Soil Cloning

MagusALL

MagusALL

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Hey everyone. Just needed some input on a stage I will be entering into this week...cloning. I am using soil, a pro-mix/perlite blend with organic nutrients and bottled spring water. What is the best way to do a soil clone? I see rockwool used most often for cloning and am wondering can I put my clones into the soil instead? What extra steps would I need to do? How do I make sure they become rooted? What cloning solution should I use and do I need hormones at all, like the gel? Or should I use rockwool and then just place the rooted clones into the soil? Any experience with this is needed and appreciated greatly. Wogwon.
 
PlatinumKasse

PlatinumKasse

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1. do not place them in rockwool, then plant them in soil
2. flush your mother plant's medium with tons of clean water for a week, no nutrients in it, so that you get all of the nitrogen out of the plant.. nitrogen fucks roots' ability to grow
3. mist heavily during that week a couple times daily, washing away any nitrogen from the leaves/stems
4. when you take your cutting... cut at a 45 degree angle.
5. then take this cutting and place it underwater... make a secondary cut at the bottom (where the first cut was made, just cut off like half a centimeter off the base (bottom) of the stem, this will get the airbubble out so that capillary action isn't blocked)
6. place the cutting into a soilles mix with no nutrients.. like i said, nitrogen fucks the roots' ability to grow, so if u use anything with nutrients in it, you'll never see roots.
7. to accomplish a soilless mix, the mix of perlite with peat moss and vermiculite can be used... other suggestions are sand/peatmoss/perlite, NOTHING with nutritional value!
8. pack down around the stem, keep the medium moist, but not soaking at all times.. and NEVER touch them, leave them the fuck alone for 3 weeks.. don't give up, as long as they aren't dead.. they're fine... just make sure you don't do shit until you see new growth
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stinkincatfish

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im new to cloning myself but have just had 2 clones take root and looking great

i tried soil, rockwool, and strait water, and so far dirt is my only sucess.

i do use a cloning solution "root tech", its a gel.

ive taken ten clones over the course of a month, two have rooted so far.
rockwool didnt work for me( lost like 4).
im not sure about the water, they look healthy enough after 2 weeks.

3 weeks sounds like a standard rule, spray the leaves and wait 3 weeks regardless of your medium
 
MagusALL

MagusALL

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PlatinumKasse said:
1. do not place them in rockwool, then plant them in soil
2. flush your mother plant's medium with tons of clean water for a week, no nutrients in it, so that you get all of the nitrogen out of the plant.. nitrogen fucks roots' ability to grow
3. mist heavily during that week a couple times daily, washing away any nitrogen from the leaves/stems
4. when you take your cutting... cut at a 45 degree angle.
5. then take this cutting and place it underwater... make a secondary cut at the bottom (where the first cut was made, just cut off like half a centimeter off the base (bottom) of the stem, this will get the airbubble out so that capillary action isn't blocked)
6. place the cutting into a soilles mix with no nutrients.. like i said, nitrogen fucks the roots' ability to grow, so if u use anything with nutrients in it, you'll never see roots.
7. to accomplish a soilless mix, the mix of perlite with peat moss and vermiculite can be used... other suggestions are sand/peatmoss/perlite, NOTHING with nutritional value!
8. pack down around the stem, keep the medium moist, but not soaking at all times.. and NEVER touch them, leave them the fuck alone for 3 weeks.. don't give up, as long as they aren't dead.. they're fine... just make sure you don't do shit until you see new growth
9. hit us up then
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what about a cloning solution?
 
GrowItGreen

GrowItGreen

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I am new to cloning as well I have only done 10 to date but I am 10 for 10. I use jiffy pellets and pretty much start at step 4 of the the first guy
I am sort of over careful I guess here is what I use:
Sharp pruning shears
razor (utility knife)
Jiffy Pellets
Schultz: Take Root
latex gloves
+small aquarium
+soil mix
+plastic wrap
+tape

First I made a clone chamber kind of like the one on https://www.rollitup.org/view.php?pg=faq&cmd=article&id=192

-I take the small aquarium top, mine is the wire kind so I place plastic wrap across the top (leaving an inch gap length wise) and tap it down with 2" wide packing tape.
-Then I put my soil mix in the bottom of the aquarium about 2" deep. Wet the soil but not soak.
-Then I take my Jiffy Pellets and soak them
-Then I put some cloning powder on a plate
-Then I put on gloves, take my cutting cut at a 45 degree angle with my shears immediately put the cut end in the cloning powder then I take my utility knife and scrape about 3/4 of an inch of the bottom all the way around the cutting and put cloning powder on the scraped area
-Then I place the cutting into a jiffy pellet
-Then I place the Jiffy pellet in to the soil mix in the aquarium and mist the walls of the aquarium as needed (about twice a day so moisture is always on the walls)
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potpimp

potpimp

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I'm using rock wool; I'm gonna be really pissed if my 14 new blueberry clones (with buds!) die on me. I've got a few big bud in soil; only about half survived but these have new growth!! Where the heck is that energy coming from!!??!!
 
MagusALL

MagusALL

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ok, so do not use soil with nutrients because nitrogen slows root development but use rooting solution? doesnt this solution have nutrients in it though? what is the best rooting solution/gel to use for a soil clone?
 
GrowItGreen

GrowItGreen

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I think that most have the same active ingredient Indole-3 Butyric Acid so I would say the choice is yours and whether you like the gel or the powder. I have only used Schultz Take Root powder so I can't say what is the best but I can say it has the same active ingredient as the Advanced Nutrient Clone-it and it works good for me.
 
MagusALL

MagusALL

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GrowItGreen said:
I think that most have the same active ingredient Indole-3 Butyric Acid so I would say the choice is yours and whether you like the gel or the powder. I have only used Schultz Take Root powder so I can't say what is the best but I can say it has the same active ingredient as the Advanced Nutrient Clone-it and it works good for me.
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and you clone in soil as well?
 
GrowItGreen

GrowItGreen

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yeah both plain soil mix and jiffy pellets in soil...I like Jiffy pellets for cloning they hold moisture well and my veg room stays warm/hot so its good for me.
 
potpimp

potpimp

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I think the Advanced Nutrients has Indole-4 Butyric Acid. :p :p I want to try the jiffy pots; I've got about a hundred of them.
 
StellaBlue

StellaBlue

Active Member
I'm confusted..? can you go from rockwool to soil with nutrients cause they would already have started rooting.

?
 
GrowItGreen

GrowItGreen

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Advanced nutrient clone it has Indole-3 Butyric Acid I checked before I wrote it the first time. Yeah I like Jiffy Pellets a lot for clones but I'm on the fence for use with seeds, it seems to be a fine line of to wet, to dry and just right but maybe I just did something stupid I'm not sure but with seeds I'm only 3 for 5, clones 10 for 10.

Also I have seen a video or read somewhere that you can put rockwool in soil but I have never done it so I don't know how successful it is.
 
MagusALL

MagusALL

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ok i got myself some schultz stuff too. all the same ingredients and Im not sponsored by any one company so Ill use whatever is good and also cheap.
 
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