LED Question

[Megalith]

Hi guys,
I have been doing some experimenting with lights. I have been trying to find information on whether using different lights with LED's is beneficial or harmful? Does the white light from floro's diminish the reds and oranges of LED's? Or, does the added wattage benefit the grow? Any info would be great.

 

[riddleme]

Hi guys,
I have been doing some experimenting with lights. I have been trying to find information on whether using different lights with LED's is beneficial or harmful? Does the white light from floro's diminish the reds and oranges of LED's? Or, does the added wattage benefit the grow? Any info would be great.

answered in the other help thread

 

[jawbrodt]

Any additional light will help, for sure. Well, as long as it isn't some weird spectrum that is unuseable to the plant.lol The majority of flouros will work just fine.

 

[serialkiller]

Dude LED's suck...

I use to keep my mothers under 2 90w UFO's, one all blue the other multi spectrum, their growth was so stunted I switched to a single 6400K 125W CFL and they are WAY WAY happier with the light situation now. Complete waist of money IMO. I will never again spend money on an inferior product like that. I still use them, I have them for supplimental light in my flower room but I didnt really notice any sort of gain in growth after adding them in with my 600HPS.

 

[Megalith]

Dude LED's suck...

I use to keep my mothers under 2 90w UFO's, one all blue the other multi spectrum, their growth was so stunted I switched to a single 6400K 125W CFL and they are WAY WAY happier with the light situation now. Complete waist of money IMO. I will never again spend money on an inferior product like that. I still use them, I have them for supplimental light in my flower room but I didnt really notice any sort of gain in growth after adding them in with my 600HPS.

Thanx 4 reply killa. I dont know how the 90 watt LED's compare to a 600 watt system. My space is small about 7.5 ft2. So the 600 watt system seemed a bit much so I compared them to the 400 watt system with HPS. From the test I saw the 90 watt 630 nm reds outperformed the 400 watt HPS in every aspect including harvest. Like I said I'm experimenting. I will take your word your LED's vs the 600 watt. However I believe mine are different from yours. I would Like to know how the 630 nm reds compare to the 600 watt HPS. So if you have the results, that would be awesome

 

[Megalith]

Any additional light will help, for sure. Well, as long as it isn't some weird spectrum that is unuseable to the plant.lol The majority of flouros will work just fine.

Thanx 4 reply man. I just read an article on PAR and I think this topic has been settled.

 

[riddleme]

Thanx 4 reply man. I just read an article on PAR and I think this topic has been settled.

I'll take that as a thankyou

 

[Megalith]

I'll take that as a thankyou

Yes, thank you. Great readkiss-asslol

 

[smppro]

Just make sure you dont listen to people that say LEDs suck, a lot of them like the person above bought shitty LEDs so they blame LEDs in general. There are plenty of grows now days to prove how effective they are.

 

[jawbrodt]

My main problem with LEDs are their lack of coverage. They claim that a 90 watt UFO will equal or outperform a 400 watt HPS(and the 600 too, I think), but they don't tell you that they are normally only basing that one the results of growing one, or a small number, of plants. I'd bet my life that the UFO can't even come close to matching the yield of a properly setup 600 HPS,(or a 400) with enough plants to utilize it's maximum area of coverage. I'd like to see a 90 watt UFO that can yield a pound+ of dried smoke, because it's never going to happen.

 

[serialkiller]

Just make sure you dont listen to people that say LEDs suck, a lot of them like the person above bought shitty LEDs so they blame LEDs in general. There are plenty of grows now days to prove how effective they are.

Um fuck you dude, I didnt buy shitty lights from ebay, I am using 2 ProSource Illuminators, and even under the 2 of them together the plants didnt grow nearly as fast as they are growing under the one big CFL I am using now.

I'm not even comparing a 90W to a 400HID like the manufactures claim, I am comparing 180W's of LED to 125w's of CFL and they cant even hold up there, so yes, I would say they suck if I can buy a $40 bulb that beats out $600 worth of lights.

 

[jawbrodt]

^Exactly. I got on the guy at HTG Supply, and pressed him for the truth, because i was thinking about going to LEDs at one time, mostly for the reduction in heat. When I pressed him to be honest about the LEDs(that they claim to have developed), the truth came out.....you need about 600 watts of LEDs to equal a 600 watt HPS, which would cost a pile of money.

 

[ultimate buds]

Um fuck you dude, I didnt buy shitty lights from ebay, I am using 2 ProSource Illuminators, and even under the 2 of them together the plants didnt grow nearly as fast as they are growing under the one big CFL I am using now.

I'm not even comparing a 90W to a 400HID like the manufactures claim, I am comparing 180W's of LED to 125w's of CFL and they cant even hold up there, so yes, I would say they suck if I can buy a $40 bulb that beats out $600 worth of lights

iv gotta agree with you i spent £550.00 on led lighting an its wank tottally
i know use a 600w hps an it tottaly blows away the 2 leds i had i know people say leds are good but i honestly dont think they could have tried hps / mh lighting an theres no chance of growin 8 plants under a led like you can on a hps or mh so my conclusion is
led,s suck balls

 

[smppro]

Um fuck you dude, I didnt buy shitty lights from ebay, I am using 2 ProSource Illuminators, and even under the 2 of them together the plants didnt grow nearly as fast as they are growing under the one big CFL I am using now.

I'm not even comparing a 90W to a 400HID like the manufactures claim, I am comparing 180W's of LED to 125w's of CFL and they cant even hold up there, so yes, I would say they suck if I can buy a $40 bulb that beats out $600 worth of lights.

Easy there little girl, get that sand out of your vagina and try not to make yourself look like a little bitch (too late?). You claimed the LEDs stunted your plants growth, the only LEDs that do that are shitty LEDs, so maybe you should watch your comments if your going to get all pissy. Even most people that dont like LED admit they are best for vegging, LOL you said you had an all blue ufo, thats shit my friend.

 

[Denofearth69]

Here is the technical skinny on LED lights. They work wonderfully IF and thats a very big IF, you steer clear of higher wattages. LEDs lose penetrating ability the higher the wattage, also, wattage per LED chip is also important. I am using two 120 watt panels ( with 120 single watt chips per panel ) and bottom lighting my plants with a single floro in a ten foot square area, and they are doing extremely well. IMO well worth the investment, though I did the research which steered me clear of those higher wattages, and the performance slump that has yet to be corrected.

 

[Denofearth69]

Oh, and another kudos for the LEDs is that they are rugged. My stupid brother helped me set up my room, and didn't hit a ceiling beam when he installed hook. As a result, panels fell three feet to the concrete floor when hook pulled out of ceiling, and survived with nary a scratch. I have also accidentally hit my panels with spray when spraying my plants, and no expensive exploding bulbs like MH or HPS. LED's are new tech and will require fine tuning, but in time they will become the wave of the future. Oh, and gotta love that 50,000 hour life span as well. My LEDs cost me $350 for two 120 watt panels. Also, heat is so not a factor that I have to put a space heater in my room to keep it warm enough, and HEY, no expensive ballasts either.

 

[smppro]

Um fuck you dude, I didnt buy shitty lights from ebay, I am using 2 ProSource Illuminators, and even under the 2 of them together the plants didnt grow nearly as fast as they are growing under the one big CFL I am using now.

I'm not even comparing a 90W to a 400HID like the manufactures claim, I am comparing 180W's of LED to 125w's of CFL and they cant even hold up there, so yes, I would say they suck if I can buy a $40 bulb that beats out $600 worth of lights

iv gotta agree with you i spent £550.00 on led lighting an its wank tottally
i know use a 600w hps an it tottaly blows away the 2 leds i had i know people say leds are good but i honestly dont think they could have tried hps / mh lighting an theres no chance of growin 8 plants under a led like you can on a hps or mh so my conclusion is
led,s suck balls

Ive grown with a 400w hps, 150w hps, and over 300w of cfl, and now im using LEDs and can tell you i like them better, why? Because i didnt buy shitty LEDs, thats what people dont understand, you guys are talking about UFOs and HTG LEDs, find i real company that does research and adjust their products. Why do you have to have 8 plants? It doesnt take 8 plants to get a certain yeild, thats what training is for. If you 180w of LEDs cant compare to your 125 w of cfl then you either have shitty lights or problems growing.

 

[jonnymafia]

I am using 2 ProSource Illuminators, and even under the 2 of them together the plants didnt grow nearly as fast as they are growing under the one big CFL I am using now.

Well, send them back?? you had 90 days to try them..

 

[Megalith]

My main problem with LEDs are their lack of coverage. They claim that a 90 watt UFO will equal or outperform a 400 watt HPS(and the 600 too, I think), but they don't tell you that they are normally only basing that one the results of growing one, or a small number, of plants. I'd bet my life that the UFO can't even come close to matching the yield of a properly setup 600 HPS,(or a 400) with enough plants to utilize it's maximum area of coverage. I'd like to see a 90 watt UFO that can yield a pound+ of dried smoke, because it's never going to happen.

I ve heard the same about a 400 watt system but havent seen any results vs a 600. I'd bet the 600 yield would trump them