what 2c to do 1st

shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
I found 2c-e to be rather calm and relaxing until the larger dosages..
 
BangBangNig

BangBangNig

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Im not an experienced tripper at all. Done salvia a few times and like 1.7 gs of shrooms but i did 2c-i and it was almost not enough. It was great at a medium dose but it got a little crazy at higher doses. So for an in-experienced tripper, id say 2c-i. I wish i had experience with 2c-e but im scared it will be to intense for me.
 
ndangerspecimen101

ndangerspecimen101

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Should be taking a 2c-c ride very soon... seems the most relax and clean of all 2cx's... and consider to be the closest to the structure of mescaline!
 
brandon.

brandon.

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hey shepj, where'd you learn so much about all this? I wasn't fortunate enough to give a damn about learning while I was in school, so I missed classes like chem and biology (which I would LOVE to take now but it's not really something I need for my software engineering degree haha)
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
brandon. said:
hey shepj, where'd you learn so much about all this? I wasn't fortunate enough to give a damn about learning while I was in school, so I missed classes like chem and biology (which I would LOVE to take now but it's not really something I need for my software engineering degree haha)
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I love chemistry and psychology :-) I constantly read! If you really want to learn, go pick up a textbook or start reading articles online.. I'll show you the 2c-c & Mescaline thing.



*This is the basis of all the substances in PiHKAL, all phenethylamines carry this structure. PiHKAL #142 PEA



*PiHKAL #96 M. Brandon, I added the notes so you can compare the structures and understand the chemistry a little better.

Briefing:

For all of the 2C-x substances (some are in PiHKAL some are not), the basic chemical name is as follows:

2,5-dimethoxy-4-_____phenethylamine (the ____ is according to the substance mentioned).



*"PIHKAL" - #22 2C-C​
 
brandon.

brandon.

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Fucking awesome! Do you have a textbook you'd recommend? Something that wouldn't need a teacher to explain all of it.

Also what part of NE are you from? (if you don't mind telling) I miss it up there :(
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
brandon. said:
Fucking awesome! Do you have a textbook you'd recommend? Something that wouldn't need a teacher to explain all of it.

Also what part of NE are you from? (if you don't mind telling) I miss it up there :(
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What do you want to learn about? I will probably be able to help you out if you tell me what you want to learn.

Eh, lil north of Mass.
 
brandon.

brandon.

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Chemistry/Organic Chemistry... probably a little pointless to learn at my age, but I love learning new shit.
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
brandon. said:
Chemistry/Organic Chemistry... probably a little pointless to learn at my age, but I love learning new shit.
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How old are you? If you have taken a chem class and have even a basic understanding you could run over to a book store and pickup something like "Organic Chem for Dummies", the books aren't half bad. If you know of anywhere near you that throws away old textbooks that is also not a bad way to go (the books will be a couple years outdated but who gives a shit).
 
brandon.

brandon.

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shepj said:
How old are you? If you have taken a chem class and have even a basic understanding you could run over to a book store and pickup something like "Organic Chem for Dummies", the books aren't half bad. If you know of anywhere near you that throws away old textbooks that is also not a bad way to go (the books will be a couple years outdated but who gives a shit).
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Well I'm 24, but by pointless I meant it really won't do me any good in my professional life because It's a little too late for me to switch majors. I've got a 1 month old son, so my days of switching majors and not making any money are over.

I have never had the opportunity to take a chem class. I spent all my science credits in high school on biology and things of that nature. I'll see if I can find a pdf high school chem textbook. I don't really wanna create any drug synthesis' or anything like that, just want to understand things better as I read them. Knowledge is power.
 
shepj

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
brandon. said:
I meant it really won't do me any good in my professional life because It's a little too late for me to switch majors. I've got a 1 month old son, so my days of switching majors and not making any money are over.
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It may not do you any good in your professional life, but there is no need to ever stop learning. We can always learn more, and by not setting a limit to what we can learn and what we do learn, you are always improving our life (whether professional or not does not necessarily matter).

brandon. said:
I have never had the opportunity to take a chem class. I spent all my science credits in high school on biology and things of that nature. I'll see if I can find a pdf high school chem textbook. I don't really wanna create any drug synthesis' or anything like that, just want to understand things better as I read them. Knowledge is power.
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There are tons of sites where you can download EBooks for free online (torrent, warez, etc.), also, here is something to help your quest a lot.

http://selfmadescholar.com/b/self-education-resource-list/

A lot of reputable colleges/universities have online libraries and courses that are free of charge. Enjoy.
 
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