGreenApple]

Thanks for the great idea bro. In my area, we don't get 12/12 until March 17th. I'm assuming the plant won't flower under the 12/12 schedule until it has experienced very long daylight. Then, when I cut it back, it senses "winter is coming" and flowers.

Or.......is it possible to flower these plants just by giving them 12/12 all the way through? I'm thinking no. I always believed the that cutback in hours triggers flowering, as opposed to a fixed number like 12/12.

In other words, 12/12 won't work unless the plant has first experienced 14+ hour days, right?

Thank you for your kind input.

Very Correct bro, You see the cut back of hours of light does trigger it. A flowering nute solution will stimulate it!
So try this:
IF your growing outdoors already and only have 12 hours of light in a given day, start feeding around week 2-3 with about a 1/3 the recommended nute solution on your bottles and then slowly increase that each week, by the last 4 weeks you should be at a full strength.

Now if your already starting your plants indoors and want to move them outdoors right now and the lighting is still above 12 hours, do my plastic bag concept as I posted in my last post and also give her a light nute solution after the first week of having the bag on it to induce your 12/12. I wouldnt feed her anything except plain water the first week of inducing flowering, that will be enough stress.
Take it slow and she will perform well in the long run!

 

[JohneyGreenApple]

Very Correct bro, You see the cut back of hours of light does trigger it. A flowering nute solution will stimulate it!
So try this:
IF your growing outdoors already and only have 12 hours of light in a given day, start feeding around week 2-3 with about a 1/3 the recommended nute solution on your bottles and then slowly increase that each week, by the last 4 weeks you should be at a full strength.

Now if your already starting your plants indoors and want to move them outdoors right now and the lighting is still above 12 hours, do my plastic bag concept as I posted in my last post and also give her a light nute solution after the first week of having the bag on it to induce your 12/12. I wouldnt feed her anything except plain water the first week of inducing flowering, that will be enough stress.
Take it slow and she will perform well in the long run!

I just noticed you said March 17th your flowering begins naturally, my bad!

Also try and set up your dark period so that when it is naturally 12/12 outside that it is the same time that you would be normally be putting your bag on for her to sleep.
Hence figure out what time of the day it is when it gets dark out in March when you normally see flowering begin outside.
Hope this helps you bro!

 

[one11]

i've heard of people doing 12/12 throughout the entire grow indoors. thats how they get those 'zen' looking plants that are small and just all buds. but i havent tried it myself so i dont know the details.

 

[JohneyGreenApple]

If you get your timing set pretty close you shouldnt notice hardly any stunting on her flowering when it comes time to throw the plastic bag method out and let the nature do its work!

 

[JohneyGreenApple]

i've heard of people doing 12/12 throughout the entire grow indoors. thats how they get those 'zen' looking plants that are small and just all buds. but i havent tried it myself so i dont know the details.

Yes you can go 12/12 throught the entire grow outdoors too, I wouldnt recomend it as you may be loosing a good portion of your yeild depending on your strain!

 

[Topo]

If you get your timing set pretty close you shouldnt notice hardly any stunting on her flowering when it comes time to throw the plastic bag method out and let the nature do its work!

Very cool . I think I'll be able to bring it into a completely dark cool closet to flower. I just want to fully understand the timing of the photoperiod since I'm playing with Mother Nature instead of my 600w HID.

Just in case I louse this up, I'm ordering some fem auto AK's from Attitude. Although my state doesn't honor medical marijuana, it's the only thing that helps me with my chronic Irritable Bowel Syndrome and anxiety/depression issues.

In other words, I can't let myself run out of good quality stash. There's nothing but shitty shwagg on the streets here.

Thanks everyone for reading and contributing.

 

[STZ]

Remember that the plants will commence flowering and move through the bud stage just fine with less than 12 hours of light as well. If u veg inside then u can put them outside every morning and back inside every night. I guess what im saying is you don't HAVE to wait till the 17th to start putting them outside and budding them out.

 

[alexonfire]

This is for Barneys Farm Seed Company:

Most cannabis plants cultivated in the Northern Hemisphere begin to flower by late July. The plants are harvested from October to November.
In much of the North and high-altitude areas, many varieties will not have time to complete flowering before fall frosts. To force the plants to flower earlier, give them longer night periods. If the plants are in containers, you can simply move them into a darkened area each evening.

Plants growing in the ground can be covered with an opaque tarpaulin, black sheet plastic, or double or triple-layers black plastic trash bags. Take advantage of any natural shading because direct sunlight is difficult to screen completely. For instance, if the plants are naturally shaded in the morning hours, cover the plants each evening or night. The next morning you uncover the plants at about eight to nine o'clock. Continue the treatment each day until all the plants are showing flowers. This usually takes two weeks at most, is the plants are well developed (about four months old). For this reason, where the season starts late, it is best to start the plants indoors or in cold frames and transplant outdoors when the weather is mild. This in effect lengthens the local growing season and gives the plants another month or two to develop.

Outdoor growers should always plant several varieties, because some may naturally flower early, even in the northern-most parts of the country. By planting several varieties, many of you will be able to find or develop an early-maturing variety after a season or two. This, of course, is an important point, because it eliminates the need for long-night treatments.

 

[Topo]

Remember that the plants will commence flowering and move through the bud stage just fine with less than 12 hours of light as well. If u veg inside then u can put them outside every morning and back inside every night. I guess what im saying is you don't HAVE to wait till the 17th to start putting them outside and budding them out.

That's another important point, thanks. It's the reduction of light that stimulates the bud cycle. Wow you guys, thanks for all the info and support

Well, this will surely be an experiment for me, and not my typical grow . I am stoked though that both of my Nirvana Bubble seeds cracked and are breaking surface, so I am off to a good start. Sorry if I forgot to mention that part. I mentioned March 17th because that's when natural day/night is right at 12/12 here.