Huh...? Are you even paying attention? I'm just pointing out that a lot of 'libertarians' have more of a problem with social security than with the defense budget, despite that latter making up 50% of your tax dollar. Of course there are people who genuinely believe in smaller government, like ron paul and his fans, but too many are 'libertarian/conservative' meaning that they oppose everything the government does when a democrat is in office and support trampling on people's civil rights at home and fighting wars overseas when it's a republican. This is the majority of the tea party movement. If there were really that many people who are 'libertarians' ron paul would have been the GOP nominee in 2008.
Requiring people to carry around their IDs because they might suspected of being illegal migrants is something any honest libertarian would oppose. The same goes for the right to have an abortion, the right of gays and lesbians to marry and adopt and cannabis prohibition. There needs to be a litmus test for tea partiers...if you think the government has the right to tax you to fund overseas wars, but not to fund healthcare, then chances are you aren't a libertarian.
As with so many when you are shown the error of your post you do not take the time to STOP and recognize, you move on to trying to prove your right instead of taking a look at where you were wrong.
Your first post was in regards to the defense budget and how we were not discussing the defense budget. I quote "
It's funny that in a thread about ron paul's son winning a primary, none of the pseudo-libertarian conservative tea partiers are willing to discuss the cost of our overseas empire... " You were wrong, we did discuss the defense budget and yet when presented with that fact you sidestep and attempt to ellude that i was the one not paying attention. LOL
You are way too busy pointing fingers and erroniously labeling anyone that is not lockstep with your agenda.
Your positions are really pretty far reaching and more opinion than fact. Ron Paul was the candidate of choice by more than just libertarians and yet the 2 party system will not give him the opportunity to upset the apple cart. Your assertion that if there were so many ," Libertarians" Ron Paul would have been the GOP candidate shows a very limted understanding of the system as it works. The choice for GOP candiadate is not in the hands of the people, it is in the hands Of the RNC.
Based on what you provide in your non-factual opinion I wonder what do you even know about the teaparty besides what you hear from the media that is against them.
Your opinion that the liberrtarians support trampling on peoples civil rights is ridiculous at best and shows how skewed your attitudes really are.
I do not support overseas wars or the mandated healthcare as it sits. I support Abortion rights and gay marriage and the right to adopt. How does you skewed labeling system work with that. I must be a teaparty person because I do not support healthcare mandates..Right? and I can't be a libretarian because I support abortion and gay marriage . Quite confusing to someone who so readily labels others so easily. Lions and Tigers and bears, OH MY!!!
Why should any libertarians be against a law that is a part of federal or state law? because you say so?
If you drive a car you are required to have a license in your possesion, Fact1
If you do not have one on you, you are then required to at least present verbal evidence of who you are, further the officer has the duty to investigate if what you are saying is true. FACT2
If you are a mexican national or naturalized citizen you are required to have paperwork and or a green card in your possesion at ALL TIMES as well as a drivers license. Fact3
If during a lawful encounter an Officer cannot establish the identity of an individual and have reasonable suspicion that the individual is in this country illegally they have the duty to investigate further. Fact4.
These last 2 laws are not Arizonas laws they are the federal laws that have been on the books for decades and are being enforced duly ny Arizona Fact5
Maybe you should apply your so called litmus test to yourself for once.and stop pointing fingers and labeling everyone who does not fall lockstep with your opinions.