whats the secret to maximum trichome production?

[riddleme]

so have we come to the conclusion that it is a combination of a MH the last 1-2 weeks of flowering, low RH in the latent weeks of flowering, and good lighting and skills.

i have also heard a period of 36-72 hours of darkness before harvest improves resin production as well.

pine

I would change "good lighting" to proper use of light

and proper growing or skills is a big black hole to understand for most growers

Trichs are the sunscreen for MJ and adding UVB is the best way to increase resin

MH does have a bit of UVB but there are ways to get more

 

[OregonMeds]

It's the strain first second and third and then health of the plant especially at the end which I guess is growing skills. After that I do hear lots of folks say mh will increase trich's and or adding uvb from another source, but I've tried both hps and halide together and separately for flowering and can't say as I can really back up any of it or tell which nug came from what light at all. All nugs nearest the lights are super frosty and that's about it, didn't seem to matter which light.

But I may have been limited in my shitty non co2 simple soil grows without proper environmental controls.

 

[SHOSHON3N8TV]

I got some purple maxx/snow storm tossed in free with my FF nutes and they say to add this the last 3 weeks...to produce more trichs...

 

[sakhalchea]

Get some LED and have it as a supplement light. Led have a thing for making weed coated with shiny crystals

 

[Cali chronic]

Your thrichromes are your sticky element for catching pollen. When a female is ready to reproduce, it forms the trichromes. When a male is ready, it forms pollen sacs. The pollen is released, sticks to your yummy trichs... And produces a yukky seed. It takes that female resin and male pollen to naturally produce the seed.

Strain is the real answer to your trichrome count.

BINGO Chicken dinner winner here! That is why you do not want a male around as when she is pollinated she no longer needs to produce Tri's to attract or capture pollen.

If you put a mirror up she will make more Tris too-----LOL! why? oh because she thinks there is competition so she bulks up her tri's to get the Pollen/
Cold weather------HAHAHHA

 

[valhalla88]

BINGO Chicken dinner winner here! That is why you do not want a male around as when she is pollinated she no longer needs to produce Tri's to attract or capture pollen.

If you put a mirror up she will make more Tris too-----LOL! why? oh because she thinks there is competition so she bulks up her tri's to get the Pollen/
Cold weather------HAHAHHA

I disagree... It is my understanding that a female can produce a seed without a male..it's called a hermie...a hermie will produce either femmed seeds or more mermies...here is what I think about trichs and resin production...
heres a freebie from a seasoned grower...quality over quantity any day!
Humidity also plays a role in plant resin production. Although some potent equatorial strains do seem to occur in high humidity areas, most high-test land races have evolved in drier areas, like Afghanistan. The aridity of the areas of Afghanistan where Indica strains have evolved is quite apparent by the trait of large dense flower clusters. This would only be an advantage in an area of low humidity, as flowers will mold in anything more.2

There are many examples of non-cannabis plants producing resins in order to protect themselves from drying out. The waxy coating on cacti and other succulent plants is a prime example.3 [URL="https://www.rollitup.org/"]marijuana[/URL] flowered in humid conditions will often have a longer stalk on the glandular trichome than the same strain grown in drier conditions. While this may give the appearance of being very crystallized, it will likely contain less THC than the same plant grown in a drier environment. Another problem with longer trichome stalks is that the gland heads are more likely to break off during handling.

 

[PlantManBee]

a light misting of fulvic acid diluted in RO or distilled water...be careful because a little too much and you are likely to get mold issues.

 

[ElectricPineapple]

Riddleme,

what are some other way of getting more UVB? this would be some helpful information to have.

 

[riddleme]

Riddleme,

what are some other way of getting more UVB? this would be some helpful information to have.

Best is to use a CMH bulb IMO,,,, but you can also add lizard (reptile) lights and they come in 3 flavors #2, #5, and #10 the 10's are to strong and 5's are reccomended also need to know that they need to be 3 feet or more above the canopy and not on all the time as UVB is what causes sunburn and these babies will burn your plants, you also have to be careful not to look directly at them as they can burn your eyes

There are several growers here that have done this Tahoe and Mammoth are 2 I can think of, Tahoe did several experiments there is a long thread about it

CMH is Ceramic Metal Halide only bulb I know of that has the same spectrum as the sun, but a lot of growers don't like that it only gets as big as 400 watts (everyone thinks more light is better) also know that they require an old ballasat will not work with digital

 

[valhalla88]

Best is to use a CMH bulb IMO,,,, but you can also add lizard (reptile) lights and they come in 3 flavors #2, #5, and #10 the 10's are to strong and 5's are reccomended also need to know that they need to be 3 feet or more above the canopy and not on all the time as UVB is what causes sunburn and these babies will burn your plants, you also have to be careful not to look directly at them as they can burn your eyes

There are several growers here that have done this Tahoe and Mammoth are 2 I can think of, Tahoe did several experiments there is a long thread about it

CMH is Ceramic Metal Halide only bulb I know of that has the same spectrum as the sun, but a lot of growers don't like that it only gets as big as 400 watts (everyone thinks more light is better) also know that they require an old ballasat will not work with digital

Check out a sunmaster neutral deluxe mh has a broader spectrum imitating natural sunlight which is ideal for all phases of growth. This is the third bulb I've used in this grow...even the bottom nuggs are frosty . I will post new pics tomorrow when the lights come on. Using it to finish them up!
I also have been looking into par watts ...thats how the plant sees light which is actually in some cases more important then lumen from my understanding!

 

[riddleme]

Check out a sunmaster neutral deluxe mh has a broader spectrum imitating natural sunlight which is ideal for all phases of growth. This is the third bulb I've used in this grow...even the bottom nuggs are frosty . I will post new pics tomorrow when the lights come on. Using it to finish them up!
I also have been looking into par watts ...thats how the plant sees light which is actually in some cases more important then lumen from my understanding!

Will do, I posted a ditty on par watts in my calling all noob growers thread (page 4 or 5 I think)

 

[Philo2]

It's the strain first second and third and then health of the plant especially at the end which I guess is growing skills. After that I do hear lots of folks say mh will increase trich's and or adding uvb from another source, but I've tried both hps and halide together and separately for flowering and can't say as I can really back up any of it or tell which nug came from what light at all. All nugs nearest the lights are super frosty and that's about it, didn't seem to matter which light.

But I may have been limited in my shitty non co2 simple soil grows without proper environmental controls.

I agree with nearly everything you are saying, except the stuff that doesn't have to do with the strain. Trich production is 99.9999 percent genetics.

 

[OregonMeds]

Can those of you who claim a difference in trich's with more uvb actually really see it? Blind test style?

If you bag up some grown with uvb added, and some without and mix the bags around shell game style, how often are you going to pick the right bag? I couldn't tell because there was too much variation in all buds based on the light they got even with 1kw bulbs.

Get what I'm saying? Or like I said I didn't have the environment down so I had limiting factors.

 

[valhalla88]

Can those of you who claim a difference in trich's with more uvb actually really see it? Blind test style?

If you bag up some grown with uvb added, and some without and mix the bags around shell game style, how often are you going to pick the right bag? I couldn't tell because there was too much variation in all buds based on the light they got even with 1kw bulbs.

Get what I'm saying? Or like I said I didn't have the environment down so I had limiting factors.

https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/210501-zeuss-take-harvesting.html

 

[valhalla88]

also look into fuzzybudz journal ...its where I started hearing about it then I looked into it further. I visibly saw mor crystals after a couple days!

 

[OregonMeds]

Cool, always happy to be wrong especially if it can make my nugs better.

 

[BiG PuFFer]

I've heard that if you use a small amount of UV light (black lights) when your "grow lights" are OFF.. it simulates moon light and some how producing more trichs..

 

[gangjababy]

BINGO Chicken dinner winner here! That is why you do not want a male around as when she is pollinated she no longer needs to produce Tri's to attract or capture pollen.

If you put a mirror up she will make more Tris too-----LOL! why? oh because she thinks there is competition so she bulks up her tri's to get the Pollen/
Cold weather------HAHAHHA

Alright, I'll say it one more time, the pistils are used for catching the pollen. The trichomes don't help the plant form a seed at all!!

 

[gangjababy]

I disagree... It is my understanding that a female can produce a seed without a male..it's called a hermie...a hermie will produce either femmed seeds or more mermies...here is what I think about trichs and resin production...
heres a freebie from a seasoned grower...quality over quantity any day!
Humidity also plays a role in plant resin production. Although some potent equatorial strains do seem to occur in high humidity areas, most high-test land races have evolved in drier areas, like Afghanistan. The aridity of the areas of Afghanistan where Indica strains have evolved is quite apparent by the trait of large dense flower clusters. This would only be an advantage in an area of low humidity, as flowers will mold in anything more.2

There are many examples of non-cannabis plants producing resins in order to protect themselves from drying out. The waxy coating on cacti and other succulent plants is a prime example.3 [URL="https://www.rollitup.org/"]marijuana[/URL] flowered in humid conditions will often have a longer stalk on the glandular trichome than the same strain grown in drier conditions. While this may give the appearance of being very crystallized, it will likely contain less THC than the same plant grown in a drier environment. Another problem with longer trichome stalks is that the gland heads are more likely to break off during handling.

A plant that's hermied has both male and female reproductive organs and the plant pollinates itself.

It's not the immaculate conception buddy, a female plant can't form seeds without pollen.

 

[suleman]

Try this: Jizz all over you're plants.


(or go pick up a bottle of late flowering nutes...)