Obama orders hospital visitation rights for gays, lesbians
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abe23
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I went to one this past week....as a spectator. I was handed pamphlets about why unisex bathrooms are really a plot by transexuals to try to rape you in the bathroom (I'm exaggerating but it was close...) and about how people do not have a right to healthcare, food or haircuts (bizarre...) along with the usual stuff about not wanting to pay taxes and all the rest. I also saw lots of people with signs about stuff related to 'illegals' and abortion...
And I'm not even talking about the larouche crazies or the ones who were clearly only there to agitate and provoke. I know that it's mostly about taxes, but I really do get the impression that a lot of the folks at that rally were among the 20% of people who still self-identify as republicans and don't care much for gays, immigrants or abortion rights. I also listen to AM radio when I'm in the car from time to time and if the idiots that call in are any indication, there's little difference between your average tea partier and your run of the mill republican voter. I would say maybe a quarter of the tea party is made up of the ron paul crowd. The "conservative/libertarian" are basically big government conservatives when the republicans are in power and libertarians when it's the democrats. Convenient....but still hypocritical as fuck.
ink the world
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Rick that applies only to PUBLIC hospitals, private hospitals are free to keep policy as they like.
I dont think the federal government is overstepping here. If they made private hospitals comply you would have a point.
Dragline
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RickWhite
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My understanding is that it is any hospital that accepts Medicaid which is all of them.
That is the worst part. One of the things we hear about from people strongly opposed to Obama care is that the government is taking over huge segments of the private financial sector which is the first step in building a dictatorship. Now that Obama has greatly increased the blanket of Medicaid to include a massive number of people, he is throwing his weight around already just like we were warned against.
Like I said, the actual issue is really a non-issue. There are many ways to determine next of kin.
The big issue is that we are seeing our government seize control and extend their power in dangerous ways. Who ever thought a sitting President would demand the firing of a CEO of a major private corporation. Dictators do this type of thing - not elected Presidents.
abe23
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I always thought locking people up indefinitely without charges and torturing them would be the first step towards a dictatorship. Never thought it would come as a publicly financed rescue of the financial sector or rules mandating hospitals to treat people fairly....good thing you're here to educate us, rick. You're so smart...
dukeofbaja
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Yet he has no idea how much my seedlings will yield. Sunuvabitch
RickWhite
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LOL! Is that a joke?
Way to completely change the subject when it shows "your side" in a bad lite. Toe that party line!
Weak response too. Only a complete ignoramus thinks enemy combatants caught in battle should be entitled to constitutional rights. Yep, let's give them lawyers so that all of our top military secrets become public record - brilliant. Let's give them all trials at the expense of the tax payer. Maybe we should also make sure there is an adequate number of Muslim jurors and provide the same lawyers that got OJ Simpson off.
Yep, that approach will have our enemies shaking in their boots. Let's make our military the laughing stalk of the world - great idea.
medicineman
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Are you fucking serious, outside agitators, Yeah buddy, thats the spin alright. You right wingers have a serious problem with reality.
doc111
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Come on med, you should know that any type of rally or demonstration always attracts people whose intent is less than honorable. You should also know that some people will go to these things in an attempt to discredit the cause. And yes medman, some people are ignorant and can't spell so well. Doesn't matter what side you are on you will always have a few who make the cause look ridiculous. That doesn't mean that everybody or even most of the people are ignorant, homophobic, hate mongers. Could you for once try to be objective instead of just trying to ruffle feathers?
Keenly2
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provocateurs exist, and are extremely common at any protest with any meaning behind it..
medicineman
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I can see you're very disgrunteled with this government. Maybe a good choice for you would be to pick up stakes and move to a country where business owners, (Like yourself) would have even more support from the government and where there would be no rules or laws regarding employees. Then you could pay say, 25 cents an hour, and have straw bosses with whips to oversee your factory floor. Just think, no FICA, no quarterly tax impounds, free and easy. Adios motherfucker.
Johnnyorganic
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Welcome back, Meddie.
There is an outside agitator website devoted to the Teabaggers that incited people to do just what I said. But the assclown who founded it was doing his political activity on school district computers while he was on the clock as a government school teacher. Oops.
Now he's on administrative leave and his website is reduced to selling t-shirts.
You were saying something about reality, talking walrus?
abe23
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I didn't hear about that guy, but the whole thing about the 'agitators' was totally blown out of proportion by fox and talk radio.
When I went there were a couple of them but they were being funny and very obvious with signs like 'obama is an alien' or 'gay logger republicans against taxes'...
When I went there were a couple of them but they were being funny and very obvious with signs like 'obama is an alien' or 'gay logger republicans against taxes'...
doc111
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lmfao!!! That's classic!
dukeofbaja
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Studies by researchers at Pepperdine show gay logger republicans against taxes to be the third fastest growing segment of the general populace, right behind hairstylist bikers for peace, and of course shape-shifting reptilian humanoids.
Johnnyorganic
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I suppose you can blame me for that.
Abe asked if the move would be controversial.
I suggested that nobody would care that Bruce visits Lance in the hospital because the Teabaggers forced those on the Right to realize that there are far more crucial issues to address right now.
Then Medicineman's Depends got into a knot because apparently he has never heard of Saul Alinsky.
The End.