420ezah420
Active Member
I HAVE READ MORE BOOKS THAN YOU CAN CONTEMPLATE YOUNG MAN.
THEORY THEORY THEORY THEORY, Go and look up the definition.
I HAVE READ MORE BOOKS THAN YOU CAN CONTEMPLATE YOUNG MAN.
THEORY THEORY THEORY THEORY, Go and look up the definition.
CrackerJax
New Member
I already know what it is....as I just told you above. Ur a bit thick.
Since YOUR version of the world can't pass ANY scientific analysis.... why do you even bother?
Ur version is a fail before it ever gets out of the box.
Evolution has NO EQUAL....so it rules the roost ... of intelligent ppl.
You are of course, OBVIOUSLY.... excluded.
Since YOUR version of the world can't pass ANY scientific analysis.... why do you even bother?
Ur version is a fail before it ever gets out of the box.
Evolution has NO EQUAL....so it rules the roost ... of intelligent ppl.
You are of course, OBVIOUSLY.... excluded.
420ezah420
Active Member
Yeah your so intelligent you cant even agree with your fellow athiests.This shows just how confused & thick skulled you really are.
420ezah420
Active Member
You wont shutup about how intelligent you are yet you have not presented me with one fact...............other than the THEORY of the big bang.
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
Asking for a half-human, half-ape is like asking for a cross between a dog and a poodle; asking for the location halfway between San Francisco and California.
Asking why a dog doesn't become a bird is tantamount to admitting you know absolutely nothing about how evolution works.
CrackerJax
New Member
YOU have ZERO facts.... I have the accepted intelligent version.
You have ZERO.
That's a fail.
You have ZERO.
That's a fail.
trichlone fiend
New Member
...prove me wrong...and prove your god if you would, and I'll rest my case....we all know that isn't going to happen...right?
...but, we can prove mitosis!
...you don't understand what a theory is ... you can misenterpret it easily. Just as your bible, you can twist it all you'd like... theories are based on facts.
...call NASA, tell them they don't know shit, tell'em their waste'n their time. See how many laughs you get there.
...call the medical industries also, let them know they are waste'n their time thinking we can get organs from pigs.
Man o' the green
Active Member
Facts -> Theory / Math -> Truth <- Belief <- Faith
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<- Philosophy ->
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<- Philosophy ->
Let me propose a "theory" :
FACT is a piece of knowledge that is not in dispute and comes directly from a measurable source. There is a fossil that looks like a person but is not. There are fossils that have a progressive pattern of change.
THEORY is a description that correlates FACTs and explains a process by logical steps. Evolution
TRUTH is what most people recognize as an undisputed. The earth is round.
FAITH comes to TRUTH from the opposite direction, based not on facts, but on BELIEFs. God created the world, etc.
BELIEF is a piece of knowledge that is equivalent to FACT but unmeasurable. Mary was a virgin.
PHILOSOPHY is the same as THEORY or BELIEF but based on FACTs and FAITH ( assumptions ). Be excellent to each other.
Your reality is the sum of the truth
Your reality can be what you want it to be : A combination of theory, philosophy and belief.
CrackerJax
New Member
420haze is the kind of poster that makes other religious folks .... cringe. It's like...ur not helping at all.
420ezah420
Active Member
Oh shit he didnt know that poodles are dogs.
Man where do I start.... Im not even going to say anything because I have read EVERYTHING that you have. Take that number and multiply it by 10 and just maybe you might open your mind and quit being a narrow minded fool420ezah420
Active Member
You're a fail, you ran to google & looked up scientific pictures for an avatar.........By the way your vanity is showing.
Man o' the green
Active Member
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen (Ephesians 4:29).Oh shit he didnt know that poodles are dogs.
420ezah420
Active Member
I have nothing to prove to anyone if you think that you are confused....prove me wrong...and prove your god if you would, and I'll rest my case....we all know that isn't going to happen...right?
...but, we can prove mitosis!
...you don't understand what a theory is ... you can misenterpret it easily. Just as your bible, you can twist it all you'd like... theories are based on facts.
...call NASA, tell them they don't know shit, tell'em their waste'n their time. See how many laughs you get there.
...call the medical industries also, let them know they are waste'n their time thinking we can get organs from pigs.
Yeah you can also prove that theories are just educated guesses.
Do you know the definition of THEORY? Please go look it up.
What does NASA have to laugh about? They have done nothing to help out humanity, other than for entertainment & informative purposes.
Oh you mean the industries that want to pump me full of oxycontin? For something as mild as RLS?
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
Uh, are you really this stupid that we have to explain even the analogies?Oh shit he didnt know that poodles are dogs.
Poodles ARE dogs just like humans ARE apes.
420ezah420
Active Member
trichlone fiend
New Member
Wrong! ...a Hypothesis is just an educated guess. A theory is an educated guess that YOU can't prove wrong.
...and your not the only one!....even the smartest people of the world who has dedicated their whole life trying can't prove it wrong. ...what alot of people don't understand is that most people who are atheist are former believers, as myself. I read the bible, went to cathloic schools growing up, even went to a southern baptist college and was required to take Bible (OT)# 201, and Bible (NT) # 210...I got a's in both, fyi.
...and as posted :
To state clearly that evolution is a fact, not theory, and that what is at issue within biology are questions of details of the process and the relative importance of different mechanisms of evolution. It is a fact that the earth with liquid water, is more than 3.6 billion years old. It is a fact that cellular life has been around for at least half of that period and that organized multicellular life is at least 800 million years old. It is a fact that major life forms now on earth were not at all represented in the past. There were no birds or mammals 250 million years ago. It is a fact that major life forms of the past are no longer living. There used to be dinosaurs and Pithecanthropus, and there are none now. It is a fact that all living forms come from previous living forms. Therefore, all present forms of life arose from ancestral forms that were different. Birds arose from nonbirds and humans from nonhumans. No person who pretends to any understanding of the natural world can deny these facts any more than she or he can deny that the earth is round, rotates on its axis, and revolves around the sun.
Since Darwin's time, massive additional evidence has accumulated supporting the fact of evolution--that all living organisms present on earth today have arisen from earlier forms in the course of earth's long history. Indeed, all of modern biology is an affirmation of this relatedness of the many species of living things and of their gradual divergence from one another over the course of time. Since the publication of The Origin of Species, the important question, scientifically speaking, about evolution has not been whether it has taken place. That is no longer an issue among the vast majority of modern biologists. Today, the central and still fascinating questions for biologists concern the mechanisms by which evolution occurs.
In the American vernacular, "theory" often means "imperfect fact"--part of a hierarchy of confidence running downhill from fact to theory to hypothesis to guess. Thus the power of the creationist argument: evolution is "only" a theory and intense debate now rages about many aspects of the theory. If evolution is worse than a fact, and scientists can't even make up their minds about the theory, then what confidence can we have in it?
Well evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape-like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered.
Moreover, "fact" doesn't mean "absolute certainty"; there ain't no such animal in an exciting and complex world. The final proofs of logic and mathematics flow deductively from stated premises and achieve certainty only because they are not about the empirical world. Evolutionists make no claim for perpetual truth, though creationists often do (and then attack us falsely for a style of argument that they themselves favor). In science "fact" can only mean "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional consent." I suppose that apples might start to rise tomorrow, but the possibility does not merit equal time in physics classrooms.
Evolutionists have been very clear about this distinction of fact and theory from the very beginning, if only because we have always acknowledged how far we are from completely understanding the mechanisms (theory) by which evolution (fact) occurred. Darwin continually emphasized the difference between his two great and separate accomplishments: establishing the fact of evolution, and proposing a theory--natural selection--to explain the mechanism of evolution.
The honest scientist, like the philosopher, will tell you that nothing whatever can be or has been proved with fully 100% certainty, not even that you or I exist, nor anyone except himself, since he might be dreaming the whole thing. Thus there is no sharp line between speculation, hypothesis, theory, principle, and fact, but only a difference along a sliding scale, in the degree of probability of the idea. When we say a thing is a fact, then, we only mean that its probability is an extremely high one: so high that we are not bothered by doubt about it and are ready to act accordingly. Now in this use of the term fact, the only proper one, evolution is a fact. For the evidence in favor of it is as voluminous, diverse, and convincing as in the case of any other well established fact of science concerning the existence of things that cannot be directly seen, such as atoms, neutrons, or solar gravitation ....
So enormous, ramifying, and consistent has the evidence for evolution become that if anyone could now disprove it, I should have my conception of the orderliness of the universe so shaken as to lead me to doubt even my own existence. If you like, then, I will grant you that in an absolute sense evolution is not a fact, or rather, that it is no more a fact than that you are hearing or reading these words.
...what exactly do you think NASA is upto by building rockets trying to find other planets that have h20 on them?
Hayduke
Well-Known Member
You guys must be getting close to collecting social security then...I am 39 and have called weed many things...I only hear cops (since the 70's at least) refer to reefer as "dope" it has about the most negative connotation of all of the slang terms for Cannabis...and I thought we all loved the herb here...just sounded weird...sorry pops...no disrespect intendedkiss-ass
mindphuk
Well-Known Member
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you deny we are apes? Do you even know what an ape is and why we are classified as one?
Maybe you need to re-read dobermanman's post
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Primates are collectively defined as any gill-less, organic RNA/DNA protein-based, metabolic, metazoic, nucleic, diploid, bilaterally-symmetrical, endothermic, digestive, tryploblast, opisthokont, deuterostome coelemate with a spinal chord and 12 cranial nerves connecting to a limbic system in an enlarged cerebrial cortex with a reduced olfactory region inside a jawed-skull with specialized teeth including canines and premolars, forward-oriented fully-enclosed optical orbits, and a single temporal fenestra, -attached to a vertebrate hind-leg dominant tetrapoidal skeleton with a sacral pelvis, clavical, and wrist & ankle bones; and having lungs, tear ducts, body-wide hair follicles, lactal mammaries, opposable thumbs, and keratinized dermis with chitinous nails on all five digits on all four extremities, in addition to an embryonic development in amniotic fluid, leading to a placental birth and highly social lifestyle.
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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]We dont believe this because we want to! And why would we want to? We believe it because we can prove it really is true, and that applies to everyone whether you want to believe it or not. Were not just saying youve descended from primates either; were saying you ARE a primate! Humans have been classified as primates since the 1700s when a Christian creationist scientist figured out what a primate was and prompted other scientists to figure out why that applied to us. [/FONT]
Padawanbater2
Well-Known Member
lol
You win with this post man. I'm dying to see what he's gonna come back with.
Don't just come back with some bullshit that doesn't relate at all to this post. Answer the questions he raised.
Prove you're not a troll.
That would do it.
trystick
Active Member
It might be that the fact-theory thing has been well argued here. And its ok for people to have varied notions on that topic cuz Atheism itself is non-judgmental. Its really the opposite of dogma and fundamentalism.Wrong! ...a Hypothesis is just an educated guess. A theory is an educated guess that YOU can't prove wrong.
...what alot of people don't understand is that most people who are atheist are former believers, as myself. I read the bible, went to cathloic schools growing up, even went to a southern baptist college and was required to take Bible (OT)# 201, and Bible (NT) # 210...I got a's in both, fyi.
I got no problem with people developing an argument. But then, if that argument is taken to the 10th degree repeatedly, its no longer an argument, its a theology itself. So anyone coming to this thread hoping for relief from the pulpit will just get hit from the other side.