Help please!

[gumball]

whats the npk or is it a secondary nute furmula.. how she lookg today? ,y is so perky yelowing seemed to stop ater the n fertilizer so maybe it was that.hat are your thoughts on the P thing as of now?

the NPK is 3-5-7. it is called Espoma Flower Tone. I still think P has a little to do with it, but I agree with you as well that they were just plain 'ole HUNGRY for everything!! I did give her a small dose of fish emulsions last watering, which is 5-1-1. I will use straight water the next time or 2 on each. I got my tiger bloom last night, so I will be feeding that after 1 or 2 waters! cant wait to see the buds pack it on! your girls still looking good?

 

[dexter68]

The container your using imo is too small wich means nutrient buildup.From what my hickass understands is that when you have a nutrient buildup you shouldnt feed every watering , but every other. Ive got one under the same condition.Im not
an expert.but have seen this before.nutrient buildup.

 

[gumball]

i can see that, but I have also seen people grow in much smaller containers and feed as much or more. I really should not have used the pre-nuted soil, but i could not afford anything else. I have nuted what I will nute for now, and I will use plain water for a couple of feedings. before the last feeding, I was only using water and mild epsom for the previous 3-4 feedings.

i have thought of transplanting to the bigger foldger pot, i have several i get from work and they are almost a gallon. is it too late to transplant?

 

[max420thc]

garden lime is only like 3 bucks for a fifty pound bag at lowes.
alot of people swear by MG . the PH is to low from the start because of the nute salts in the dirt.
lime will not let your PH go above seven and has cal / mag in it your plant needs. alot of people have pretty good luck growing in 5 gallon buckets with MG.
it will run out of steam and light feedings will be required about half way through.

 

[kngofhearts2diefor]

i picked up this natural ph up from the hydro store. it says it sticks to medium unlike ph up.go figure because some people dont add lime to there soil(like me) because they grow outdoors and never have a problem.lime also doesnt overturn acidic soil over night and sometimes thats what people need.what would you recommend>

 

[gumball]

garden lime is only like 3 bucks for a fifty pound bag at lowes.
alot of people swear by MG . the PH is to low from the start because of the nute salts in the dirt.
lime will not let your PH go above seven and has cal / mag in it your plant needs. alot of people have pretty good luck growing in 5 gallon buckets with MG.
it will run out of steam and light feedings will be required about half way through.

So do I apply like a 1/4 cup to the top inch of soil and water it in? My ph is running between 6 and 7 now, will adding lime at this point throw things out of whack again?Thanks for your help Max!

 

[kngofhearts2diefor]

if your ph is between 6 and 7 then perfect if in soil.all you nutrients should be available make sure 1 isnt locking out the other or combination.if you worried maybe give a flush?i wouldnt add lime now if you in flower thats something you should of started with, as well as me.i think ive come to terms that is a magnesium thing. so i foliar fedd with some ebsom salt so hopefully things will get better.i dont know if im just having a lockout from adding too much calc mag..i really dont think it could be..think im just missing something.

 

[Cru3l]

Man I'm learning so much in this thread...

 

[gumball]

Man I'm learning so much in this thread...

I am glad you are able to take away some knowledge. I always say the easiest way to learn is from someone elses mistake!!

 

[max420thc]

So do I apply like a 1/4 cup to the top inch of soil and water it in? My ph is running between 6 and 7 now, will adding lime at this point throw things out of whack again?Thanks for your help Max!

no you will see the plants start to heal themselfs in just a couple of days..the damage that is there is already done for the most part. if will help you get some production off and you will start seeing green return to your plant.
dont be scared on the amount of lime you put in the soil it will not hurt your plants.
there is something they call fast acting garden lime they sell at lowes . ive never tried it but it would be worth trying.
mead some lime into the top layer of soil and pour water through the soil taking the lime into the soil so it can take effect .
if you run a co2 injector you will see any.
ANY deff. in your plant will show up like ten times worse.
remember garden lime 3 bucks for a 50 lb bag of it.your production will go up and so will the health of your plants. nice and green and healthy through bud.
it WONT let your soil go above a PH of 7.
my soil run off right now is around 6.5.
that is about ideal for dirt.
the marijuana uses alot of calcium and magnesium. both are in garden lime.
a product i recommend if you can find it at your local grow shop is a soil amendment made by happy from. its not their dirt.
it comes in a bale and looks kind of like saw dust.it has worm castings and bat guano and microrize in it . your production will go up using it for sure if you are growing in dirt.
if you go to organics and go to sub cools super soil thread you will learn the best soil mix you can make up . and he will teach you how to grow in the super soil .
the reciepe for the super soil. AND he has a strain growing guides for almost all of his strains so he will teach you how to grow them out for max production .
his guide is good for growing almost any strain better. check it out.

 

[gumball]

thanks everyone! I picked up a bag up lime today. it says it has good mag and cal content. i think i wooped the mag def, but by not adding extra calcium, i think i am running into a def with that. i sure am learning a lot with this grow.

 

[kngofhearts2diefor]

whoa 420 i didnt even read that. was that to help us both? right now im at a soil run off at 6.0 and im honestly thinking im just not giving enough food to be honest.the yellowing keeps coming up th eplant but slowly so today i picked up some sweet and upped the food levels.i was told that the fert im using is so mild i can just pretty much go bonkers and add 3 times the amount as long as im buffering the ph. and as for lime idk i think im okay at this grow doing the 6.0 it is alittle low but i cant keep adding all this stuff and then not say im having a prob.what do you think?

 

[kngofhearts2diefor]

gumball where your leaves doing this? i sometimes see a black necrotic spot on my lower leaf b4 it does something like this. but other then that does it look pretty healthy? how about yours give us an update!!!

 

[smokie927]

I would say a mg. deficiency,I wouldn't be worrying about the deficiency as much as the pot you have it in,I'd transplant her to a bigger pot so it doesn't fight for nutes and space,roots grow heavily in bud so if you feel up to it transplant her. Before you transplant her give a complete flush and put into some dry soil,water a few days later depending on grow conditions, then get a complete N-P-K budding solution to use and you'll be fine. Stay up Oregon,the chronic state.

 

[kngofhearts2diefor]

well here is the deal i started 12/12 in a small conainer and when it showed flowers 31 days from seed i transplanted to the gallon pot.roots just touch bottom of pot as of now i have no room for anything bigger just maybe wider. since im already halfway threw or more i dont want to try to shock her and make a herm dogg.thanks for the information.i deff upped on the food for sure

 

[gumball]

you just need to make sure you water them more. you cant let a plant dry as much, and as frequently in a smaller pot like you can in a larger pot. my leaves had something like that. I read that mag and cal have dependencies and i was only applying one, epsom salts for mag. so in turn my cal was drained from the plant. i got some yard lime and mixed in the soil of one, and I bioled some eggs and mixed in the other with some filtered down water from the boiling. they are both recovering. i think the lime worked best, and I am going to add it to the others soil as well. it has high cal and mag, so I will use low amounts. i will feed with the tiger bloom next watering as well, which will be tomorrow or sunday. i will put up some pics in my journal in my sig.

 

[kngofhearts2diefor]

sounds good, ive just been continually adding the calc mag so i think mine is just a npk issue w underfeeding cant wait to see yours. oh and if you didnt catch i got this stuff called "sweet" which is mag, sulpher as well as other enzymes so im excited to see what happens