Deep in the woods

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cjc0013

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I live near the woods. Not getting into to much details but it is very vast at least a mile away from any houses. I want to plant about 6 plants total. 6 so I hopefully end up with some females. I want enough bud to last me awhile. So since I am growing deep in the woods I have a few questions;

1. Soil, should I make a raised bed or should I dig holes? (Will be using native soil...)
2. Seeds, should I germ them or plant as seeds?
3. Wildlife, Going to be using dog hair, urine and maybe fishing line to keep them out. Any other CHEAP! tips for keeping deer away?
4. Sunlight, Since I am deep in the woods I am not sure if plants will get enough sun light, what can I do?

Any/all help is appreciated!

Seeds I have;
x4 super lemon haze !!!!!!
x3 ak 47s (do these do well outside?)
x3 wonder gun (strain developed where I live)
x3 random purple kush of some kind
 
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Carolina Green Bud

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See the fencing in these pictures, it's plastic and really cheap. You can nail to adjacent trees. Deer can jump over this fence, but deer tend to take the easiest route. I have not had a problem yet, and we are crawling with deer here. FYI date stamp on photos is not correct, I took photos yesterday.

Look for a natural clearing, cut as many smaller saplings as possible, and a limb saw to trim the limbs off of trees you can't cut down helps.

I get about 6hours of direct sunlight

I obviously like the 5 gallon buckets. They came from lowe's and cost 2.50 ea. Drill holes in the bottom for water to drain out, add a layer of gravel in the bottom of the bucket if possible. Using native soil in the woodsis probably not the best idea. If it is an area with alot of pines, it will be too acidic. Despite what everone says, I'm using Miracle grow. I think my soil for the 5 plants was around 25 dollars. You can get bags of just topsoil for really cheap, probably not the best choice, but probably better than native soil

I started my seeds in 16oz stadium cups. I left the potting soil down about an inch, pushed to seed down into the soil just a little bit, then raked soil over the seed. Soaked the soil with a spray bottle, then covered with clear plastic. Left in the dark for the first 36 hours, they popped through the soil on the 3rd day. Then take the plastic off.

When they were 2 weeks old they were about 6" tall, and I transplanted to the buckets. They are 6 weeks old now.
 

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cjc0013

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Thanks, but I have no choice with the soil. I have x4 seedlings right now and germinating x3 more. The soil I have selected seems to be working....they are growing.
 
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Carolina Green Bud

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Well good luck. Maybe you could get a little perlite to mix with it to help with drainage. A lot of people on here dig holes, with my buckets the ultimate plant size and yield is limited. If you dig a large enough hole, there really is no limit. But, I feel like I have more control. If you dig holes and you hit clay, if you have heavy rains, the water will stand there. Not sure if you have clay soil were you live, but here, 12" below the topsoil, you hit clay.
 
Robert Paulson

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My two cents:

Dig holes, make sure to dig in soil and not clay. in the bottom of the hole throw some 16-16-16, put some mild feritizer/soil mix (cheap shit at home depot). Transplant start, I would recommend at least a foot tall, into hole. I would definitely not recommend just planting a seedling. Look for natural clearings, keep in mind where the sun will be coming from the next few months. Maybe even hang out for the day if you dont know. Will you be growing on your property? If not the number one way to piss off logging companies is to start killing there trees so that ur plants can get light. As far as predators such as deer and elk, I would recommend putting down a lot of cougar/predator scent. The old school way is even better, but I do not condone it, is to nail a cat to a tree. Other animals can't tell the difference in scent between a cougar and house cat. Do not plant them in orange/white buckets or in the middle of sticker bushes. People think they are being sneaking clearing out an area that you can only tunnel into, it might have good security from the road, but from the air it looks like a big bullseye. I used to work at the local air port where the state police would fly their helos out of during the summer months. I asked them one time how they found most of the plants that they did. The answer: planting in buckets and clearing out halos around the plants. Check out the vegetation around you grow areas. Are they plants that will stay green thru the summer or will they brown? You don't want your plants being the only thing green on the hill.
 
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Robert Paulson

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another point, if you are hitting a lot of clay, get off the hill to a flatter area and you might find some soil. also and this works great if they have ever logged on the property there will be old burn piles sporadically thru the woods. If you can find one there is some fertile soil under it. Churn that dirt up with some old burnt wood and it 3will be fertile and drain well.
 
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cjc0013

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Yes, I was unsure of clay. Perhaps I will do half in a raised bed and half in large holes. I am thinking 4 ft deep by 4 ft wide for each plant, spacing them 10 ft apart. Why is it a bad idea to plant the new sprout right away?
 
Robert Paulson

Robert Paulson

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The chances of survival are far less, at least where I live. They would take too much of a beating. 4ft. deep is way too deep for the hole. For a two foot start I only dig a one foot diameter hole.
 
ThinkSayMakeDo

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1. - If you don't want to spend any money on amendments, use raised beds, dig your holes at least 2 feet deep, and throw a layer of sticks on the bottom to aerate the soil some. Make sure not to pack the sticks in there, keep it loose with a lot of gaps, or else the roots will have trouble working their way around. I highly recommend peat moss IF you can manage to get it there, one bail of 3.8 cubic feet will probably be enough to get the dirt in 6 holes nicer. It's less than $10.
2. - It's best to grow them inside a little, if you can. If not, I would say germ them inside, get some little cups and put them somewhere outside until they establish their roots in the cups, then put 'em in the ground for the rest of their life. If you can't do that, germ 'em and put 'em in your plot.
3. - It's growing ever-popular especially amongst the guerillas of this site to use Irish Spring soap and Moth Balls. I dug my plot out and got my beds ready to find deer prints in them. Put out the soap and the mothballs, and there hasn't been anything there since. Strong man-made scents deter deer especially. As for the rodents, they can be a problem, the raised beds will help that a little, otherwise you can get a little bit of chicken wire while they're still young to protect them.
4. - Look for the best spot you can get, get some hedge trimmers, and a little saw and make it the best you can. Try to make your clearing East to West or West to East, for this will follow the sun pretty close, not dead on for the tilt of the Earth, but close. If you can track the sunlight in your area, even better. I've seen plants growing in the shade, lanky ass plants, but still there.
 
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Carolina Green Bud

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Like Robert Paulson said, you don't want to clear too much and and make an opening obvious from the air. But like ThinkSayMakeDo said, sun moves from travels east to west. You will not likely find an opening that you won't have to do some trimming. I actually looked on Google Earth to try to find a good opening. My opening is only about 10ft wide, and I purposely left some overhang to not make an obvious opening. Mine is in planted pines, so I primarily removed gum saplings that volunteered. I purposely left some good size gums because the leafs are similarly shaped and colored to pot. I also did most of my trimming in the winter time so it could "heal" and green back up. In Northern Hemisphere suns path moves toward the north as the solstice approaches, in fact on June22 it is at it's northernmost point.
 
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