Please help! dont know what is wrong with my babys. (PICS)

mlore

mlore

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hey people

ive had some problems with my girls for the last week or so. im not to sure what it could be. ive got these orange/bronze colour spots on the leaves. the bottom fan leaves are loosing colour but i think that is normal? there is some discoulouration aswell. like the leaves have white spots in some areas. on a few of the bottom leaves they have lost the tip also.

they are about 1 month and a half old. outdoors in the uk. all from bagseed. 2 thai. and the other 2 some dank indica strain haha. not to sure. also they are about 1 half foot may 2 im not to sure.

i also have another problem (kinda) i was just looking at my girls for their daily inspection and i noticed that 2 of them have started to flower. there are tiny tiny pistils at the very top nodes. onle like 4 pistils on each of them. but it is still july and in the uk we still have about 15-16 hours of sunlight. so i dont get why they are flowering. i dont mind. but will they still be okay? and also they are not as tall as i wanted them yet. but if they come out nice i suppose i wont really mind just an early harvest and i little lower yeild.

sorry for writing so much. just stoned and getting into it.

please help a brother out guys, cheers. peace :joint:

82 views and only 10 comments. no ideas then? co mon please.
 

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cannabis420420

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Leaf-eating caterpillars are less difficult to detect than budworms because they spend most of their time on leaves. They often manipulate leaves before eating them; their feeding habits include eating small sections of leaf in between leaf veins, or eating large chunks of leaf outright.


Mite
Although healthy root zones and leaves often contain beneficial fungi and bacteria, other forms of fungi and bacteria are damaging to cannabis plants.

The most pervasive fungal invader is botrytis, otherwise known as gray mold. This fungus is particularly dangerous because it is virtually undetectable in early stages, and because it attacks the ripest, phattest buds from the
inside out.

Botrytis waits until cannabis flowers are dense and well developed, then it infests the buds near the core of the flower at stem level, and quickly produces gray garbage that destroys the bud's vigor and appearance. Gray mold and other pathogens can also affect harvested cannabis, even when harvested material is placed in a freezer.


Gray mold causes problems indoors and outdoors, particularly where humidity levels are above 50%, with poor aeration of plant tops. Downy mildew is almost as prevalent as gray mold, although it causes less damage and is harder to detect. It originally appears as faint whitish or yellowish spots on leaf tops, with corresponding bumps on the undersides of leaves. Leaves curl up and mutate as the mildew takes hold.

Powdery mildew is not downy mildew; it first appears as small bumps on the top of leaves; soon, the leaves look like they are covered in dusty grit. In some cases, powdery mildew can superficially resemble resin glands.

"Damping off" molds attack marijuana seeds before and after they have been planted. The molds also attack emergent seedlings and seedlings that have attained as much as six inches in height. Damping off can keep marijuana seeds from sprouting at all. Or, they kill sprouts by rotting their stems at the base.

Viruses and bacteria

Viruses affect plants, not just people, and some viruses can jump from people to plants and back again. Among the most prevalent cannabis viruses are "streak" and "mosaic" viruses that cause swirling white and yellow discolorations on leaves. The discolorations are almost artistic, but soon, the leaves wilt.

Several species of bacteria also attack cannabis. Most of these bacteria manifest themselves as "blight" diseases that create spots on leaves, wilting, rotting, weak stems, and rapid decay of harvested material.
 
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cannabis420420

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cannabis420420 said:
Leaf-eating caterpillars are less difficult to detect than budworms because they spend most of their time on leaves. They often manipulate leaves before eating them; their feeding habits include eating small sections of leaf in between leaf veins, or eating large chunks of leaf outright.


Mite
Although healthy root zones and leaves often contain beneficial fungi and bacteria, other forms of fungi and bacteria are damaging to cannabis plants.

The most pervasive fungal invader is botrytis, otherwise known as gray mold. This fungus is particularly dangerous because it is virtually undetectable in early stages, and because it attacks the ripest, phattest buds from the
inside out.

Botrytis waits until cannabis flowers are dense and well developed, then it infests the buds near the core of the flower at stem level, and quickly produces gray garbage that destroys the bud's vigor and appearance. Gray mold and other pathogens can also affect harvested cannabis, even when harvested material is placed in a freezer.


Gray mold causes problems indoors and outdoors, particularly where humidity levels are above 50%, with poor aeration of plant tops. Downy mildew is almost as prevalent as gray mold, although it causes less damage and is harder to detect. It originally appears as faint whitish or yellowish spots on leaf tops, with corresponding bumps on the undersides of leaves. Leaves curl up and mutate as the mildew takes hold.

Powdery mildew is not downy mildew; it first appears as small bumps on the top of leaves; soon, the leaves look like they are covered in dusty grit. In some cases, powdery mildew can superficially resemble resin glands.

"Damping off" molds attack marijuana seeds before and after they have been planted. The molds also attack emergent seedlings and seedlings that have attained as much as six inches in height. Damping off can keep marijuana seeds from sprouting at all. Or, they kill sprouts by rotting their stems at the base.

Viruses and bacteria

Viruses affect plants, not just people, and some viruses can jump from people to plants and back again. Among the most prevalent cannabis viruses are "streak" and "mosaic" viruses that cause swirling white and yellow discolorations on leaves. The discolorations are almost artistic, but soon, the leaves wilt.

Several species of bacteria also attack cannabis. Most of these bacteria manifest themselves as "blight" diseases that create spots on leaves, wilting, rotting, weak stems, and rapid decay of harvested material.
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hope this helps :)
 
mlore

mlore

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trichlone fiend said:
...sorry, I just viewed your pics again, the 10 pics ( leaf on right side of pic) has signs of leaf miners, or thrips....I think ya got bugs. View this site >>> http://www.ganjaguerrilla.net/
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i thought it might be bugs too. but ive sprayed them with some bug srpay. and it is still growing onto the new set of leaves coming through at the top and nodes. but i wil still check out that site just in case. cheers man

also cheers cannabis 420. il take a read through that.
 
Oneton

Oneton

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is that where they would rub together in the wind by any chance?
sometimes my fan would do that to my leaves
 
mlore

mlore

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Oneton said:
is that where they would rub together in the wind by any chance?
sometimes my fan would do that to my leaves
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i have no idea. maybe it is? but its coming up on new leaves. i think it mught be some kind of nutrient thing. really need to sort it out. anyone else got any ideas? like i said ive tried bug spray. been using distilled water with PH 7.5. and about a week ago was the first time i used some nutrients. tomatorite (anyone no if that stuff is okay?)

my girls have also started to flower and its way to early. i have no idea whats going on. still 15-16 hrs sunlight. anyone?

cheers people, peace
 
mlore

mlore

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hey guys, still need some help here. with the flowering and leave problems. co mon help a brother :)

82 views and only 10 comments? no one have any ideas then?
 
Oneton

Oneton

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m8 they dont look that bad. i have similar marks on mine. relax. your plants are pre-flowering dont worry its their age not their photoperiod. nature doesent 12/12 your plants outdoors they flower gradually, its all good dude
 
Oneton

Oneton

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give em half strength of your nutes every other watering. its allways better to give em slightly too little than slightly too much and flush them every few weeks.
if ever you think you have a nute prob flush them through just
 
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frankcarroll

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that ph is to hight man. you killing you plant with to hight hp and to much nutrients, you need to sort the water an nutrients out
you need to go get ph up and up down from a hydro shop, 5.5 - 6.5 ok 7- not so good
 
Oneton

Oneton

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frankcarroll said:
that ph is to hight man. you killing you plant with to hight hp and to much nutrients, you need to sort the water an nutrients out
you need to go get ph up and up down from a hydro shop, 5.5 - 6.5 ok 7- not so good
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i do have to say that in my area the water with the nutes in is always bang on. i only need to adjust if using hydro after 1 or 2 days. guess i'm lucky just.
go easy on the ph up/down dude. plants in soil arent as sensitive to ph as plants in hydro

and if you do need to adjust your ph you will need either ph up or down you wont need to buy both lol
 
Oneton

Oneton

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just read your post again, and looked at your pics again, i see your a u.k. grower, hi neighbour. it looks like the damage on your leaves are slight wind damage just. if your in a soft water area like me dont worry about your ph for soil its ok. if you are in a hard water area (you get fur in your kettle) you will need to get yourself a ph test kit and some ph down it should be less than a tenner.
 
mlore

mlore

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Oneton said:
just read your post again, and looked at your pics again, i see your a u.k. grower, hi neighbour. it looks like the damage on your leaves are slight wind damage just. if your in a soft water area like me dont worry about your ph for soil its ok. if you are in a hard water area (you get fur in your kettle) you will need to get yourself a ph test kit and some ph down it should be less than a tenner.
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cheers man. youve been really helpfull. so you a brother from the uk too :) wikid. weathers been good gor an outdooe grow this year. in london anyway haha. where bouts are you?
just got home from work and was loking at my plants and they have got a hella lot worse. the leaves are starting to loose colour and there are alot more marks on them. i was inspecting them and i think i can see tiny black dots and some little see through insect things. i might go out in a sec to asda and get some bug spray. what do you think?

oohhh, so coz its preflowering will it start to flower properly soon? or just stay with them little pistils until the time comes round to full on flower?

il get some pics up of the new damage in a bit.

cheers, peace
 
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