Conservative Does No Mean Christian.

ChChoda

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rehnquist


Unfortunately, more than a century of decisions under this Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment have produced .... a syndrome wherein this Court seems to regard the Equal Protection Clause as a cat-o'-nine-tails to be kept in the judicial closet as a threat to legislatures which may, in the view of the judiciary, get out of hand and pass "arbitrary", "illogical", or "unreasonable" laws. Except in the area of the law in which the Framers obviously meant it to apply—classifications based on race or on national origin, the first cousin of race—the Court's decisions can fairly be described as an endless tinkering with legislative judgments, a series of conclusions unsupported by any central guiding principle.
Let a conservative reiterate...it's just one point of view, after all.
 

Johnnyorganic

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I'm not done.

Where do you get off calling me a statist?

Republicans happily tolerate statism hook, line, and sinker; far more than a Constitutionalist ever would.
 

ChChoda

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I'm not done.

Where do you get off calling me a statist?
That's my objective conclusion, John. You play both sides of the coin, and for what? Objectivity? Only one result can come from demotivating Republican voters. And as we witness that first hand, you persist in your chicanery.

Republicans happily tolerate statism hook, line, and sinker; far more than a Constitutionalist ever would.

My subjective conclusion is that you're an over educated middle aged lowly egoist.
 

jeffchr

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I too would like to show the religious right the door. Religion should never be brought into politics and I feel doing so undermines ones credibility. Intelligent people should be able to make their case logically. I have yet to see a particularly sound, non-religious argument in favor of making abortion illegal and I think this position is harmful to Conservatives. In most cases, I would argue that abortion is a stupid decision and that if women could see the issue with perfect clarity they would seldom choose it. However, there are cases in which it may be preferable to the alternative. Growing up just outside of Detroit I have seen things most can not even imagine and I can only believe that abortion is the better choice in some instances. Unpleasant as it may be, outlawing it is just too much of an intrusion into people's private lives and I have not heard a compelling argument to do so.

As far as neocons being hateful and all that other nonsense, that horse has been beat to death.
i'll be damned, common ground
congratulations to us
 

dukeofbaja

New Member
Abe23 said: "Liberty, individual responsibility, but don't grow pot or have abortions" is a tough message to sell.

Genius!

And Johnny don't mind ChChoda. He has been reading too much Ayn Rand lately and seems to be unable to think in non-Ayn Rand terms (as much as I disagree with some of the things you say too, he is clearly off the deep end)
 

Johnnyorganic

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That's my objective conclusion, John. You play both sides of the coin, and for what? Objectivity? Only one result can come from demotivating Republican voters. And as we witness that first hand, you persist in your chicanery.
It's the independent thought you despise. Much better than goose-stepping over the Constitution whenever one finds it convenient.

To put it in cannabis terms, you and most Republicans are political hermaphrodites. Starting out as one thing. Showing characteristics of the opposite, and ultimately being a sorry combination of both.

Meanwhile I am a hybrid, the best of all possible strains.
My subjective conclusion is that you're an over educated middle aged lowly egoist.
Over-educated. I disagree. Although educated, i believe one can never be over-educated.

Middle-aged is in the eye of the beholder.

Lowly is as lowly does.

Egoist. Guilty as charged. I believe the correct basis for morality is a healthy self-interest. Society would be in much better shape if more people followed this model.
Abe23 said: "Liberty, individual responsibility, but don't grow pot or have abortions" is a tough message to sell.

Genius!

And Johnny don't mind ChChoda. He has been reading too much Ayn Rand lately and seems to be unable to think in non-Ayn Rand terms (as much as I disagree with some of the things you say too, he is clearly off the deep end)
I must disgaree, Duke. ChChoad would not recognize Ayn Rand if she were to rise from the dead and spit in his eye.
 

dukeofbaja

New Member
Over educated. I disagree. Although educated, i believe one can never be over-educated.

I must disgaree, Duke. ChChoad would not recognize Ayn Rand if she were to rise from the dead and spit in his eye.
I must agree with your disagreement. Quoting Ayn Rand is one thing, understanding it is another
 

ChChoda

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Subjective is supporting the killing of some (convicts), but opposing the killing of others (the unborn). Or vice versa.

Objective is opposing all killing. Yet accepting both because they have been ruled Constitutional.
Objective is supporting the killing of some (convicted murderers), but opposing the killing of others (fetuses).

Subjective is opposing all killing.
 

Johnnyorganic

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Objective is supporting the killing of some (convicted murderers), but opposing the killing of others (fetuses).

Subjective is opposing all killing.
Okay, just for clarification....

From ChChoad's perspective, the inconsistent position is objective.

And the consistent position is subjective.

:clap:
 

ChChoda

Well-Known Member
Okay, just for clarification....

From ChChoad's perspective, the inconsistent position is objective.

And the consistent position is subjective.

:clap:
John, you dingle berry, a choad is a choda.

Your you're "insult" is redundant, and prosaic...:idea:

choad-def

Choad, also spelt chode, is a variant of the word choda (penis) which comes from the Hindi word (chodna). Chodna simply means to fuck. The word choad however is what is known as a neologism. This is a word that is newly acknowledged but has not been in circulation long enough or widely enough for its social status to be determined. As it stands, the word choad has three major definitions.

1) A short, fat penis that is wider than it is longer

2) The area between the scrotum/vagina anus.

3) A derogatory term used to insult somebody.

1) Ducas has a fat choad.

2) Last night your mom tongued my choad.

3) Quit being such a choad.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=choad
 

Johnnyorganic

Well-Known Member
John, you dingle berry, a choad is a choda.

Your you're "insult" is redundant, and prosaic...:idea:

choad-def

Choad, also spelt chode, is a variant of the word choda (penis) which comes from the Hindi word (chodna). Chodna simply means to fuck. The word choad however is what is known as a neologism. This is a word that is newly acknowledged but has not been in circulation long enough or widely enough for its social status to be determined. As it stands, the word choad has three major definitions.

1) A short, fat penis that is wider than it is longer

2) The area between the scrotum/vagina anus.

3) A derogatory term used to insult somebody.

1) Ducas has a fat choad.

2) Last night your mom tongued my choad.

3) Quit being such a choad.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=choad
My Momma would slap the ugly off of you.

You say 'tomato,' I say 'ChChoad.'
 

Rob Roy

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^^^^ Well, I nearly ch-choked on my coffee. You guys are funny, or maybe it's just the weed.
 
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