ninjagaiden
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So if the bill gets passed in November, what exactly does this mean for us growers? Seems like growing may be a bit more complicated if so.
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If the November bill gets passed, what does that mean for us growers?
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naimad1234
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tax and regulate isn't supposed to affect the mmj 215 program
ninjagaiden
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From what i can tell, this would limit growers to a 25 sqft space. Any truth?
researchkitty
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More people will smoke because its legal, causing prices to go up or stay stead in the near future, and as long as more growers dont pop up everywhere, pricing should remain the same. You'll still have black market and grey market though, those that choose to buy at a dispensary or their local dealer. The law just makes it more confusing of what is what and imposes some unique limitations. I dont think you'll see every mom & pop growing weed to smoke or sell, those who wanted to grow probably already do and the new folks who will now that its legal will help supply the extra demand from those who will now "choose" to smoke when the bill passes.
MAc DRe
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I agree on everything except i think there will be a huge growth in the amount of people that grow marijuana. If it's legal people are going to grow it just because they can, and see what they can do. If it becomes legal in november The quality in the pot is going to down dramatically, because their will be so many new growers. You will still have to go to a store to get the quality we are used to now. As people gain experience growing after about 5-10 years the quality will go back up and start seeing 40-50% thc content eventually. Also just my two cents, the bill is going to pass in november, but it going to take a few years for the people to have some control. The first couple years that it is legal the government is going to be in charge and limit us to 5x5 ft grow area and posses one ounce. The limits that they are talking about are a joke, 5x5 grow area is like two good outdoor plants, and if you can only posses an ounce(like a weeks worth maybe) you will have to be going to the store and buy more which who makes all the money the government. Time will change everything. Peace out
Warrentheape
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I could not disagree with you more
rd116
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please enlighten me....
NLXSK1
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cleverusrname
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i was told we would need to buy a liscence to grow and i heard it was rather expensive
No I believe it is places that want to sell to persons 21 and over. So 7-11 and the liquor store need a permit to sell cannabis, just like they do tobacco or alcohol.
PuffinPurp
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ya, if it becomes legal 2 grow i belive every1 will start 2 grow. i dont nesscarly belive quality will go down as much as u think, every1 will still have ''dank'' weed 2 sell (as in ur reg dealers) but ull see a huge increase in reggies and low mids. thus good weed will go up in price and reggies will drop drasticly. just my oppion on it.
happy growin
happy growin
BrockSampson
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so on the ballot for november is the newly renamed TAX AND CONTROL act. (used to be called tax and regulate.)
once it passes it will be legal for anyone OVER THE AGE OF 21 to have an ounce on their person at all times in public.
MAKING IT LEGAL WITHOUT TOUCHING OR AFFECTING PROP 215 or its patients in any way, other then hopefully dropping the price.
so heres my breakdown
Public consumption wont be allowed , you will have to be in a privately maintained residence or club
(just like alcohol no drinking in the street)
for growing you will be allowed a 25 foot canopy space (5x5)and if you can grow a hundred pounds theres no law on the limit you can have in your private dwelling (house), if you can grow 100 pounds you can leave it at home, you would just have to pick the prettiest ounce when you decide to go for a walk.
right now im seeing alot of opposition from people who are using loopholes in the medical law to grow for profit.
people who want to keep the current prohibition around so they can continue to play pirates and get fat off inflated prices.
if it were legal and there were commercial grow opportunities, they would be at the behest of the city or county,
there would be committees and boards set up to regulate how many/ how big. i hear people saying dont legalize it, its going to cut into my profits as a grower, well to them i say tough. These laws were set up to help sick people who need it, not to help people abuse legislature under the guise of a do-gooder. If they feel that strongly about it they can petition their cities to try and work with the law.
no one is saying these grow opportunities have to be huge things either, if we get involved we can have cities set up a bigger number of smaller sized licensed gardens as opposed to a few gigantic ones.
and just think once its legal, we can set up programs to subsidize taxes generated from commercial sales to make programs that would give free top shelf medicine to the people who really truly need it as medicine but cant afford the good stuff.
once it passes it will be legal for anyone OVER THE AGE OF 21 to have an ounce on their person at all times in public.
MAKING IT LEGAL WITHOUT TOUCHING OR AFFECTING PROP 215 or its patients in any way, other then hopefully dropping the price.
so heres my breakdown
Public consumption wont be allowed , you will have to be in a privately maintained residence or club
(just like alcohol no drinking in the street)
for growing you will be allowed a 25 foot canopy space (5x5)and if you can grow a hundred pounds theres no law on the limit you can have in your private dwelling (house), if you can grow 100 pounds you can leave it at home, you would just have to pick the prettiest ounce when you decide to go for a walk.
right now im seeing alot of opposition from people who are using loopholes in the medical law to grow for profit.
people who want to keep the current prohibition around so they can continue to play pirates and get fat off inflated prices.
if it were legal and there were commercial grow opportunities, they would be at the behest of the city or county,
there would be committees and boards set up to regulate how many/ how big. i hear people saying dont legalize it, its going to cut into my profits as a grower, well to them i say tough. These laws were set up to help sick people who need it, not to help people abuse legislature under the guise of a do-gooder. If they feel that strongly about it they can petition their cities to try and work with the law.
no one is saying these grow opportunities have to be huge things either, if we get involved we can have cities set up a bigger number of smaller sized licensed gardens as opposed to a few gigantic ones.
and just think once its legal, we can set up programs to subsidize taxes generated from commercial sales to make programs that would give free top shelf medicine to the people who really truly need it as medicine but cant afford the good stuff.
businessmen
Active Member
When would the law go into effect? Coulndt find that info
cleverusrname
Member
the thing im afraid of though is the commercial growers that will start coming up. whats to stop them from putting tons of chemicals and crap in it just like they do to ciggaretes?
BrockSampson
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people like you and me hopefully.
Katatawnic
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I'll believe that when I see it actually happen. Since 215 was voted in 1996, there's been talk about just this being done, but the problem is finding those that are willing to do it. Everybody wants a piece of the pie. Which is fine, but I can't stand the "promise makers" that don't make good on their promises. We don't even get help in obtaining the crappy stuff.
When your total monthly income is $845 strictly due to disability, I'd say that merits help, wouldn't you?Anyhow, for those who are worrying that medical users/growers will be effected by this initiative, we won't be. This measure is for recreational use; medical use laws will remain the same.
PuffinPurp
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i c ur point, but hopefully every1 will stay true to the all natural roots. besides that the consumer wont want 2 buy weed if its chemicalized. i no i wouldn, i would prob be growing my own ne ways.
does any1 no where this law will effect? is it a nation wide law or just ment for certian states.
does any1 no where this law will effect? is it a nation wide law or just ment for certian states.
MAc DRe
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It's for California only, but other states will follow not too long after California(which is always first for everything)legalizes it this November(It's going to pass without a doubt)
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