afrawfraw
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Don't bother typing popular ideas, I know most and can research any I'm not familiar with. (After all, I'm not claiming to know EVERYTHINGlol afrawfraw. you see i blame you for putting me at the front line of that cannon. no no xylazine for me, just a few words and a deep breath.
MINDP: i replied to your question in a short sentence that you might have missed in one of my long ass posts.
it went sumthin like this.
"im not gona answer that Q, no offence" and the answer is simple though complicated and im not interested in any more retarded comments from others with no brains is another reason why i didnt answer it.
kushman:
"Religious people have killed others over their victims non-acceptance of these 'holy books', muslim, christian, Judaic ect.ect"
{i accept what your saying on a certain level but dont be mistaken to think that Islam is one of them. you might wanna check}
To that person that made this comment previously asking if Islam is monotheistic, and proposing smart comments like whats We and Us. the answer is sooooo simple i wont bother. but a hint would be Royal We of Power, plural of respect comes to mind.
afrawfraw i aint forgot about ur answer i just havent had time yet, i kind of have a life too you know.lol
peacee.
)Keep it short, I'll follow...
420 is an angry ass mofo, so if blaming me helps, go for it. But you had it coming, no fault of your own, you see...
afrawfraw
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Scientists are on the verge of discovering a missing link that bridges mathematical physics...And would explain how matter exhists...And how it can come...well...from nothing...
According to scientists, the visible portions of the universe account for less than 95 percent of what is actually out there in the great expanse of space.
As George Takei would say, "Oh, my!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Exceptionally_Simple_Theory_of_Everything
"Oh,my!"
mindphuk
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Since no one has claimed to know why and how the universe actually started, and no one has put forth the argument that it was accidental, you are arguing with yourself, your own made up opponent. This is the classical straw man argument.
What do you think was there before?
What a fucking stupid question. Location is meaningless without space to define it. That should be obvious to anyone with a pulse and at least 2 neurons and a synapse.
It doesn't take any brains to realize that if the universe didn't exist, then it wasn't located anywhere. OTOH, if the universe always existed, it is 'located' in the same place it is located now.
I don't know, do you ?
without an existing universe, asking about time and space is pretty meaningless considering there was no time or space prior to the universe.
As opposed to what? With your theory, you seem to believe that shit just popped out of nowhere from nothing because a god that didn't live anywhere or anytime says magical incantations.
Actually, I don't believe everything just popped out of nowhere from nothing even though it is reasonable considering that in our universe, empty space is teaming with particles that just pop into existence from nowhere. Look up vacuum energy something that is absolutely real and observable.
The big bang is NOT a theory about the creation of the universe, it is merely a model of what happened when a small, hot, dense universe that already existed expanded very rapidly for some reason. The universe could have existed for eternity. The universe could have bubbled or pinched off of another universe. The universe could be the result of collisions of branes. The universe could be the result of a supernatural being speaking it into existence. I don't know and neither does anyone else. Science doesn't claim to know the answer. Religious followers DO claim to know the answer. Isn't claiming to know something that can't be known the definition of arrogance?
Not so sure about that. You have a lot of votes on this forum for being the most brainless individual in existence.
Still having problems understanding the definition of fact I see. Claiming to know something as fact without any proof and rejecting other possible solutions. What is the definition of close minded again?
It bears repeating. I don't think, nor have I claimed that everything was an accident.
Since your brain doesn't to work well, and can't follow basic logic, isn't that evidence that there isn't a god?
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afrawfraw
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Intelligent Design Theory is speculation at best. Let me explain. When you see the universe as "Harmonious" you are viewing the universe through OUR METHODS OF SCIENCE!!! Just because our Mathematics relate everything doesn't mean that is how it was created. You are assuming that the Pink Flying Unicorn uses OUR methods of analyzing the universe, which goes against your own doctrines claiming we do not have the ability to conceive GODS ways...
In summation, if you believe we have an understanding of the universe, you must believe we are approaching the same awareness as GOD. (Religion says FUCK NO!)
If you believe we do NOT have an understanding of the universe, than you acknowledge that you have insufficient evidence to draw a conclusion, and furthermore, to prove any such being exists.
I fear Religion because I have knowledge. Just ask Dick!
"Oh,my!"
In summation, if you believe we have an understanding of the universe, you must believe we are approaching the same awareness as GOD. (Religion says FUCK NO!)
If you believe we do NOT have an understanding of the universe, than you acknowledge that you have insufficient evidence to draw a conclusion, and furthermore, to prove any such being exists.
I fear Religion because I have knowledge. Just ask Dick!
"Oh,my!"
afrawfraw
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This ties into the collider in Geneva that someone was mentioning a few hundred posts back...Do try and keep up.
LOL! That is my kind of humor. And if anyone gets mad over such a statement... I will roundhouse-kick them to the face. JK I am a pacifist.
TrippyReefer
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Why cant we just imagine God as a spritual power infinitly greater than our minds can comprehend. He exists in this universe through nature and people. He allows another evil entity existance in our realm and most interactions between these powers come to pass through human beings. We are like portals, doesnt it make sense that good and bad vibes and emotions exist within ourselves? Isnt it good to just share the love of God through us and our friends and try to correct the evil thinkings of others? I think herb helps us feel spiritual energies in ourselves and others. Oh, and i think the big bang the first day that God decided to make our universe and play around with other life forms, including us 
Maybe the tree of life was a rather large cannibis plant? haha please dont judge and have a good toke
Maybe the tree of life was a rather large cannibis plant? haha please dont judge and have a good toke
pinxpointxpupil
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LOL FUCKING JIHAD!!!!!!!
I'm an athiest, the original post was fuckin nuts....like put it this way What other ideas were good 2000 years ago??? the world was flat????
watch zeitgeist, learn about ancient religions and how they are all modeled after another with all those "Christian" traits....not original...
I'm an athiest, the original post was fuckin nuts....like put it this way What other ideas were good 2000 years ago??? the world was flat????
watch zeitgeist, learn about ancient religions and how they are all modeled after another with all those "Christian" traits....not original...
TrippyReefer
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Dude, its not about religion. Its about spirituality, and if you dont believe it you might as well be dead inside. Even Darwin and einstein believed in God, so suck on that truth
Babs34
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I was thinking more along the line of this:[video=youtube;linp-2GRboo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=linp-2GRboo&feature=related[/video]
blazin256
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[FONT=Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, san-serif]"A rock thrown into a pond causes a ripple that moves out from the central point of impact. In a way, then, the ripples as they move farther out can be compared to "second hand knowledge." Religions of any types, with their dogma and creeds and checklists of belief, live on the ripples and not at the center."
thats something from a website ive been reading up on. science still doesn't have all the answers. hell they cant even plug a damn hole at the bottom of the ocean.
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thats something from a website ive been reading up on. science still doesn't have all the answers. hell they cant even plug a damn hole at the bottom of the ocean.
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afrawfraw
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Because I personally refuse to use my imagination to draw conclusions...Why cant we just imagine God as a spritual power infinitly greater than our minds can comprehend. He exists in this universe through nature and people. He allows another evil entity existance in our realm and most interactions between these powers come to pass through human beings. We are like portals, doesnt it make sense that good and bad vibes and emotions exist within ourselves? Isnt it good to just share the love of God through us and our friends and try to correct the evil thinkings of others? I think herb helps us feel spiritual energies in ourselves and others. Oh, and i think the big bang the first day that God decided to make our universe and play around with other life forms, including us
afrawfraw
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Science is progressive. Science will eventually find the rock at the bottom of the pond. Religion is not. Religion will wait on the ripples and then twist the meaning of their literature to coincide with scientific findings...
And we could plug that whole easily, but that doesn't make dollars, so it doesn't make sense...
afrawfraw
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dickdasterdly666
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lol as i read more and more, i feel like this isnt really a debate or exchange but more like a "who can kick harder" comp.
afrawfraw i feel like a lil mouse thats shy to cough up another word or even present/reply to what i was going to initially, i think im going to drop out of this thread all together
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though im not gona lie, iv found even more meaning and depth into my belief because of it. hehe.
time to go to gym, ill try and return.
afrawfraw i feel like a lil mouse thats shy to cough up another word or even present/reply to what i was going to initially, i think im going to drop out of this thread all together
.though im not gona lie, iv found even more meaning and depth into my belief because of it. hehe.
time to go to gym, ill try and return.
Leothwyn
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It's been interesting at points, but mostly it's not much of a debate anymore. I'm sure it doesn't help much that people like you throw out a bunch of crap, and when you don't like the replies, you just tell people that you're too smart to respond to someone so below yourself.
I liked the video. Here it is from youtube...
I loved the statistics in response to the general idea that atheists are bad people:
- 75% of US population are christian.
- 75% of US prison population are christian.
- 10% of US population are atheist.
- .2% of US prison population are atheist.
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TrippyReefer
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Well i wouldnt say that. There are many atheist intellectuals out there, but they just chose the secular road and are misguided. Im sure some of them still think about heaven and hell and thats normal because our consciousness is a gift from God. "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding" Proverbs 3:5
Btw, i am not religious
mindphuk
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Science is about knowledge, not about the things that are derived from the knowledge. Science might very well say that we don't have existing technology that can plug that hole. Science isn't going to come up with an answer just because you think there actually is an answer. That in no way should ever be an indictment of science. That's just a less extreme way of saying science doesn't have all the answers, hell they can't even make transporters like in Star Trek.
Science =/= technology.
Science is about knowledge, not about the things that are derived from the knowledge. Science might very well say that we don't have existing technology that can plug that hole. Science isn't going to come up with an answer just because you think there actually is an answer. That in no way should ever be an indictment of science. That's just a less extreme way of saying science doesn't have all the answers, hell they can't even make transporters like in Star Trek.