SirTitanium
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I've noticed many Dutch seed banks have different categories for "feminized seeds" and "female seeds". Can anyone explain the difference?
Feminized vs Female
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SirTitanium
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Ok then. It's like my amplifier. The dial goes up to eleven so it's louder. See, it goes past ten here.
unique data point
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When I was at Oaksterdam University the growing professor claimed you could not tell the sex of a seed... which makes sense in a way.. so I am wondering how seed banks can tell if a seed is female or not?? Anyone else hear differently? I assume places that make such claims are lying to me but I am not sure.
planning to grow from seed on my next round.. any suggestions on seed banks? thanks
darkdestruction420
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Feminized seeds are made by taking a bunch of plants and putting them on a 12/12 cycle and then fucking up the light cycle on purpose by interrupting the middle of the dark period with an hour or 2 of light. This will cause any plant that can go hermie to do so and weed out any "true female" which is just that, a female that cannot go hermi any of the normal ways. Then you need to get and apply colodial silver or their are a few other chemicals that will do it to make it start growing male flowers, the pollen sacks dont always form right so you have to extract the pollen and knock her up with her own pollen. You now have feminized seeds, exact genetic copies of their mom.
SirTitanium
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Couldn't you do it hormonally? We all start existence as females. Human embryos (XY - destined to be male) secrete Mullerian Inhibiting Factor (MIF) in the first seven weeks after fertilization from their primitive androgenic cells that cause the female "Mullerian" system (that would become the uterus) to degenerate and male Wolffian system (which becomes the testis) to flourish. In the absence of MIF, all creatures (even those w/ XY chromosomes) would be phenotypic females.
It seems logical that plants would have a hormonal analogue to MIF. But, logic does not equal reality. Does anyone know if my theory holds water?
It seems logical that plants would have a hormonal analogue to MIF. But, logic does not equal reality. Does anyone know if my theory holds water?
Whoa there buddy, to much sceintific shit for me to grasp. Let me take a few tokes and try to figure this one out.
SirTitanium
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Sorry, my bad. It was so vivid - I was sitting there in the front of embryology class: grad school flashback.
skiweeds
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im experienced but dont consider myself an expert, but from my understanding male has the chromosomes XY. females have XX. you cross a male and female you have a 50/50% chance of either XY or XX being male or female. now if you stress a female to a certain point, the plant thinks it may be dying so it produces pollen sacks to ensure survival of it's kind. keep in mind that the chromosomes are still XX, they do not change from producing pollen sacks but you could still label it a hermaphrodite since it has both sex organs. so those pollen sacks are carrying the XX chromosome, not XY like a normal male would. since the females are XX and the pollen is from XX, the Y is non existant forcing the plant's seeds to have the chromosomes XX. your resulting seeds should either be females or hermaphrodites. the reason some may be hermaphrodite besides being stressed, is they can carry bad genetics. if you have seeds from the same plant feminized or not and one pollinates another, its similar to how the offspring of incest humans works. they can have mutant genetics. or in the plants case, hermaphrodite seeds.
again im no expert. i have a lot of experience growing and this is what i got thru reading and heard from other ppl on the net. if anyone notices anything inaccurate or if im missing anything please respond. im always open to ppl questioning my knowledge cause it only helps to learn more.
again im no expert. i have a lot of experience growing and this is what i got thru reading and heard from other ppl on the net. if anyone notices anything inaccurate or if im missing anything please respond. im always open to ppl questioning my knowledge cause it only helps to learn more.
SirTitanium
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skiweeds, to paraphrase: hyper-stressed, hermaphroditic seeds can carry compromised genetics compared to a random XX seeds, 50:50 female seeds from good old-fashioned plant sex. What kind of problems can one expect?