Cloning in Jiffy peat cubes

[SmokeyTheBear420]

Sorry for another post. I know it's suggested to clone in rockwool, but do peat pellets work ok? I plan on cutting with a clean exacto knife at 45 degree angle, putting into H20 right way (may put a little liquid rooting hormone into water), dip in liquid RH, dip in powder rooting hormone, put a little liquid RH in the hole of the jiffy peat pellet, cover in tent, and mist several times daily. Will this work??????

My strain is big bud and last time i tried cloning, none rooted. I was pissed. So I want to do what ever I can to make sure I have a good success rate. Thanks again all for your help. Much appreciated.

 

[muyoso]

Way too much rooting hormone. Just dip it into the powder hormone and be done with it. It works wonders. Also, I have found no need to put the clones into water to stop air bubbles either. 100% success rate not doing that. These plants are impossible to kill, and they are amazingly hardy.

 

[SmokeyTheBear420]

yea that's what I was thinking too. I just took the clones. I probably fucked it up but what ever. I cut'em, put'em in water for a minute, dipped in rooting hormone (I only had rootone, and put in Jiffy cubes. I had some B1 Rooting shit and put a little in the jiffy pellets. Made a makeshift tent. We'll see what happens.

I heard Big Bud was tough to clone?

 

[muyoso]

Not sure about big bud, but bagseed is almost impossible to kill. I took a clone and left it in a glass of water for 5 days, and then decided to stick it in rockwool. It rooted.

 

[spidermitebreeder]

i can kill em' but had spidermite infestation!

 

[palebock]

I also had trouble with spider mites. This time, I put up a No Pest Strip and sprayed my plants occasionally with a Neem Oil + Dish Soap + Water mixture. I'm about a week into flowering with no signs of spider mites. So far, so good.

i can kill em' but had spidermite infestation!

 

[DobermanGuy]

how bout the original question, anything negative been experienced when cloning in a Jiffy cube setup? Has anyone done this?

 

[Maj. Problem]

I used them for a few years for various plants with no adverse affects. Now I just use a 70/30 combination of bagged peat and FF Happy Frog in 35mm film containers.

 

[mr.smileyface]

how bout the original question, anything negative been experienced when cloning in a Jiffy cube setup? Has anyone done this?

From my own experiance... cut clone and put in water right away. An embelsium will occur in the stem causing the plant to die. I put the cuttin in water and scrap skin off the bottom of the cutting. underwater. Dip in rootech gel. Prepare your peat puck previously. Make a hole larger than the stem. Or the gel will be scrapped off. Make the hole 3/4 of the pucks height. Place cutting in puck and pinch where the end of the stem is. The whole idea is not to get air in the stem. Make sure the medium is around the stem.
Next i cut the leaf tips to avoid them drying out. Give them a good spray and put the dome on. Spray them for three days and then stop. Next week.. Just spray the inside of the dome to avoid problems with damping off. You might have to give them a little water with peroxide..Very very dilute.One drop!!!
Open once or twice a day for air. Dont leave the dome off for longer than a minute.
ANd be Patient. Prepare your moms by misting and flushing. Never give clones fertilizer. Nitrogen impairs root grow. Even when moms are full of it. Hense flushing and spraying for a few days before you cut. Take all your cuttings at once and should be from moms 2 months or older. Get a heat mat for faster rooting. heat speeds up chemical activity.

 

[moodster]

when i was using jiffys they take way longer than 1 inch rockwool cubes m8 jiffys take longer to root but its up to you

 

[Maj. Problem]

when i was using jiffys they take way longer than 1 inch rockwool cubes m8 jiffys take longer to root but its up to you

Agreed. I forgot to mention this very important part.
Thanks moodster.

My cuttings root 3-5 days faster in my mix than in the Jiffy pucks under the very same conditions. I am not a big fan of rockwool but thats just because I prefer to avoid "grow shops". The reason I chose to avoid the Jiffy pots was because of the non-biodegradable plastic mesh that contains the peat. I reuse or compost my soil after every harvest and the plastic mesh is no longer something I want to contend with.

The bottom line is "Yes, they work fine but there are other options out there that may or may not fit your needs better."

mr.smileyface- I have a question out of simple curiosity based on this comment.

"The whole idea is not to get air in the stem"

I always thought that air delivery/oxygen to a healthy root structure was fundamental. What are your thoughts on this?

 

[IAm5toned]

i have left clones in a fridge, out of water, for 2 days. stuck em in the ole bubble cloner and the rooted in 6 days....

air embolism is a myth. the plabnt does not transpire fast enough to actually get an embolism to begin with. the only danger is the exposed portion of stem drying up and dying. if that happens, either make another cut farthewr up, or, take a new cutting. it isnt rocket science

 

[Mr.GreenJeans]

Jiffy's work just fine. There may be better ways of cloning, but I'm not in a hurry and I've always had VERY good success using the Jiffy plugs, just keep them moist (NOT wet!) and warm.

 

[Maj. Problem]

warm.

Heat is the part of the equation that eluded me my first year of cutting clones and it is the most imperative part really.
My first attempt at "cloning" or "cutting" was with a shot glass of tap water on a southern window sill and I didn't change the water until I had roots about 2 weeks later. That cutting later developed to a 5' tree/bush that was mangled by Hurricane Andrew in an August of many years ago.
As much as I appreciate the products currently available and ease of sharing grow knowledge openly via the inter webs I still hold a an appreciation for the simplicity and naivety that was once used to grow the herb. It makes me wonder where we will be in another 15-20 years and what will be thought of as passe or naive at that point.

Make do with what you have if you must but if efficiency is in your budget then get by with the most. Its an unfortunate current theme in society that applies to indoor growing.

 

[NLNo5]

Tell yourself your going to try to do it without spending much money. Se what you can do with the smallest budget. IMHO a sign of a good grower is thrift. I don't grow to sell, I don't grow for maximum plant yield, I do grow for quality. You will be amazed at how much quality you can get in a plant for how little money spent.

 

[sven deisel]

the jiffy disks work just fine as long as you are not going to be going hydro. what i do it take a tote that is a cloudy clear so i dont have to use cfl's and just clone in my veg room with the hid the cloudyness is enought to knock the light down to clonable use. then i take a sheet of styro and place a heat mat between the styro and the tote. as far as me i think the mat is a must. soak ur jiffy's in a 1/4 strength bloom nutes but i have cloned with just straight water no hormones at all and still worked great but i use the gell now get the rootek its nice wide mouth jar can skip your water and just straight into the gel. open tote as often as u can for fresh air mist twice a day. adjust spray bottle to a stream shoot each jiffy to keep moist every 2 days and u should be golden. if in hydro use rapid rooter plugs. and as far as rockwool goes i dont mess with it from what i have read it works as a building block type of grow which would be fine for a seed because it grows a taproot straight down but clones at least mine like to root outwards. but idk maybe some else who uses them can shed some more light on that maybe cut a hole in the bigger block for it to set down in or if only growing a small number of plants clone right into the bigger blocks

 

[Fisch]

Maj. Problem... Do you use this mix with Hydro setups if using 4" or 6" rockwool?

 

[thatboygood]

If you do use the jiffy pots, don't bury the pot directly in soil when its time to transplant. Cannabis roots have a hard time getting through the tough peat and they will become rootbound (this happend to me). If you get the peat pot moist, you can tear at the sides of it to help the roots escape when you transplant.