I want to use molasses

[GoldenGanja13]

Edit: I use the whole line of fox farm nutrients (grow big, big bloom, tiger bloom + open sesame, beastie, and cha ching)

I was useing the same line up with a few extra's like Molases and Amino Aid, Extrme serene, Trinity.

Next season (4 weeks from now) I am going 100% organic. Been doing chems for 2 long and I really want to see how I fair with Organics.

 

[morrisgreenberg]

I am going to send you a link that might help you understand a bit more than I can explain.
But check this ~ My very first grow was 2 years ago. I was gettin a O per plant, had no Idea what I was doing. I started reading the Cannabis Bible (jorge Cervantes) that's where I read about all the benifits of molases, and I applyed it to my garden. I saw a major difference and never stoped useing it.
Look at the ingredients in your bloom boosters, they all have molases.
Anyways here is the link
http://boards.cannabis.com/organic-growing/81681-molasses-sweet-organic-goodness.html

the method to my madness about sweets is for the carbs, now when using traditional growing methods in hydro like letting a tree grow i never seen any difference, but in my operation where i "untraditionally" prune so much foliage off, all the potential energy the plant will be losing from the loss of not being able to convert co2 and light into carbs, this gets replenished via Botanicare's sweet and my plants never miss a beat, within 24hours of the trim i get a growth spurt of 2-4 inches, i top a plant out at about 12 inches and at 36inches i lollipop all side branching, leaving aprox 12 inches of each branch with foliage, this is MAJOR energy loss and unless you acknowledge that you have to replace that energy and energy making abilty you can wreck yourself. this is how i personally view using of sugar supps and by no means do i advocate this to anyone without proper understanding of a plants biology, sorry to dirty up the thread or go off point. its just that i read so many people have such high expectations for the use of molasses. so when i think sugars i think of it feeding benefical and microbial life in soil and as an energy booster for all phases of growth, not extra resin or dense nuggs. Golden i agree with you again, all top shelf nutes have atleast Raw cane sugar along with citric acid(my PBP contains these) cheers guys. i like to use cha ching for added resin, and i know it works wonders for me

 

[King'G']

Thanks for all the responses, +rep for those who said "don't use molasses with hydro" cause that means they actually read my first post... I'm currently using liquid kool bloom along with the rest of the GH nutes, guess thats enough!! thanks.

 

[morrisgreenberg]

yea man, the reason is that mollasses can get you root rot, like i said before the suagrs will feed benefical bacteria, also it will feed bad bacteria just aswell

 

[slomoking13]

Thanks for all the responses, +rep for those who said "don't use molasses with hydro" cause that means they actually read my first post... I'm currently using liquid kool bloom along with the rest of the GH nutes, guess thats enough!! thanks.

you can use additives that contain molasses like sweet and bud candy with hydro.... just molasses will gunk things up though.. even using it in soil, i found it was easiest to mix it in with a half gallon of hot water first so that it would thin out enough to be mixed in. Molasses is some messy stuff haha

 

[spagettiheady420]

dont use mollasses in hydro??? why not?? I use it all the time in hydro and my results are always possitively magnum beasts!! Whoever said you cant use it in hydro is wrong because its not the mollasses thats bad its how much and when you use it thats could be harmful but thats just like anything else. Too much flora nova at the wrong time could hurt things too does that make it bad?? didnt think so

 

[morrisgreenberg]

your just lucky i guess, because at 5-10ml per gallon your opening the door for a colony of pathogens to thrive... just making it more hospitable for them and if you didnt know it yet then now you will because in hydro the name of the game is keeping water a hostile place for pathogens, by using beneficals, enzymes or peroxide???didnt think so either

 

[GoldenGanja13]

I also use 1 tbl per gallon once a week in veg, for the microrganisms.

Molases is so high in Potasium that it works wonders in bloom.

 

[morrisgreenberg]

I also use 1 tbl per gallon once a week in veg, for the microrganisms.

Molases is so high in Potasium that it works wonders in bloom.

hey GG i think i have a tidbit that pertains to you and your use of mollasses in soil. i got this info from some PHD on another site so bare with me. mike from advanced nutrients wnt on video to debunk the usage of high phosphorous use in hydroponics. his lab tests showed that in hydroponics plants use much more nitrogen and potassium than phos, so you ask yourself why do i keep using products like beasties blooms (0-50-30) myself in hydro?heres the deal, when you have natural soil with all kinds of microbial activity, these microbial lifeforms are in direct competition with your plant for phosphorous(or potash) i forget, but in hydroponics where there isnt much if any microbial life to absorb this added P and or K you will end up locking out calcium(unless you inoculate your rootzone with beneficials) therefore using high P bloom boosters in hydro should be used carefully. personally i use Fox famrs powder bloom boosters at 1/4-1/2 strength. i gotta credit mike from AN with the lab info and the PH.D for the calcium lockout info, so soil the higher amount of P is good even if the plants dont use it. i was actually shocked to see all the products out there with excessive levels of phosphorous that plant do not even need

 

[GoldenGanja13]

+ reps Morrisgreenberg......