I want an ounce a month and only want to grow about once or less per year?
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headworm
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1000 watt needs a much larger fan to ventilate that amount of heat, which means bigger ducting, bigger grow area, noisier and more expensive. Sometimes bigger isn't always better.
OregonMeds
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I guess you didn't look at my grow link above. What ventilation fans? You mean the 8" fan on the floor and the door open to the room?
Or maybe the oscillating fan I sometimes put in the doorway when it was really hot outside and therefore warmer in the house?
All you need in the winter is the fan on the floor pointing up and the door open.
Dude, you've never had both lights have you? I've got them all, used them all, won't use anything but 1k anymore there is just no reason after you get over it. Do what you want man, I'm just trying to tell you don't waste your time and money on another small step up. Grow a pair maybe is my advice.
Dutchgrower
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nope when take 18 plants on a 1000 watt. means 67 gram for 1 plant on a 1,2x1,2 size.
Nope i think you will propely get 500 gram (pound)
iff i was you: take 3x600 watt (1800 watt) on a size 1.80x1.20 and than you get maybe 1 kg for 1 year.
other take a plant outside whit the beginning starting under a hps lamp on 18 hours light.
OregonMeds
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Now he needs 3 600w lights to do the job? Damn that sucks for you man. 
I hope you can manage with only 3 of them.
How about more?
Too funny.
Those guys were right that a 400 could do it, given skill and time. A 600 could do it given a little skill and less time, a 1k without really thinking, but anything over that is a bit silly. There are more ways to grow than zero veg sogs and this guy is in no real rush if he has to only pop out one crop a year. Even with a low producing strain in zero veg sog or whatever you propose with 3 600's that should yield 2-3lbs.
I hope you can manage with only 3 of them.
How about more?
Too funny.
Those guys were right that a 400 could do it, given skill and time. A 600 could do it given a little skill and less time, a 1k without really thinking, but anything over that is a bit silly. There are more ways to grow than zero veg sogs and this guy is in no real rush if he has to only pop out one crop a year. Even with a low producing strain in zero veg sog or whatever you propose with 3 600's that should yield 2-3lbs.
slomoking13
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i just figured with the 400 switchable, he could cut a area into two sections and keep the 250 for a mother and use the 400 with mh for a little veg time before flower. he could easily do 3 crops a year 1/2 gram per watt would give him 600 grams which is just over 21 ounces, a few ounces over his 18 ounce goal.. 1/2 gram per watt doesn't take a lot of knowledge, so there would still be some room for improvement on that.
OregonMeds
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His plan all along was one crop a year, or so I thought. It's sure easier that way.
slomoking13
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that's true, it would be easier to just use a 1000 for one crop a year... it's realistically probably the only way that yield will be achieved without a decent amount of knowledge. pulling over a pound out of anything less that a 1000 takes luck or knowledge.
Dutchgrower
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Now he needs 3 600w lights to do the job? Damn that sucks for you man.
I hope you can manage with only 3 of them.
How about more?
Too funny.
Those guys were right that a 400 could do it, given skill and time. A 600 could do it given a little skill and less time, a 1k without really thinking, but anything over that is a bit silly. There are more ways to grow than zero veg sogs and this guy is in no real rush if he has to only pop out one crop a year. Even with a low producing strain in zero veg sog or whatever you propose with 3 600's that should yield 2-3lbs.
those guys were right on a 400 watt???? you will NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER get 100 grams in 1 month for 1 year on a 400 watt lamp.
When you have many skills and NO PROBLEMS on 1x 400 than you take 450 gram's .
He told us he wants 1 time in a year a grow..........with 18 plants....?????????? will never work.
time: normaly when he takes good plants for 3 weeks 18 hours and 10 weeks 12 hours he don't get 1 kilo on a 400 watt.
when you get as a exp.grower you wil take about 1.10gram p. wattage
a beginner can be happy to take 0,5
for ex.: 400 watt : 0,5= 200 grams
nope thats a BIG dream to get 1,2kilo for 1 time growing on a 400.....lol...........
OregonMeds
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I think I'm a lot more up on advanced growing methods than you. 1lb from a 400w is documented already, a few different ways, you just scrog the thing and veg a long time is the easiest. The grow journal is on here in fact, just not sure where but it's kind of pointless because it takes twice as long so that might as well be 800w and etc etc you get the point.
You seem to only know one style of growing and not very well.
You seem to only know one style of growing and not very well.
MassiveErrection
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Yeah the most that I will ever go for is 600w because I am using the corner of my bedroom.
stickyikkigreen
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hope your planning on buying weed then..
no but seriously it could take a couple months just to make 1 ounce
no but seriously it could take a couple months just to make 1 ounce
MassiveErrection
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I never buy it. Since I grew my own I find the dealer Shit a rip off. besides I know how long it takes to grow. I will need at least four months to produce what i want then I won't touch it for 8 months then I will need to grow again I assume.
SuperLemonMe
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Get a 600W HPS with the better quality globe. Don't get that plain shit. Get the good one. Costs like $10 more.
Get a digital ballast and a good reflector. Also a cooltube. It will pay off in the end. Keep the light close as you can always, and
Get a turbotank or other continuous feed system if you're running soil or some other system which doesn't let the plants get lots of OXYGEN TO THE ROOTS. Also have the right PH such as 5.8 for those systems
Grow bushy plants of high quality. Lemon Skunk or Cheese possibly I could suggest. Yet to see them go but both impressed in the seedling stage. Both shot up well and branch a lot. Both will produce lots of fat bud.
Then just optimize anything else you can of course. Level canopy.. remove lower branches (couple inches blank stem from the ground level is enough) so you get all the power into the top buds. I really hate seeing grows where a branch is basically touching the guys rockwool. Cut that shit off as soon as the plant switches to flower mode. Its a big waste of energy and restricts all the airflow
Airflow, temps.. 25 in the daytime.. 50% humidity. Bit of praying to god ? lol
Get a digital ballast and a good reflector. Also a cooltube. It will pay off in the end. Keep the light close as you can always, and
Get a turbotank or other continuous feed system if you're running soil or some other system which doesn't let the plants get lots of OXYGEN TO THE ROOTS. Also have the right PH such as 5.8 for those systems
Grow bushy plants of high quality. Lemon Skunk or Cheese possibly I could suggest. Yet to see them go but both impressed in the seedling stage. Both shot up well and branch a lot. Both will produce lots of fat bud.
Then just optimize anything else you can of course. Level canopy.. remove lower branches (couple inches blank stem from the ground level is enough) so you get all the power into the top buds. I really hate seeing grows where a branch is basically touching the guys rockwool. Cut that shit off as soon as the plant switches to flower mode. Its a big waste of energy and restricts all the airflow
Airflow, temps.. 25 in the daytime.. 50% humidity. Bit of praying to god ? lol
Dutchgrower
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a lot more up on advanced grow.............Thats not MY point, the people will some advice.....i give it.
But maybe..i'm stupid because all dutch people are stupid.........i don't no....thats why amsterdam so populair...because the tulips i think and cheese...hehhee.......
You know what take a look @ these: www.jointjedraaien.nl (looks for post of KWEKER) (thats me)......greets again from holland...............
OregonMeds
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I'm not one of the stupid americans, I just happen to live here.
You said 1lb on a 1k isn't possible, you are flat wrong. It's impractical and takes too long but it's wrong to say you can't do it because more than a few people on several sites have done it already. Where have you been?
You said he would need 3x600w to yield a pound with 3 tables? Do I need to tell you that you absolutely suck at growing if that's all you can do with that, and that your proposal for his growing needs completely sucked too because it's totally off base?
You are wrong wrong and wrong.
I could care less who comes from what country, that seems stupid to even bring it up though.
Want to go for more?
You said 1lb on a 1k isn't possible, you are flat wrong. It's impractical and takes too long but it's wrong to say you can't do it because more than a few people on several sites have done it already. Where have you been?
You said he would need 3x600w to yield a pound with 3 tables? Do I need to tell you that you absolutely suck at growing if that's all you can do with that, and that your proposal for his growing needs completely sucked too because it's totally off base?
You are wrong wrong and wrong.
I could care less who comes from what country, that seems stupid to even bring it up though.
Want to go for more?
Dutchgrower
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lol..... this person want advised.....i give it to him.....
he want 100 grams in 1 month, and only 1 grow in 1 year so he needs 1,2 kilo's by 1 grow.....
thats NOT possible. i just say what i was thinking thats all.
i have 3x400 watt hps with 75 plants here and i get in just 10 weeks 1 kilo from seeds.
the person whopost this was just asking something. thats all............
he want 100 grams in 1 month, and only 1 grow in 1 year so he needs 1,2 kilo's by 1 grow.....
thats NOT possible. i just say what i was thinking thats all.
i have 3x400 watt hps with 75 plants here and i get in just 10 weeks 1 kilo from seeds.
the person whopost this was just asking something. thats all............
OregonMeds
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We'll just have to agree to disagree. 1 kilo is 2.2lbs over twice what he needed, and you're growing him 1.2kilos?
Your problem calculating what he needs probably starts there, that's 2.65lbs actually more nearly 3 times what he needs and in line with everything I said.
Explains a lot.
Now you know why we didn't agree.
Your problem calculating what he needs probably starts there, that's 2.65lbs actually more nearly 3 times what he needs and in line with everything I said.
Explains a lot.
Now you know why we didn't agree.
MassiveErrection
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I don't mind sitting on over a kilo of weed as long as its good.