how old is to old for seeds? in need of help

hi there iv got a back log or seed ranging for 10 years to 1 day, how many years can yoruseeds last for?, i have some seeds from strans that you no longer can get, but there old.... dose any one have a clue how long to long...... thanks
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Buddreams

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DO NOT FREEZE YOUR SEEDS EVER!! Seeds kept in deep freeze are done so in a particular way as to hold the moisture inside the seed that already exists. Your freezer will cause the moisture to leak out due to slight thaw and de-thaw from temperature flux.
 

theexpress

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DO NOT FREEZE YOUR SEEDS EVER!! Seeds kept in deep freeze are done so in a particular way as to hold the moisture inside the seed that already exists. Your freezer will cause the moisture to leak out due to slight thaw and de-thaw from temperature flux.

lol w/e man ive wrapped seeds up in the corner of a sandwich baggie, tied it like you would a dime bag or gram or w/e and put them in a pill bottle then into the freezer... left them there close to a year only and took them out and popped them...most germed
 

GoldenGanja13

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DO NOT FREEZE YOUR SEEDS EVER!! Seeds kept in deep freeze are done so in a particular way as to hold the moisture inside the seed that already exists. Your freezer will cause the moisture to leak out due to slight thaw and de-thaw from temperature flux.
I agree 100% with Buddreams. :joint:
 

theexpress

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How many growers do you know besides "you" that freeze seeds ?

thats beside the point... buddy has a good point on how temp fluxes lowwer germ rates... the fact still is that if you keep your beans dry, and air tight, and you plan on useing them asll at once once there thawed you wont have any issues... peace... its like were both right... but your more on the wrong side for saying they cant be frozen period golden... the other guy knows it can be done
 

GoldenGanja13

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ROFLAO. The reason I say never freeze seeds is not because it can not be done, it is done more than you realize, but one must completely dry their seeds. And thats a whole new process.
thats beside the point... buddy has a good point on how temp fluxes lowwer germ rates... the fact still is that if you keep your beans dry, and air tight, and you plan on useing them asll at once once there thawed you wont have any issues... peace... its like were both right... but your more on the wrong side for saying they cant be frozen period golden... the other guy knows it can be done
 

theexpress

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ROFLAO. The reason I say never freeze seeds is not because it can not be done, it is done more than you realize, but one must completely dry their seeds. And thats a whole new process.
you know i was just getting to like you man.... its done more then i realize??? what ever bro lol.. why you backtracking for now. saying it can be done? what do you mean drying??? its more about storage!!! if you want you can package them in a bottle or jar with disiccant.. but its not needed has long has they are in an airtight bag in a pill bottle dry
 

zeroflash

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iv read threads about people who have kept seeds from when they were in veitnam 40 years ago and have grown very nice plants
 

GoldenGanja13

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Not Back tracking , just keeping simpletons like yourself from making mistakes I.E. QUOTE=theexpress; what do you mean drying??? its more about storage!!! QUOTE
 

Brick Top

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DO NOT FREEZE YOUR SEEDS EVER!! Seeds kept in deep freeze are done so in a particular way as to hold the moisture inside the seed that already exists. Your freezer will cause the moisture to leak out due to slight thaw and de-thaw from temperature flux.
Short term freezing, if well sealed, is not only not a problem but it can be beneficial for germination, or at least in some cases. It better mimics the sesonal transition some seeds would experience in nature.

An acquaintance who is also in the nursery business learned about freezing seeds for a week to two weeks prior to germinating them and then placing them in a refrigerator for a slow thaw and then germinating them from a botany Prof. at NC State University and tried it. I do not recall all the numbers but he germinated 1000 seeds the first try, obviously not cannabis seeds, and he had the best germination percentage he ever had, very close to 100%. Subsequent attempt results were virtually the same.

I would have to question the usefulness of freezing seeds that were from landrace strains from regions where it does not freeze but considering the large number of other strains from regions that do have freezing temperatures and the large number of crossed strains that have higher percentages of strains from cold weather areas it would only be logical that properly freezing those types of seeds for the short term would not only not be of any risk but likely could be beneficial.

But for long term storage freezing could be risky. As mentioned they will eventually dry out and for what it would take to stop that from occurring would be difficult for most people to do.
 

tyke1973

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I persananly would not advice freezing a seed the fridge is a far better option,There is a chance that a seed at 10 year will germanate but the seed will have gone through temp flux and all kind a stuff if not stored at a regulated tem just pop em on a wet towl and see if they split.
 

Brick Top

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Just a bit of seed longevity triva regards a type of Canna seed. (NOT cannabis seeds. Cannabis is now said to be a member of the hops (Humulus sp.) genus rather than with nettles in the family Urticaceae which is part of the family Moraceae.) It is rather amazing and not that it will be of use to anyone but it does show how long seeds can remain viable if they are in what has to be optimal or near optimal conditions. How they remained viable is amazing.


Although the most sensational claims for seed longevity are almost certainly bogus, seeds of Canna compacta apparently can live for at least 600 years. Viable Canna seeds were obtained from inside a walnut in a tomb in Argentina. The Canna seeds had apparently been inserted into the immature seeds of a growing walnut fruit before the hard outer shell formed. Once the shell hardened and the nut dried out, the result was a rattle. Native people strung the rattles together to form a necklace. In this case, the seeds had to be at least as old as the walnut shell, and carbon dating of the shell indicated that it was about 600 years old (Bewley and Black 1994).
 

SSHZ

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I refridgerate, never freeze my pot/seeds. It all seems to do better, IMO. Very old seeds sprouting will mostly depend on how they are taken care of. I've had 8 year old seeds sprout, but not the majority. Fresher is better, obviously.
 
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