morfin56
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yea, easily obtained.I guess these are phalaris grasses
nah although that would be very great.
Making DMT, my log.
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ANC
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Sorry , I didn't see your question.
You generaly "shouldn't" evap naphta for DMT.
We rather freeze percipitate crytals and pour left over naphta back into the bark tea for more extractions as the naphta still contains trace amounts that would be wasted otherwise. Not to mention the cost of solvents and environmental impact of just burning through the stuff. When you poured off the naphta, the bowl goes back into the freezer for a few minutes to get cold again, else crystals will start to melt in the capilary captured naphta.
By the time it comes out most of that would have evaped...into your freezer, yummy. Then just a few more minutes under a gentle fan and they are ready to smoke, I prefer airing them out for a day or so nevertheless.
morfin56
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nope, a local friend that lives on a farm (he's a wheat farmer) plowed his unused feild that had a bunch of it growing, with his wheat-gathering-machine. he gave me a large amount of it, then i seperated the phalaris from the other weeds. from there i sepereated the top of the plants from the bottom stems and then grinded all the top peaces.Did you spend money for this grasses?I remember this plant from my toxicology lesson books,it's dangerous for farm animals when they eat phalaris they do some wierd things like pedaling and running while lying on the ground...but these effects are usually temporary
i'm going to freeze percip this since i have such a large quantity. i'm not very concerned for the cost of the things needed and evaping them, but freeze percip seems much better anyway.
Shaggy 2 Dope
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How much would it cost one to make just a little bit of this? Also I've heard that you can just grab some grass or bark from your back yard and you'll be able to make it. Is this true?
By the way, I don't know if all people do this, but I've heard that people use paint thinner to bring out the DMT from the chemicals. I'm guessing that when the DMT freezes and the thinner doesn't you'll pour out all of the paint thinner, but none gets into the actual DMT does it? Because I don't wanna be taking that shit in lol...
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By the way, I don't know if all people do this, but I've heard that people use paint thinner to bring out the DMT from the chemicals. I'm guessing that when the DMT freezes and the thinner doesn't you'll pour out all of the paint thinner, but none gets into the actual DMT does it? Because I don't wanna be taking that shit in lol...
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ANC
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I guess you are talking of a xylene extraction. Even then its not realy an issue as the substance goes through several solid to liquid steps before you reach the final product. It does have a slightly solventy smell though.
Cleanest extractions are generaly with dlimolene (orange oil, its basicaly that stuff that comes out of an orange peel and ignites if you sqeeze it over a lighter flame), as it is foodsafe. Downside is you don't get crystals unless you recrystalise using a solvent like Heptane or something anyway, so its not realy suitable for makeing larger quantities for storage. Forget the other trees and shit in your garden, they may contain trace amounts but also potentialy contain lots of other nasty alkaloids. Put $20 down and order up some bark, you'd need to spend no more than an extra fiver to get to the end product.
Cleanest extractions are generaly with dlimolene (orange oil, its basicaly that stuff that comes out of an orange peel and ignites if you sqeeze it over a lighter flame), as it is foodsafe. Downside is you don't get crystals unless you recrystalise using a solvent like Heptane or something anyway, so its not realy suitable for makeing larger quantities for storage. Forget the other trees and shit in your garden, they may contain trace amounts but also potentialy contain lots of other nasty alkaloids. Put $20 down and order up some bark, you'd need to spend no more than an extra fiver to get to the end product.
Shaggy 2 Dope
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This is fine as I'm not looking to sell it or store it since it's so much more illegal than most drugs. But with the orange oil, will it be as potent as if you made it crystallized (if not more potent)
EDIT - Also, is it a bad thing to buy pre-grinded Mimosa bark or anything like that, since shipping shouldn't be suspicious because painters use it to make natural paint (Pink paint I think lol)
ANC
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DMT is DMT, you don't get potent and less potent, although with dlimolene, being a strong solvent you also pull other alkaloids, commonly called jungle spice (the red goo), this can be seperated further again with acetone washes.
Jungle spice is pretty dark stuf, not alot of people handle it well. I like white spice the best as its lightest on the chest, and I'm a heavy smoker, so the dirtier DMT can realy kick me in the chest.
Another downside to jungle spice is that it is a semi liquid and thus hard to weigh... think sticky earwax.
Erm, well there certainly is a risk with buying powder, but then again you probably wouldn't know what real bark looks like either. Just use it quickly as I find the bark yields reduce once grinded and stored.
Jungle spice is pretty dark stuf, not alot of people handle it well. I like white spice the best as its lightest on the chest, and I'm a heavy smoker, so the dirtier DMT can realy kick me in the chest.
Another downside to jungle spice is that it is a semi liquid and thus hard to weigh... think sticky earwax.
Erm, well there certainly is a risk with buying powder, but then again you probably wouldn't know what real bark looks like either. Just use it quickly as I find the bark yields reduce once grinded and stored.
Shaggy 2 Dope
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So d'limolene makes better quality dmt, but it's more harsh as smoke? If it's really that bad to smoke, I'll stick to lighter fluid or something
morfin56
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I was wondering about jungle spice if i understood correctly it has more, different alkaloids? does this mean it would have a different high? Longer? More intense? I'm also wondering if it can get to cold during a freeze percip... I just bought a commercial grade -50 degrees F freezer. going to test it out TODAY! will take pics.
ANC
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you can read more about jungle spice on dmt-nexus. Its a similar high in being mostly DMT, but the other alkaloids tend to bring darker experiences, with darker thoughts, visions etc. Some people like it, we are all wired diffirently.
That freezer should be awesome, but I'd cool down in the fridge first then normal freezer and then the cold monster. The realy good stuff starts happening from -20C.
I wouldn't even let harsh smoke put me off, and it isn't realy harsh unless you do a very careless extraction, skipping steps to get your solvent clean as possible of bark tea.
If you can get a good lung full and hold it for 20 seconds, you probably won't know you have lungs anymore.
That freezer should be awesome, but I'd cool down in the fridge first then normal freezer and then the cold monster. The realy good stuff starts happening from -20C.
I wouldn't even let harsh smoke put me off, and it isn't realy harsh unless you do a very careless extraction, skipping steps to get your solvent clean as possible of bark tea.
If you can get a good lung full and hold it for 20 seconds, you probably won't know you have lungs anymore.
morfin56
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already have and today is its third day soaking. going to start the extraction today.
also i tried the freezer out and it froze a bannana solid in less than 5 mins. the thing was rock hard. wow now that i read what i wrote it sounds a little perverted...
morfin56
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thats great ANC you have been a lot of help on this thread, and i was wondering two more things..you can read more about jungle spice on dmt-nexus. Its a similar high in being mostly DMT, but the other alkaloids tend to bring darker experiences, with darker thoughts, visions etc. Some people like it, we are all wired diffirently.
That freezer should be awesome, but I'd cool down in the fridge first then normal freezer and then the cold monster. The realy good stuff starts happening from -20C.
I wouldn't even let harsh smoke put me off, and it isn't realy harsh unless you do a very careless extraction, skipping steps to get your solvent clean as possible of bark tea.
If you can get a good lung full and hold it for 20 seconds, you probably won't know you have lungs anymore.
is draino a good base if you cant find lye. i've asked a lot of store managers and they say they took it down for legal purposes.
also taking DMT while drunk? is it any different? should i not do it? gave you rep twice in the past few days and will give more next time possible!
gogrow
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I'm having the same problem.... you DONT want drano.... you need pure lye. I've yet to go check it out, but i've found online that Lowe's sells "roebic drain opener" which is pure lye.... if not, find an Ace hardware and they should have it.
morfin56
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looks like im going to have to look for another drain cleaner.. now im gonna use the drano for what its really used for. you sure there is now way of getting those impurities out, damn stubbornness.
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http://www.dudadiesel.com/choose_item.php?id=2drhdl 2 pounds of 100% pure naoh for $5.00.. holla atcho boy
gogrow
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I appreciate it, but have been trying to get locally rather than by mail..... i get enough fucked up shit through the mail as is.
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