Stealth cabinet, strange plants

[Natanis]

I'm not sure if I can trust the directions I got or if it was a marketing scheme to sell this cabinet. This is a 24"x36"wx42"h cabinet. Came with 400w MH cooled light and also 400w HPS bulb for flowering. Has drip system to 14 net baskets filled with hydroton pellets, also fogger and airstone. Organic peat thingys to start seeds. I used some seeds I had because I am just playing for now.

Nutrients Flora Nova Grow and Flora Nova bloom...

Sprouted about 20 seeds, got 8 good seedlings. According to directions I ran Mh x 24 hours for about two weeks , then changed to HPS bulb and 12/12, water and nutrient change to "bloom" and that was 10 days ago. Nutrients raised steadily to about 800-900 ppm now. Ph is about 6-6.5. Temps 85 during light cycle, 68 at night.

Plants now are only about 8" tall with very thick short stalks. Leaves are lush, grean, very wide, and some new fan leave growth looks almost like... spinach? Still can't tell the sex but newest cola growth looks fine (I'm not sure what a pre-flower is?) Roots look healthy too.

Anyway.... I think short plants are good... right? Or was this a flawed plan? Bad seeds?

I can't find any pictures out there that look like my grow....

Any words of wisdom?

 

[MightyBuddha]

It looks like something stunted their growth and I also see what looks like curled leaves. Seems like something was a little off. I'm no expert but I would expect taller plants even with only 2 weeks of veg.

 

[Natanis]

Yep. Curled under. Especially on the one furthest from the light and closest to the pump and air stone. I'll check back tomorrow. It's almost time for "Lights Out". Thanks for the quick reply.

 

[mogie]

Are you sure that the temp doesn't get over 85? Something is off.

 

[Air]

Words of Wisdom:

Looks like you are watering a bit too much maybe under watering, expierement and figure it out! Also, cant you just look at your plants and see they are being baked. My assumption is gonna be that you dont have a fan blowing on the plants making them move a bit. The light is too close/getting the plants too hot (close lights = smaller bushier plants btw) 85 degrees is pushing it try and get it down to 80 at most

 

[Natanis]

Thanks for the wisdom. The temp has gotten higher than 85 a few times as I've had a few prob's with the odor and it went up when I put the filter on. I'm going to raise the light all the way up. There are two muffin fans blowing in and an exhaust at the top so not much more to do there.

Thanks again. I won't be a newbie forever - gotta start somewhere!

 

[btt]

Looks like overwatering to me. What is your watering schedule like?

 

[Air]

Thanks for the wisdom. The temp has gotten higher than 85 a few times as I've had a few prob's with the odor and it went up when I put the filter on. I'm going to raise the light all the way up. There are two muffin fans blowing in and an exhaust at the top so not much more to do there.

Thanks again. I won't be a newbie forever - gotta start somewhere!

If you want your plants to do well you NEED to get them down on the temp, they will continue stunted growth and not yield as much or as potent bud as you would with healthy ones.

 

[Natanis]

Looks like overwatering to me. What is your watering schedule like?

It runs all the time. Isn't it supposed to with this set up? I dropped the heat throughout my house by 5 degrees today and the temp didn't get above 78 so that might help. I could turn the drip pump off for part of the time but should I turn the fogger off also? Obviously the airstone has to stay on to get O2 to the roots....

 

[Natanis]

I was just reading another post by Alien and his plants are short but healthy. His sytem is the same but with no fogger and bigger space. That may be my problem.... too much heat and too much water. I have the heat under control now so maybe I'll put the fogger on a timer. What d'ya think?

 

[Natanis]

I think you guys were right. I have been keeping the temps around 75 during the day and things are much better. The girls are looking healthy although I'll never change the fact that they are stunted. Lesson learned though... Grow number 2 will be fewer plants and lower temps to begin with. Here's some updated pic's, day 38... 3 weeks flowering.

 

[green_nobody]

a max of 85F sounds a too hot to me, i try to stay within the 70's, did you set up some ventilation to the box, as well as some ventilator on the inside? and how much water do you feed them?
all of this 3 above made me trouble on my first attempts to grow something... but their could be a lot of things right now...

 

[RoachCoach]

I'm really no expert being i am on my first grow but your pictures sorta look like pictures I have seen of plants that have been over fertilized/over watered plus the heat is a lil high

 

[RoachCoach]

although that is all based on things i have read and seen not actual experience