the UFO started it all, but wasnt quite what we all needed. but no worries because the American made LED is already here LED Grow Lights - LightBlaze 400
square in shape , i think this light will be alot better because it can have more light per square inch on the whole base of the plant, which is gonna produce wider stalks, we are so close!!!!!!! the lights out of stock but, as soon as it comes in ill be sure to pick one up!
I wouldn't worry about it too much because here is what I think.When i see it personally work ill say ok but i doubt it and at 600??
i got a
1000 watt hps with a hood and a hortilux bulb and lumatex ballast for 500.
I wouldn't worry about it too much because here is what I think.
How many people on here are always posting that they can't afford a $100 HPS light ?????
How many people have to think before they buy the $20 HPS light we found ?
How many people do you really think are spending the $600 on a crappy LED light ?
I really think someone who sells LED lights is posting here trying to get their product sold. Every couple hours like Clockwork someone new will show up with 2 posts, it's always 2 posts, and says something like,
"Hi, I'm new here, I'm ready to grow, I just bought a couple LED lights and they are doiing such a good juob I can't believe it, I'll post some questions later"
Pay attention and you'll see what I mean. I've hammered a few of them and they always dissappear after I say stuff about it, and then BAM, someone else with 2 posts shows up in the same 5 minutes.
Watch with me and let's get whoever it is to stop posting crap on our forum !!!!!
Ok...The bottom line is that UFOs are far too expensive compared to a light that will work better. That is the acuall BOTTOM line, not that some scientists somewhere are about to discover LEDs that are good for growing fat buds. LEDs are the future, fine, but If you want to get high this century I would call and get your hps back.2 DAYS AGO, I ORDERED A MH/SP LIGHT... AND I GOT TOOK IT BACK WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE UFO... AND ORDERED IT OFF OF HTGsupply.com . I Asked the guy at my hydroponic shop, who i feel was fairly well knowledgeable and he said, they havent invested in them yet for sell out of there store, because they just arnt proven enough , and for most people that need a large area these lights are Unpracticle, however, im only starting 1-3 plants on a 3x3 hydroponic table, and he said that would work great for you, he light only uses 90 watts, its undetecable by helicopter infared....cools itself... doesnt even need a reflector. And its perfect for an area that cant get ventilation like a closet... it uses low electricity, and low heat and plugs right into a wall socket with no balast. honestly i just set up my hydroponic table and will be growing with this light, now the bottom line is this type of lense is being used by nasa to grow plants in space. I believe that within 5 years, all other lights will be a thing of the past.
For months I have researching LEDs and have found that the only non-biased research on LED exists with NASA. A 10 year study is ongoing into the use of low voltage LEDs to grow plants and sustain humans in deep space. It will take some time but you can find the research. Basically the research is evolving as the btechnology is developed further. Based on what I have seen the 5 watt LEDs are the best available now and even the excat voltage is still under more investigation as to what is the best formula. However my take on this is from another angle. I agree with you die-hards about the HIDs being the best lighting, currently available, for growing. I must qualify "best" in that phrase because ceratinly "best" is relative. Currently I do not any longer feel it is truely the best due to the long-term and eco-impact of using them. They have an extremely high waste factor in terms of released energy versus plant absorbtion. They use a crap-load of energy and cost us significantly throughout their very limited lifespan and their heat signature is highly illiminating to law-enforcement no matter how much you think you cool them. The cost of producing that energy is where the wall breaks down for me. Today I read that the Artic ice will be gone in 10-20 years in summer months (someplaces will not have seasons, just hot as hell all year round like it is now for us in the south now; 90 FUCKING DEGREES IN OCTOBER). It pisses me off that we are doing this to ourselves. It pisses me off that we have not cared for years and seem to continue not to care today about the urgency of this. So for this I will chase the LED manufacturers into making a reasonabley priced, made in the USA/Canada device that really works. I will not buy or sell goods from China because it hurts the very people they are selling to right now in the US. Questionably made goods with questionable materials, that do not last long converts the hard earned money the "strapped for cash" buyers put down, will have to put down more money to replace the POS, the cheap POS.why the hell does every one think they cost 500 or 600 bucks!!!!!
I have not seen them priced this high. 200 or so is typical.
2 DAYS AGO, I ORDERED A MH/SP LIGHT... AND I GOT TOOK IT BACK WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT THE UFO... AND ORDERED IT OFF OF HTGsupply.com . I Asked the guy at my hydroponic shop, who i feel was fairly well knowledgeable and he said, they havent invested in them yet for sell out of there store, because they just arnt proven enough , and for most people that need a large area these lights are Unpracticle, however, im only starting 1-3 plants on a 3x3 hydroponic table, and he said that would work great for you, the light only uses 90 watts, its undetecable by helicopter infared....cools itself... doesnt even need a reflector. And its perfect for an area that cant get ventilation like a closet... it uses low electricity, and low heat and plugs right into a wall socket with no balast. honestly i just set up my hydroponic table and will be growing with this light, now the bottom line is this type of lense is being used by nasa to grow plants in space. I believe that within 5 years, all other lights will be a thing of the past.
Really???? Must be different model. mine sucks for veg. however i have been using it for a couple weeks flowering mixed with a 150 hps and its doin great!!! in fact the bud directly under the ufo is by far the biggest. i just posted pics comparing two weeks ago and today. huge differenceI used it for veg and it worked well.