Well... What is the Problem Here?!?!?! PICS +reps 4 answers!

[LadyKimi]

These guys are 1 week from popping soil. They were looking amazing until early this afternoon when I noticed some yellow in 1 of the leaf sets, by this evening they were looking like this!
I was using sunshine mix #8 mixed with Perlite but my PH was reading just over 8 so I assume thats what is causing the problem. What I didn't know was how to get the PH down and the nice lady at the garden store convinced hubby that transplanting into straight Pro-Mix seedling & potting was our best choice for stabilizing my girls...

Anyone wanna confirm that this is simply PH or offer other suggestions? I can't imagine how I got a PH problem 1 week in. I was using Tap water sat out for min 48 hours PHd at between 5.7-6.5

 

[reefacheefa]

well if your ph is over 8, then you gotta ph problem lol. you can lower it wit plain white vinegar, but use VERY small amounts til you get the right 6.5-7

 

[420pitbull]

They dont look all that bad to me, are you using any nutritions yet or just plain water that sat out for 48 hours? I can't tell from the post but did you do the transplant or not?

 

[SSHZ]

Any yellowing can be caused by not maintaining a steady pH. Move it around alot and plants yellow. I use Pro-mix and have for 20+ years. I always add dolimitic lime and perlite to the mix. It tends to condense in the pot over time- perlite helps keep the soil loose. The mix will also go acidic (low pH) over time- additional lime helps keep the pH up...... Give it a few days and things will get better. Buy a pH meter or your results will be poor..........

 

[nailz92002]

ok I Had the same problem except my ladies were in a DWC (hydro) setup. It was pH nute lock out. What you see is Nitrogen deficiency. For Hydro its kinda easy to adjust the pH. With soil however its a little bit more complicated but still pretty easy

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1.determine how best to adjust the pH level. If the soil is too basic (loamy), then you'll want to add lime. If the soil is too acidic then you'll want to add sulfur.

2.Know the general proportions of either compound you should add to your soil, as well as their relative effects. For example, 4 ounces of lime will raise the pH of 1 square yard of soil by 1.0. Conversely, 5 or 6 ounces of sulfur will reduce the pH level by 1.

3.Introduce those compounds to your soil. It's important to spread it through the soil and not pile it in one spot. If you pile the compounds in one spot then it will end up having a disproportionate amount of either. Use a spreader or even just a shovel to distribute the lime or sulfur evenly.

4.Till your garden soil. Tilling the soil will help to mix the pH balancing compounds deeply into the soil to where the roots will grow.

5.Take additional soil samples throughout the growing season. Start two weeks after the introduction of pH compounds, and then again at one month and two months. This will tell you whether you need to make further adjustments to your soil or if it's just right.

6. Take additional soil samples throughout the growing season. Start two weeks after the introduction of pH compounds, and then again at one month and two months. This will tell you whether you need to make further adjustments to your soil or if it's just right.

I hope this helped you.

Peace and positive energy to you

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[i.NeeD.A.LiGhTeR]

Looks fine, don't worry she'll be doing great given time.

The more "problems" you try to fix, the more will occur. I've never checked my PH, my girls couldn't care less!

 

[makin green]

leave them alone they look good. i lots my first grow because i was always trying to do something to make them better when they were fine.. goodluck

 

[Chef Haz3]

i.NeeD.A.LiGhTeR , you never check ur ph , but what are u using to water ? hard tap water ? distilled water ? rain water from the amazon... ?

 

[nailz92002]

or don't check your soil pH.

Bottom line is you know your grow better than anyone here in cyberspace does. Take advice from these boards with a grain of salt. Do what you think is the right thing to do. I offered a suggestion because I had a similar problem. Take it or leave it. It's no skin off my nose. But let me ask you this what is it going to hurt to "TEST" ur soil? Ok so you test ur soil and its fine. NO harm no foul and you put your mind at ease. But lets just imagine for a second that your soil does come up as imbalanced. Are you going to let it stay that way or will you try to adjust it down or up depending? I dont know about you but I would do everything in my power to fix a problem that was with my ability to do so. Just my opinion. Hope this helped.

Peace and positive energy to you

 

[i.NeeD.A.LiGhTeR]

i.NeeD.A.LiGhTeR , you never check ur ph , but what are u using to water ? hard tap water ? distilled water ? rain water from the amazon... ?

Water straight from the tap, I use to live in the city and used regular tap water also. Never had a problem that was caused from too high or low pH in my experience.

 

[LadyKimi]

Thanks for everything ya'll.... We moved the girls into the Pro-mix Last night, although I doubt they will get all green as fast as they got the yellow, I am hoping 4 the best.

I read a long thread the other day where one of the "Pros" of the boards( FDD something) does not check PH at all and never has either....

 

[cowboylogic]

I never check ph either. And the only way to properly test a mediums ph is by testing the medium itself. Runoff ph actually tells you very little. And in some cases may have you trying too correct a problem that does not even exist. Thus causing more issues.

 

[Brick Top]

I read a long thread the other day where one of the "Pros" of the boards( FDD something) does not check PH at all and never has either....

Everyone's situation can be different. If someone lives in an area with acidic water and they do not treat it each time they water the acidity level of their soil will increase. When nutrients are added it the acidity level can of course naturally increase slowly over time. Like some others I have lived in areas where acidic water is not a problem and I used a quality growing medium and I never had to be concerned about pH levels. At the most when about to harvest the pH might have by then gotten slightly off but not enough to be a problem. Other times, like now, I have lived in areas with water that was so acidic it would almost melt steel over time so I either have to use water from another source and or check my pH levels fairly often.

When dealing with pH levels it is always better to be more cautious rather than less cautious and it is a mistake to do what someone else does just because it works for them. Under their conditions it might very well work great but under your conditions you might lose a crop emulating what someone else does.

One key to becoming a skilled grower is to head problems off at the pass, do whatever it takes to make sure you do not have to deal with problems that can be avoided. Far too many believe that skill is more defined by being knowledgeable in how to diagnose plant problems and properly deal with them. That is of course important but the more skilled growers will check their conditions often and regulate them so they will be far less likely to later have to diagnose and alter things due to problems cropping up.

 

[LadyKimi]

When dealing with pH levels it is always better to be more cautious rather than less cautious and it is a mistake to do what someone else does just because it works for them. Under their conditions it might very well work great but under your conditions you might lose a crop emulating what someone else does.

One key to becoming a skilled grower is to head problems off at the pass, do whatever it takes to make sure you do not have to deal with problems that can be avoided. Far too many believe that skill is more defined by being knowledgeable in how to diagnose plant problems and properly deal with them. That is of course important but the more skilled growers will check their conditions often and regulate them so they will be far less likely to later have to diagnose and alter things due to problems cropping up.

I was not suggesting that I was not going to continue to check PH because someone else doesn't. I just found it interesting.

Heading a problem off at the pass is exactly what I am trying to do. I am trying to figure out why, almost overnight, my PH would go wonky with 1 week old plants and no added nutes and neutral PH water only used in what is considered to be a pretty good soil....

 

[shannonball]

looks fine to me

 

[SSHZ]

Xxxxooooooo