1st grow: Bagseed + WW, 2 plants LST CFL low watt

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HardCorps420 said:
ahh, gotchya. cool, well then im just gonna sit back and enjoy the grow ;)
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hope I won't disappoint :) thank you and everybody else for watching :)

tonight I'll do LST untie-retie and topping/fimming on the small one. will post pix tomorrow if not tonight :)
 
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Your Plants Look great!! I am trying to LST mine in my pc BoX..i hope they stay small and dont outgrow my pc case! i should have just made something bigger but stealth..but oh well next time..great job man!
 
bdcook89

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plants are lookin good man, i plan on startin my first grow this summer once the school semester is over
 
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kantrick said:
Your Plants Look great!! I am trying to LST mine in my pc BoX..i hope they stay small and dont outgrow my pc case! i should have just made something bigger but stealth..but oh well next time..great job man!
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thanx! :) you may have already come across this great thread about LST, but if not:
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/289968-show-me-what-u-got.html

bdcook89 said:
plants are lookin good man, i plan on startin my first grow this summer once the school semester is over
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thank you bro - got plenty of time to plan the best setup - good luck and let me know when you start :)

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UPDATE: meh not worth mentioning maybe but I'm trying to keep record of this CFL setup so...

- today I topped one WW and FIMmed the other (they're 17 days old) first time so I hope I did right; should see in a couple days.

- tied again the bagseed (52 days old, veg included) and it's getting more and more a triangle shape (I tried to make a circular LST and that's what happened) so not so comfortable for my lights setup.
 

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yes they are. they're basic low watt compact florescent lights (cfl's). I believe he said they were 25 watts.

trifase: i just noticed my grow will be very similar to yours so im learning a lot from this post. only difference is that i found a killer deal on cfls (.92 cents a piece for 23w 2700k and 14w 6500k) so i have 18 cfls lol.
 
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DAMN i wish i could find such prise man i wanna make a grow setup exactly like hes. looks cheap and okay working!
 
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HardCorps420 said:
yeeeep, all it takes is research around this site, and examining other peoples grows to get an idea.
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agree! :) and so glad you found my thread interesting: everything came from other threads here on RIU :) - I'll answer or do some pics of the setup if you need details.

@shibby2009: yes they're 25W (4 warm on top, 1 cold in the middle) plus one warm 18W.

This is because I read here that 23-27W CFLs are a good choice because:

1) they have the highest light/Watt ratio compared to smaller/bigger CFLs. (even if recently I came across very efficient "grow cfls" on ebay - 45, 65, 85 watts and up)

2) therefore you can have more light sources with the same watts compared to giant bulbs, which is good with CFLs since they have to be positioned close to the plants.

3) they're cheap, easily found in convenience stores

4) and the heat they put out is reasonable

Finally, I bought the tube-shaped ones (not spiral) because of better spread of light and made a mylar reflector upon them to save the waste of the 180° of bulb's light not facing the plants/pointing upwards.
 
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trifase said:
1) they have the highest light/Watt ratio compared to smaller/bigger CFLs. (even if recently I came across very efficient "grow cfls" on ebay - 45, 65, 85 watts and up)

2) therefore you can have more light sources with the same watts compared to giant bulbs, which is good with CFLs since they have to be positioned close to the plants.

3) they're cheap, easily found in convenience stores
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dead on, it is a bit surprising, but this watt range is the sweet spot for cfl's
the bigger ones don't give you better efficiency in light generation
i have found one exception, there is cfl from GE, maybe 35 watts, or something like that
it has a wicked lumen output, much higher than any other cfl specs i have seen
it also has a wicked price, which is where i lost interest(for the moment)
 
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cold are more blue color spectrum, usually called daylight
warm are more red color spectrum, nice for flower
 
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@shibby2009: growone perfectly summarized it :)
http://www.lightenergysource.com/images/LES - Kelvin Scale.jpg
every kind of bulb - not only cfls - emit light on a kelvin scale: for vegging you want BLUE (the higher the K° the better), for flowering you want RED (the lower the K° the better).

@growone: I agree with you on the efficiency of bulbs - 23W-26W are hard to beat - but on eb@y there's a ("cfl grow light", from UK) 45W with 3000 lumens, and a 65W with 4300 lumens that I'm very curious about... aside from the initial price you pay :( they look efficient Watt/lumen-wise to me :) and I wonder if they may have better foliage penetration compared to 23-26Ws...??
 

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shibby2009 said:
so now if i get like 3 blues 25w and 2 reds 25w would that work? i appreciate the answers cheers
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yes for a small grow, e.g. 1 or 2 plants close to each other;
and you may want to throw one or more reds when you start flowering, or change the red/blue ratio (3 reds - 2 blues, or 4-1 etc.)

consider that these bulbs we're talking about put out 1500 lumens each approx., and one plant needs 7000 lumens on average ;) (below 3000 it dies, 10000 and up it thrives - most say)

ps> if you find 23 or 26 watters they're obviously superok :)
 
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