Not trying to push anyone's buttons here, but interesting discussion, just my 2 cents if anyone is interested
first of all if u dont believe in a creator thats ur choice, but to me life is fruitless and meaningless if we just live and die for no reason what so ever. And the thought that my fate and ur fate is just the same as Hitler’s isn’t refreshing to me.
There is something which is a bit interesting to me, when u look around u and see birds,fish,trees,water and so on {nature/earth basically} u cant help but wonder i mean, how did all this happen by mistake and come from bacteria? seriously get rid of ur macho attitude and ur ego just for a bit and think about it. who taught birds their language? who taught fish their language, who taught ants their language, who gave trees their purpose, how could it be that the water cycle is so precise and that everyday the same amount of water evaporates and drops later etc... {language of communication I mean}
i mean anyone reading this agrees that we are here, as in alive and living. every single living thing on earth has a purpose. you know we created tvs, pcs, cookers, projectors, cars, boats, submarines etc, so quickly humans become boastful and arrogant thinking they are superior to everything, and even worse people start thinking they are superior to each other and before we know it we think we are the smartest and the best and we control everything, science and technology, science and technology, i hear that all the time.
And then a few supposedly “intelligent” people come along and come up with a
theory which sounds good, is easy to grasp {tho it has many flaw's}.
Then u have those people that rush to embrace claims and theories. But why?
well firstly {in my opinion} the brain/body as most of us know likes to be lazy if it can get away from hardship. we like to cut corners and we like to clamp onto things the easiest way possible. eg: walk 5 miles to get milk in the morning, or jump in the car instead? which one would u pick? obviously the preferred method ur brain accepts straight away is the car, saying that, u could push yourself to walk, u can even try and cheat on ur brain to motivate urself, eg: oh i could use the exercise or its a beautiful day or etc..
now lets get back to why these people accept those theory's/claims:
first as everyone else they have a void in the "what is the purpose of my life department" followed by the debate of "is there really a creator and where is he" which is really mentally challenging and confusing not to mention its been going on for thousands of years so mentally they say that surely if its been going on for that long its not like i will find the truth{if there is one}, so when a certain idea or theory comes along straight away ur brain says here u go thats the shortcut/answer/truth, then it calculates n says ok if i accept this decision then thats a type of security for me and it puts me a bit at ease so i dont have to worry about a creator or restrictions in my life and i can do wt i want when i want and I don’t have to think of this whole subject anymore {fill that void basically},+ the person/group of that theory look like good and really smart people{smarter then myself} so that backs up the idea and reassures the individual even more, and then when u see more lost people joining that idea u calculate that it must be the undeniable truth which puts u even more to ease{and deeper in that hole} and u shovel any/all doubts and questions that cannot be answered to the back of the brain and think well there must be a logical answer without even bothering to research/question any faults.
furthermore accepting an idea like that will save u soooo much research and time and effort and besides ur life is all over u, and u have so much to worry about, food, bills, family and no time and so and so, by that time ur roots have grown far into the soil of that idea that an individuals brain would defend that particular idea with all its power. Why? Hummm, how about that the brain is afraid of change especially unknown change, an unknown road, as opposed to the somewhat comfy state its in on that particular train of thought or on that road u know well and are familiar with.
Not to mention the ego which of course no one wants to admit their own wrong and everyone wants to be right.
Eg: if u grew up in a household that supports TeamY lets say, ur dad and ur mum n brothers n sisters are all hardcore supporters, so u will most likely support TY, so lets say you do and ur 40 years old and now ur children are hardcore TY supports and I come along n tell u team X is way better than ur team, better players, better stats, they are from ur hometown etc… so support them. Do u think ull stop supporting TY n get ur dad n brothers n sisters n children to stop supporting them n u all start supporting teamX? Even if u know Im right?
And even if team X has won against TY 20x in a row u will keep going back to watch the game and support TY just in the hope that they win once although u know the odds are far off, just for that drop of hope so u can comeback to me n say see we won we are better etc.. even if u know uv lost 20x before ull say I don’t care we won this time and were better, ull blame the other games on luck or players had too many kebabs on the weekend or something.
And this is just a lame example, imagine how the brain will react on a subject as big as a Creator. Especially when u have no certain knowledge and when u don’t even know where to start looking and ur frustrated, at that point ull be looking for any crack in the wall to escape from, and the first one that sounds good and has a few bold convincing statments mixed up in there is a winner.
Then u have the other type of security:
born christian, born muslim, born hindu, born jew or even born into atheism by their parents etc... and they just believe what their parents have told them or what the priest has told them or what their surroundings have been while growing up or worse they don't even believe in their born religion but still they lable themselves Muslims or they wear a cross and go church on sundays etc... but ask any one of them to explain their religion/beliefs in more than the common heard stuff or ask them questions about their religion/beliefs and u will undoubtedly see that they have no real faith but its only a cover for the mind and heart to security. And this type if very common. I call them sheep, because that’s exactly what they are, they run in herds, they do what everyone else is doing and all they need is a person with half a brain with his own agenda/motive{money,power.etc} and a bell and they follow that leader and that’s their security.
now lets get back to man and his ego, man created the camera and boasts 10mp and infrared and i dunno what... look at ur eyes in the mirror and compare it with what man has made, what do u find? a camera is nothing but rubbish compared to ur eyes.
we made computers and supercomputers and chips.... look at ur brain look at DNA!!!
we made ships and cars and all types of vehicles... look at ur body/hands/legs.
we made speakers and radio.... ears, tong and voice.
we made generators / pumps etc... look at ur heart.
these are only a few things just to give u a picture of how complex beings we are, there are cities and worlds living in our bodys, transport systems, machines, everything that functions so perfectly. Really just look at urself in the mirror, move ur hands and legs.. now do u look like bacteria? We cannot even comprehend ourselves and nature around us and earth and that is frightening so we look for the cracks and blend in.
now u ask ok why should we not believe theories/evolution etc...
well NONE of them can deny the FACT that macro and micro systems are arrange, fixed, proportioned, measured, determined, limited, synchronized and givin distinct characteristics that they cannot go beyond or exceed...{"perfect" comes to mind}.
Then u have the FACT that they have such predictable and recognizable characteristics which allow for man to study, reflect, and research which enables us to reach scientific conclusions which then allows us to apply our "technological instruments" that in turn provides us with more benefit and sustenance in order to excel and move forward in the evolution of our social environment.
we cannot deny that every single person on earth is subsisting and being sustained through a unique and perfect balance of natural phenomena that we are NOT the authors of and have no authority over what so ever.
Which means there must/has to be a great power that is the author of this.
Go and do ur research and check, earth has been DESIGNED to support life. It is so complexly designed that u would have to be a complete Loon to think otherwise.
Its not simply a case of we are just another planet and by mistake we were positioned correctly and by mistake we have water and by mistake were are just the correct distance from the sun so living things can be supported and the by mistakes keep going on and on and I can list 1000s with only my limited knowledge but I hope the point is clear. If ur betting on odds that everything happened by mistake and u believe in 0.0000000000001 odds then why don’t u go to a casino and create a new rulet table with a million numbers and put ur life, wife and kids on one number n see what happens, I mean hey uv taken worse odds in ur approach to life so it sounds good. And its not like ur gona lose anything I mean ur gona die anyway… or maybe ur hoping for a miracle cure to make u live forever and in that case I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
You see there is a very fine line between being smart and being ignorant or arrogant or both.
People can be smart in any subject but that could only make them think that they are smarter than they really are and in time arrogance builds up with knowledge if the person is not careful, and after that when u hear something against ur ideology about the subject ur learned about straight away that voice inside u will rush n tell u that’s all rubbish n u will start throwing information out even if presented with facts and evidence just so u don’t feel your wrong. Because if u allow ur self to be proven wrong then that means ur back to square one, even worse is if uv spent years backing ur claims with all ur effort.
Eg: A man has taken 15 years to build a castle on a hill and he is only a year away from completion, an expert comes and tells him that the foundations under his castle are weak or the ground underneath is not good to be built on and in the case of a small earthquake the whole castle will fall apart and suggests that its better to disassemble and move the whole castle to another hill a few kilometres away.
Lets put ourselves in that mans shoes, 15years hard work and sweat. 99% that person will tell the other guy F OFF and finish his castle and play down any threat even if that part of the country has a history of earthquakes and its not something uncommon he will take the chance of the castle collapsing on him instead of taking any other advice. WHY? I don’t think I need to explain anymore on that.
You see if u still 100% against the idea of a creator then unfortunately your going to be stuck inside ur own mental hole that u dug for urself. Hey if your happy with it and have no doubts then by all means do what your doing. We will not interfere. We can all exist together in our own rights.
If you partially believe there is a creator or if you have doubts then there is hope for you and if you would like reassurance and a little info here and there then I suggest you do ur research and look around you, if you don’t find anything then you can be reassured.
Now this is for the people who already believe there is a creator:
Now you see when u wakeup u drink milk, u have breakfast, midday u have ur lunch then u eat fruits, after u have dinner n u have snacks n so on. Remember the next time u get the munchies and u grab that piece of succulent mango or u eat that piece of chocolate or have that apple or drool over that pineapple cake or u munch on that chicken and every bite is so beautiful and filling and they taste so good, think what is this? What does it mean? The atheist will tell u ohh u know the selection of food and fruits and etc… that is present for humans that we love so much and we{including them} feed on daily and we drool on when we are hungry or when we are even shopping and we want all of it , yea well that all happened by mistake as well just like everything else and it just so happens that they are so beautifully textured and packed with vitamins and antioxidants for our wellbeing not to mention the cures for illnesses. Yea ok and that’s great for you, if that’s your conclusion then be it.
But I say our creator loves us, he has given us soooo much variety and so much taste and texture and has filled our earth with things for us to excel and things to eat on and has made out earth so enjoyable and beautiful with 1000s of fascinating animals and birds with beautiful sounds and beaches and scenery but unfortunately a lot of us are destroying all of it instead of thanking and preserving.
When was the last time u were eating that mango{u would have noticed I like mangos by now
J} and u thought to yourself I thank the creator for this fruit and beautiful gift? Even if we thank 24hrs a day we would not be able to repay any of the things we have been provided with.
But showing your love and willingness to learn and change yourself and your heart and searching for the truth is is enough for your creator.
Now lets take a trip into our homes, people get married, have a house and have children. In that parents would have created an environment and every parent will have a set of rules in his/her household especially towards the children as they have come out of the husbands seed and the mothers belly, I know children nowadays think it should be the other way around, but seriously if parents feel they have a right to set rules in their home and to enforce law onto their children and to govern them from right or wrong. Then why is it that the one who created us does not have the right over us and our actions? He has more than a right.
Remember a creator of this magnitude does not need you in any way and does not need to seek refuge in us, instead we need him in everyway.
Have you made effort to find out the truth?{no excuses}
If there is a creator then surely he must have set rules and regulations for us to abide by? I mean he would not have created us in vain and he would have not let us run in the earth with no guidance of some sort. We are not here to just eat drink go to the toilet, rocknrole, party and have sex with each other like a bunch of animals.
And surely a creator would not judge me and you like he will judge Hitler or a paedophile?
So where is that truth you might ask as I might sound over confident?
The truth is right in front of you a lot of the times in your daily life … {ur probably thinking this guy must be smoking some top of the line crack to say something like that}.
Fortunately for me I don’t smoke crack.
.{im organicish}lol. Ill say it again:
THE TRUTH IS RIGHT THERE INFRONT OF YOU.
THE CREATORS MESSAGE IS CRYSTAL CLEAR AND IS RIGHT INFRONT OF YOU BUT YOU.
But have you really been looking for it though?
You see there is a difference between listening to CNN and believing everything they say, and watching CNN seeing what they say then go research to find out the truth.
There is no use for you to believe in ANYTHING without CONSTANTLY FULLY QUESTIONING AND INTEROGATING EVERYPART OF IT.
If there is a message to mankind from a creator then in my eyes it has to be
flawless.
It would have no contradictions and no questions which cannot be answered.
It would have to fill that void with something that cannot be expressed by words.
It should have directions and answers to ALL your problems.
But now you see that’s all nice and dandy but you see to be successful in anything you have to strive. You want to be an NBA star then ur gona have to work your ass off to get there, but the taste of success is overwhelming, look at any winning team, they cry when they win the cup or that medal. Its emotional because in his head hes worked so hard to get here but it paid off at the end and compensated him.
So how about your journey to your creator to attain that most powerful taste of real success? Do you think it will come easy? There is a struggle in every road to success but the drive in that road is the focus at the finish line so I would say why should we not apply that formula to finding out the truth about our creator?
Anyway I don’t even know if anyone would even read this.hehe.
There is a part 2 somewhere in my rusty head.
J
PS : I am not trying to insult anyone we should all learn to live with each other, people from all parts and all cultures, races, faiths and religions.
