Flamestrains
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Beautiful ladys Raider! Great gow. I'm very anxious to see what you will do next round. Cant wait to see the bud porn. Would you mind explaining your drying and curing method?
2000w HPS Purple Kush Scrog Medical Grow#2
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#1Raiderfan420
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True, well we will see. I heard today from a freind that owns a grow shop that MH in the beginning of bloom will shorten the stretch, so I don't know if that is a good thing or not.NeL grows with his hps from seed to finish but idk if someone can really claim "bigger buds" if they didnt do a side by side comparison with a mh and a hps ya know? but we do all know that the different specs of grow lights are for trying to replicate the different specs of the sun, so I dont see why a mh or any blue spec wouldnt help during the beginning of bloom. will be interesting to see your results tho
Thanks man! Last round I left everything I could on the stems and hung them unntil they sanpped then transferred to jars and burped for a few days. This time I took everything off of the stems while trimming and used a hanging drying rack. I actually just took all the small stuff out of the racks and transferred to jars because they were crispy. They seem to dry a lot faster this time. It could be because I have the drying room set at 70 deg and last time was 65. Last round they moistened up after being in jars for a a couple days, so I want to make sure they are crispy this time. 4 day does seem quick tho, I might drop the temps down a bit next round while drying.
So as you can see I am still experimenting.
The curing in jars is important though to get the best out of them.
BluffinCali
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Damn good grow raider, my drying room is kept at 62-65deg, 40-50% RH with 3 oscillating fans providing indirect airmovement which is key when dealing with the elevated humidity, my perfect dry would take 10-12 days, but usually ends up being about 7-8days, but slower the better thats for sure. On another note you got me thinking about the clones of the black strain, any info on what collective he supplied or got anymore, was reading up on it and it has me very intrigued. My purple is looking good these days, not quite as nice an uniform as yours but I have some jack herer that you'll have to check out, its one of the best looking plants Ive grown indoors, although this is only my 3rd indoor grow, but I think Im gonna run my whole room with jack after this next cycle runs. Enough about my dreams, you did a hell of a job, Im truely jealous that a raiders fan can outgrow the purple on me, whats the world coming to these days....lol...keep up the good work my man, peace
BluffinCali
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About the lighting question from what I believe and understand its always better to have both going at all times purely to have a broader spectrum of colors. Now Ive always done the traditional MH veg then HPS for flower, so I cant back up my statement with proof, but common sense seems to make me think both simultaneously would be the best probably throughout the whole grow, but Im thinking of getting some t5 panels cause Ive heard some really good things about them for early veg and so on...I just got a co2 regulator and tank and as soon as I figure it all out I cant wait to see the difference. Have a good night, talk with ya later
#1Raiderfan420
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I had my room at 65 last round and thought I would bump it up a bit this time, but the little nugs I took off the racks earlier and put in jars is starteing to moisten back up so I will probably throw them back on the racks. It is amazing how dry they feel and then in jars for few hours and you get an idea how dry they really are.
As for The Black clones, my buddy just picked up 6 of them so I will know more about the strain in a few months. I believe they supple Harborside, but moslty private clubs. They now have a mother of my pk and will have the two bagseeds I am growing as well..
I ran a couple dual 4' t-9's in my room the first round and didn't notice any difference without them this time, but I have thought about putting some t-5's in my room too..maybe on the sides. Sounds like you are getting you shit dialed now..very nice.
BluffinCali
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The one great thing Ive learned over the years from outside growing with some family members is "growing is a science, curing is an art" and even after watching my uncle and old man when I was younger it still took me awhile to perfect my curing skills (not to say their perfect) but Im decent about bringing the full life to fruition. Do you get to grow outdoors where you are? I sure hope so, I mean I love indoor but nothing beats growing monsters out in the sun. Just a thought if you do take your bud out from the jars you could put them in paper bags rolled up and they will pull the moisture from the center of the buds a little better than all natural hang. Some people dont like the paper bag deal, I personally dont mind it, depends on how much drying is left. Anyways this blue dream creeped up on me and now Im aimlessly rambling, doubt you need any curing tips...lol...take care dude, peace
BluffinCali
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Hey man thanks for the rep, the damn thing wont let me rep you before I spread it out or something, I just gave like 10ppl rep and it still wont let me, I'll get ya back though, keep growin that fire my man...
SourTurboDiesel420
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nice buds man
wonderblunder
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Hey Raider. Stoked about your final weight. Im stoked about running 2k hps. Hope my "PK" turns out similar.......
jigfresh
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Hey Raider... haven't been here in a while. I apoligize if I am repeating anything, but I have experience with MH and HPS during various stages.
I totally agree that MH will reduce stretch during first part of 12/12. I like switching when the stretch stops to HPS. Also during flowering, MH (by my experience) does produce more resin, and better tasting buds. But there is for sure a bid yield difference.
Personally I don't think I will be running MH with the HPS during flower anymore. I think it's more worth it to have just HPS and get more weight. It ain't like we are growing junk weed under only HPS, you know what I mean.
Congrats on the harvest.
Oh... and some people like to hate on people making growing complicated. That makes me laugh. I'm not saying you can't grow amazing buds simply. I'm just saying that biology is complex, and anyone who thinks it's not is funny in my eyes.
I think everyone shoud grow how they like, and not get laughed at by people who think they are all knowing.
I totally agree that MH will reduce stretch during first part of 12/12. I like switching when the stretch stops to HPS. Also during flowering, MH (by my experience) does produce more resin, and better tasting buds. But there is for sure a bid yield difference.
Personally I don't think I will be running MH with the HPS during flower anymore. I think it's more worth it to have just HPS and get more weight. It ain't like we are growing junk weed under only HPS, you know what I mean.
Congrats on the harvest.
Oh... and some people like to hate on people making growing complicated. That makes me laugh. I'm not saying you can't grow amazing buds simply. I'm just saying that biology is complex, and anyone who thinks it's not is funny in my eyes.
I think everyone shoud grow how they like, and not get laughed at by people who think they are all knowing.
notoriousb
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would you say there's a difference in yield when you use the mh during the stretch then switch to hps compared to using hps all through bloom? hard to determine if keeping the stretch down with a mh or forcing the stretch with a hps would help increase yieldHey Raider... haven't been here in a while. I apoligize if I am repeating anything, but I have experience with MH and HPS during various stages.
I totally agree that MH will reduce stretch during first part of 12/12. I like switching when the stretch stops to HPS. Also during flowering, MH (by my experience) does produce more resin, and better tasting buds. But there is for sure a bid yield difference.
Personally I don't think I will be running MH with the HPS during flower anymore. I think it's more worth it to have just HPS and get more weight. It ain't like we are growing junk weed under only HPS, you know what I mean.
Congrats on the harvest.
Oh... and some people like to hate on people making growing complicated. That makes me laugh. I'm not saying you can't grow amazing buds simply. I'm just saying that biology is complex, and anyone who thinks it's not is funny in my eyes.
I think everyone shoud grow how they like, and not get laughed at by people who think they are all knowing.
I like that last bit from your last post too
jigfresh
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Based on nothing (I haven't run it both ways to compare) I think that using the MH during the beginning of 12/12 does NOT affect yeild. I beleive the HPS get's the flowers fat... once there are flowers.would you say there's a difference in yield when you use the mh during the stretch then switch to hps compared to using hps all through bloom? hard to determine if keeping the stretch down with a mh or forcing the stretch with a hps would help increase yield
I like that last bit from your last post too
But yeah... that's just my thoughts.
I can smell that dank down here Raider.... it's starting to smell good.
#1Raiderfan420
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I just threw them back in the racks for another day. I have to say every thing is way dryer than last time I moved to the jars..I guess the combination of raising the temps to 70 and taking everything off the stems sped up the drying faster than I wanted..5 days and they are cripsy crispy. I actually got quite a bit less wieght per jar this time.
I know man, that rep thing is crazy I have given enough rep that I got blocked for 24 hours two days in a row and still couldn't give it back to someone I had recently gave it too.
Yeah, I have heard if you add MH you get more trichs.
Thanks
I got it tonight
Good to see you Brother!! Thanks for info, if a couple of experienced people have said a MH will shorten the stretch than there must be something to it. lolHey Raider... haven't been here in a while. I apoligize if I am repeating anything, but I have experience with MH and HPS during various stages.
I totally agree that MH will reduce stretch during first part of 12/12. I like switching when the stretch stops to HPS. Also during flowering, MH (by my experience) does produce more resin, and better tasting buds. But there is for sure a bid yield difference.
Personally I don't think I will be running MH with the HPS during flower anymore. I think it's more worth it to have just HPS and get more weight. It ain't like we are growing junk weed under only HPS, you know what I mean.
Congrats on the harvest.
Oh... and some people like to hate on people making growing complicated. That makes me laugh. I'm not saying you can't grow amazing buds simply. I'm just saying that biology is complex, and anyone who thinks it's not is funny in my eyes.
I think everyone shoud grow how they like, and not get laughed at by people who think they are all knowing.
I hear ya on theother stuff too.
#1Raiderfan420
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Let me start by saying I am a bit dissapointed with my weigh -in. I averaged a little over 2 oz per puple kush for a total of 1lb 7 & 1/2 oz of pk, I had exactly 4 oz on the MBS1 and 4 oz 4 grams from the MBS2.
I am confused a bit on the weight beacuse the buds were bigger this round, but the buds seem a bit lighter..could be because of removing them from the stems or that I let them get too dry. I am happy with the bagseed though and am excted about the next round.
I sampled the MBS1 last night and it is a head knocker for sure. This is mostly indica and you can tell by the smoke. Although it isn't cured yet the inhale is smooth and clean..it instantly goes to your head.. with a sweet taste after exhale. Within mintutes it feels like your limbs are heavier and you want to lean you head back against something. It does pack a little bit of muchie attack too. It actually made me a little silly..where I actually felt like laughing out loud while I am by myself just from the thought of something funny. My wife even slept walk a little on it and she never sleep walks..she said she woke up in the kitchen.LOL
I plan on putting some of the MBS2 in the bubbler in a minute so I will post a smoke report. I am just getting over the pk bowl from a couple hours ago.
I am confused a bit on the weight beacuse the buds were bigger this round, but the buds seem a bit lighter..could be because of removing them from the stems or that I let them get too dry. I am happy with the bagseed though and am excted about the next round.
I sampled the MBS1 last night and it is a head knocker for sure. This is mostly indica and you can tell by the smoke. Although it isn't cured yet the inhale is smooth and clean..it instantly goes to your head.. with a sweet taste after exhale. Within mintutes it feels like your limbs are heavier and you want to lean you head back against something. It does pack a little bit of muchie attack too. It actually made me a little silly..where I actually felt like laughing out loud while I am by myself just from the thought of something funny. My wife even slept walk a little on it and she never sleep walks..she said she woke up in the kitchen.LOL
I plan on putting some of the MBS2 in the bubbler in a minute so I will post a smoke report. I am just getting over the pk bowl from a couple hours ago.
#1Raiderfan420
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Here is a couple bud shots. The MBS1 is one of the bigger buds, the other two are just random buds I just pulled out.
Purple Kush
MBS1
MBS2
Purple Kush
MBS1
MBS2
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BongFiend420
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Cross pollinating the Purple Kush with that MSB2 would be amazing.LOL thanks bro! I picked thisclone only stain up at Green leaf in Clear Lake. I have thought about getting into the cross pollinating, but haven't done anything yet. I wouldn't mind finding a few seeds in this run though
Ready2Inhale
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what he^^^ said