Waiakeauka
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I am planning on using 10 gallon pots and found out that they have both deep or wide pots. Which type of pot would give me the greatest yield? The shallow but wide type or the narrow but long type?
Deep or Wide Pots?
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Hobbes
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The deeper pots will probably be better - there will be less evaporation of water from the smaller surface area of the deeper bucket - allowing for a larger root system in the more often moist soilless of the deeper bucket. Less work watering too.
Check to see that you'll have enough height with the taller/deeper buckets. How much taller are they than the wide buckets?
Stop the root circling with some type of root trapping or constriction: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/303229-diy-air-pruning-pot-experiment.html
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The deeper pots will probably be better - there will be less evaporation of water from the smaller surface area of the deeper bucket - allowing for a larger root system in the more often moist soilless of the deeper bucket. Less work watering too.
Check to see that you'll have enough height with the taller/deeper buckets. How much taller are they than the wide buckets?
Stop the root circling with some type of root trapping or constriction: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/303229-diy-air-pruning-pot-experiment.html
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researchkitty
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Deeper means water has to flow further down to hit the bottom roots. Wider means more root surface area growing down. Either way, it doesnt matter for shit. Just get whichever one works for you.
Me? Deeper. I can fit more pots next to each other under one light while they are young. If they are wider, I cant. But, vertical height for me isnt a problem even if a plant was 9' tall.
Me? Deeper. I can fit more pots next to each other under one light while they are young. If they are wider, I cant. But, vertical height for me isnt a problem even if a plant was 9' tall.
mygirls
Medical Marijuana (MOD)
both if you can. the wider the put the bushier your plant will be without toping or any thing. and the will grow taller in a deeper pot.. i use 19 gallon pots and 10 gallon pots indoors. they are about 2 ft width, and 2 1/2 to 3 ft deep. wally world has them.. very cheap.
mygirls
Medical Marijuana (MOD)
both... that be a 19 gallon pot.
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canadian
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I read in last month HighTimes that the wider the Pot/growing bag is the more you yield you can make. If the roots stretch out wider and make a bigger network of roots the branches will stretch out as far as the root network goes. In one example with help from FIMing a person was able to get 10 pounds from 12 plants using the wider/shallower growing medium. I read it in HighTimes so i believe it has atleast some truth to it, but I'm no expert :s
Waiakeauka
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I guess I will use the wider pots since the article in High Times said that you have better yields. Thanks for the information and help!
canadian
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Ya I suggest you should get this issue, I believe it's the latest one:
http://hightimes.com/video/ht_admin/6310
The issue has great techniques on increasing yeild like LSTing, FIMing, and scafolding.
Overall though, the pot size is all based on what type of plant you want. A tall one with one big main cola for deep pots and a short bushy Indica plant with many main colas.
Hobbes
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I'm doing an experiment with different types of buckets and liners for root: air pruning; constriction; and trapping. Two of the buckets I'm using have holes drilled in the sides for air pruning - the deeper into the bucket we go the more roots grow out of the holes. There will be less roots grown in a wider bucket of the same volume as a taller one. The wider bucket has a larger surface area and will dry quicker and require more frequent watering - but from evaporation of water only, not the plant absorbing the water AND nutrients.
The distance from the tap root to the bucket wall isn't as important as stopping root circling in whichever bucket you choose to use.
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2. I lined the bucket with fiberglass screen to keep the Pro Mix from falling out of the holes.
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I'm doing an experiment with different types of buckets and liners for root: air pruning; constriction; and trapping. Two of the buckets I'm using have holes drilled in the sides for air pruning - the deeper into the bucket we go the more roots grow out of the holes. There will be less roots grown in a wider bucket of the same volume as a taller one. The wider bucket has a larger surface area and will dry quicker and require more frequent watering - but from evaporation of water only, not the plant absorbing the water AND nutrients.
The distance from the tap root to the bucket wall isn't as important as stopping root circling in whichever bucket you choose to use.
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2. I lined the bucket with fiberglass screen to keep the Pro Mix from falling out of the holes.
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Hobbes
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"you should make a thread or grow journal about the results!"
Canadian that is such a great idea I shall travel back in time so I have some results to show you now!
I. AM. PIE MAN!
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https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/303229-diy-air-pruning-pot-experiment.html
Look up, click the link
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"GOOGLE: smart pots."
Unkie I've got a couple on the way, stuck in customs for the past week. Smart pot, a few different size fabric pots. I want to see how my DIY pots do compared to commercial.
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"you should make a thread or grow journal about the results!"
Canadian that is such a great idea I shall travel back in time so I have some results to show you now!
I. AM. PIE MAN!
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https://www.rollitup.org/grow-room-design-setup/303229-diy-air-pruning-pot-experiment.html
Look up, click the link
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"GOOGLE: smart pots."
Unkie I've got a couple on the way, stuck in customs for the past week. Smart pot, a few different size fabric pots. I want to see how my DIY pots do compared to commercial.
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Waiakeauka
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I am confused that High Times article says that wider is better and Hobbes experiment says the roots grow deeper. Could it be that the wide pots give better yields but not deep root development?
canadian
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Ya I'm not doubting Hightimes but deeper is probably better, but they are saying, if it's a shallow bed (they use grow bags) and wider, the roots will have no place to go except outwards. They also add (not sure if true or not) that the canopy/branch system is approx the same width as your root system (so deeper but skinner the pot, the taller/skinnier the plant, visa versa). I imagine this article has some truth to it, but like everything else, it contradicts other opinons and articles :s
Girls like it deep AND wide, but for plants deeper is better because the plant has a tap root that seeks out water. Since water is more plentiful the further down in the soil you go the tap root grows downward quite quickly. The bigger the root system, the bigger the plant.
Jack Harer
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I prefer wider pots, as I found that narrow pots will dry at the upper portion and remain wet towards the bottom. The only time I ever had root probs was in deep narrow pots. My rule of thumb on pots is no deeper than 1.5 x the width so the soil dries more uniformly.
