THELOADEDDRAGON'S 2010 Outdoor

theloadeddragon

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thanks guys.... its really hard to get proportionate pictures that can depict the realistic size of the plants. Im still working on the video.... says there is 55 minutes left of the upload.... we shall see....

I will try and take measurements in the next couple of days....

sure is beautiful with that backdrop and everything, huh? Too bad its all a fake set and 2 ft tall..... LOL (j/k)
 

highflyby

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And HFB- Your getting there bro. Your going through it. You will come out on the other side, and breathe again. I will pull you out, and up, and we may hold that much more together. But only together, can we hold it, for it exists only in those rare and true connections. It will be real. Feel my love, as it is going out, and embrace it and give it all away, and we shall refill you. I see you are hungry as I, and together we shall break bread. Until then, patients will be your payment, both coming and going. New barriers of tolerance, understanding, accepting, and passion will expand around you, and when we meet, there will be no better man. We will break bread together and feed on each others love. Smoke on our Labours of Love, and see the world for what it is.
I appreciate it man for real. Just loosing faith in people all around, discovering most arent worth my time. Sounds kind of conceded, but people just seem to take kindness and take advantage of it. Oh well....good to know there are still good people out there.

Oh, and you have no trouble with proportion in your pictures, plenty of landscape to compare to, and those things look like monsters!
 

theloadeddragon

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always loose track of time walking around the garden..... thoughts fly by a million a minute, and visions with them.... and maybe a moan will be uttered lol.....

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Steadmanclan

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awesome... funny to hear what I can only assume to be your kid in the background.

as I was watching the other video, my 2 1/2 year old ran in and pointed to the screen and said.. "daddy's trees? that daddy's trees?"
 

husalife

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Looking Grand TLD, looks like its gonna be a good year for you and yours as far as smoke.

The rest will work its self out in the wash. Keep her green and Be Easy
 

passthatsh!t23

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Great video TLD.
My dreams are your reality. Its amazing what you can do under the sun. Next year i shall have outdoor plants.
Keep on truckin man!
 

wormdrive66

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Thanks for the advise on the Molasses and Fish emulsion, gave em a shot of fish/kelp and look to be getting some color back. Not very happy with the FF nutes so far, but it will do as i learn what the hell I'm doing.

[video=youtube;sV_toedW2L0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV_toedW2L0[/video]
 

theloadeddragon

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Thanks guys......



An excerpt from my mind, another post at another time.... earlier today-
nah man. Its about habits, balance, and tolerance. Its totally relative. Like I wrote, it offered me a lot of insight into things going on in my own life. For example: Me talking about wanting to cut it down to one forum, one journal, rather than the multiple I am doing now. Focussing and prioritizing goals and resources, time, and money. Not being over bearing in providing for my plants, and spending time with my family. Totally relative. Maybe, consider asking to be banned from other forums..... see, sure I could go back. But not as TLD, and then it wouldn't be the same. Interesting to me, that it wouldn't be the same, for weights and measures. The journey to enlightenment starts with a spark of desire. Could make something out of nothing, and let it steer your life...... could focus on whats right in front of you, and miss everything around you.
 

theloadeddragon

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awesome... funny to hear what I can only assume to be your kid in the background.

as I was watching the other video, my 2 1/2 year old ran in and pointed to the screen and said.. "daddy's trees? that daddy's trees?"
Kids say the darndest things.... lol...... when it comes to that though..... I asked the CWS worker which they prefer be left out if it had to be one or the other, a bud, or a cup of bleach..... their answer was the same as yours would be, and mine... neither, but the bud can't kill them, and the bleach will. Its a taboo and a touchy subject, especially to be spoken about publicly ;). I grew up around cannabis on a daily basis. Did I turn out bad? I was appropriately educated and have steered clear of hard, potentially lethal drugs. I live a fairly well balanced lifestyle. I feel I don't abuse cannabis. Indeed, my substances of vice are coffee and cigarettes. That is something I am a lot more self conscious about than cannabis, which provides me with a means to eat, because without it I would have no appetite. Both coffee and cigarettes are appetite suppressants, and for me that is a deadly combination.


Nice video, I can only dream of a backyard like that.
No, you can Live that dream. As I said, the sky is now the limit for you my friend, and I will go with you, I will wake you up from your dream when we get there. You have found a pocket in my heart, indeed. Your plants are a mirror that I can see you in, and you are beautiful. Thank you.

Looking Grand TLD, looks like its gonna be a good year for you and yours as far as smoke.

The rest will work its self out in the wash. Keep her green and Be Easy
Green and easy..... good times, hard times, but good times, :).

Great video TLD.
My dreams are your reality. Its amazing what you can do under the sun. Next year i shall have outdoor plants.
Keep on truckin man!
Thankss bro! If your dreams are my reality, than they are your reality as well. Now I need for you to make my dreams a reality with your grow. As any that know me know- I will be there with you every step of the way, but its you that makes it what it is.

Thanks for the advise on the Molasses and Fish emulsion, gave em a shot of fish/kelp and look to be getting some color back. Not very happy with the FF nutes so far, but it will do as i learn what the hell I'm doing.

[video=youtube;sV_toedW2L0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV_toedW2L0[/video]
FF has good stuff... not the best, but I would say nye but nature can truly be perfection. SO I mix and I match for success, on the penny, cuz Im always broke ass, lol.


watering the plants tomorrow. Really time to trim inner growth, and get the support netting up.... gotta ghetto wrangle some supplies.....

and to the one that gave me the phrase "..... ahh.... it sure is neverending isn't it?..." Thank you.
 

someone else

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Please forgive me if you've mentioned this, but do you top your plants (trees more like it!)?

Curious about your opinion on topping, and if you think it really adds that much more weight compared to just letting them go.

Thanks Dragon.....and GREAT job!
 

theloadeddragon

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If you start topping early, and you top with a strategy, yes I think it can increase your yield in some situations and with some strains. The PK I have hasn't produced the largest top colas when I topped them, but I think that may have been an indoor thing, as they weren't allowed a whole lot of recovery and development time since topping (or FIM'ing, or whatever you do, Super Cropping etc.), they only recovered for 2 weeks before flowering, and went through a transplant in the meantime.

The PK "Wide" was topped approximately 3 weeks before she came outside. The 2 Legged PK was the result of taking a cutting from the mother, the last 4-6 inches of a branch that is 6" long. The 2 inches (1 node) remaining was cut into another cutting, and thus it produced those two main shoots. Like I wrote before, I am very interested in that, it almost looks like 2 whole plants stemming from one root system, very interesting. The PK SW and NE both have certain branches coming from the bottom that are a lot larger and more developed than the others, and I am keeping an eye on that. I think is is a result of my pinch FIM technique. Anyways, having those sister plants (all the PK thats outside) that are all exactly the same age, will help provide answers to a more in depth exploration on the subject.

But anyways, in the past topping increased yields on some strains, and decreased yields on some. I also noticed that plants that don't do well with topping typically do well with SCROG'ing. Sensi Star does well topped, increase in yield for sure ;). In fact, when she revegged for me, she topped herself in the process, :).
 

someone else

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If you start topping early, and you top with a strategy, yes I think it can increase your yield in some situations and with some strains. The PK I have hasn't produced the largest top colas when I topped them, but I think that may have been an indoor thing, as they weren't allowed a whole lot of recovery and development time since topping (or FIM'ing, or whatever you do, Super Cropping etc.), they only recovered for 2 weeks before flowering, and went through a transplant in the meantime.

The PK "Wide" was topped approximately 3 weeks before she came outside. The 2 Legged PK was the result of taking a cutting from the mother, the last 4-6 inches of a branch that is 6" long. The 2 inches (1 node) remaining was cut into another cutting, and thus it produced those two main shoots. Like I wrote before, I am very interested in that, it almost looks like 2 whole plants stemming from one root system, very interesting. The PK SW and NE both have certain branches coming from the bottom that are a lot larger and more developed than the others, and I am keeping an eye on that. I think is is a result of my pinch FIM technique. Anyways, having those sister plants (all the PK thats outside) that are all exactly the same age, will help provide answers to a more in depth exploration on the subject.

But anyways, in the past topping increased yields on some strains, and decreased yields on some. I also noticed that plants that don't do well with topping typically do well with SCROG'ing. Sensi Star does well topped, increase in yield for sure ;). In fact, when she revegged for me, she topped herself in the process, :).
Thank you for taking the time to write that out for me Dragon.

I've had about the same results in indoor grows with topping; some strains do better than others.

You're gonna yield pounds from your plants...I'm excited for you and yours!
 

highflyby

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Kids say the darndest things.... lol...... when it comes to that though..... I asked the CWS worker which they prefer be left out if it had to be one or the other, a bud, or a cup of bleach..... their answer was the same as yours would be, and mine... neither, but the bud can't kill them, and the bleach will. Its a taboo and a touchy subject, especially to be spoken about publicly ;). I grew up around cannabis on a daily basis. Did I turn out bad? I was appropriately educated and have steered clear of hard, potentially lethal drugs. I live a fairly well balanced lifestyle. I feel I don't abuse cannabis. Indeed, my substances of vice are coffee and cigarettes. That is something I am a lot more self conscious about than cannabis, which provides me with a means to eat, because without it I would have no appetite. Both coffee and cigarettes are appetite suppressants, and for me that is a deadly combination.
You also have to keep in mind coffee and cigarettes will keep bugging you because you know their bad for you. As cannabis is nothing more than medicine, and a way to enjoy your day to day life, you dont even think of it. Without it, I would feel like shit, daily. I dont think of cannabis as "any" drug, and refuse to ever mention it as so. So for me, at one point in time I got excited to go home and blaze after work, now I dont even think about it....more or less thinking about what I want to eat. :D

Without this stuff I couldent eat, and my stomach would eventually destroy itself....along with my throat from all the acid.

:weed: I <3 you cannabis
 

passthatsh!t23

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thank TLD. i should have some decent plant next year. im glad to hear your their with me all the way.
i got a quick ?'s
i FIMd my fem church. it just starting to grow in. now i want to LST to get as many mini main colas as i can. ill provide a pic for you but by tieing them down in a X formation. will this increase my harvest? especially if like you said some strains do better. Does the church strain do good with FIM/topping?

snd 005.jpg this was from yesterday.

edit: that pic you cant tell where anything it. so here are 2 new pics from today.
 

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highflyby

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thank TLD. i should have some decent plant next year. im glad to hear your their with me all the way.
i got a quick ?'s
i FIMd my fem church. it just starting to grow in. now i want to LST to get as many mini main colas as i can. ill provide a pic for you but by tieing them down in a X formation. will this increase my harvest? especially if like you said some strains do better. Does the church strain do good with FIM/topping?

View attachment 1070615 this was from yesterday.
Dude, the church is a badass strain. Topping/fimming is a great idea with this strain, but LST I do not know....I dont see why it wouldent work ;)

Here...I got a picture of a church growing outside in nor-cal right now (topped once :D)
 

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theloadeddragon

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thank TLD. i should have some decent plant next year. im glad to hear your their with me all the way.
i got a quick ?'s
i FIMd my fem church. it just starting to grow in. now i want to LST to get as many mini main colas as i can. ill provide a pic for you but by tieing them down in a X formation. will this increase my harvest? especially if like you said some strains do better. Does the church strain do good with FIM/topping?

View attachment 1070615 this was from yesterday.
Yep good to top and tie down.... damn I wish we could be side by side on it though..... You saving it to veg all the way until next season?

Think I found the hash instructor for my school.... :)....... need a couple more instructors.... then we can start going over corriculum. But there is actually distinctive properties Per Plant that help determine whether or not it would be ideal for topping, or FIM'ing, or Pinch FIM'in, or supercropping, or SCROGing....... distance between nodes, leaf structure, stem width and strength, growth rates, amount of time to veg before flower etc.

I would like to point out a form of pinch FIM'ing that I have been developing more and more over time. instead of actually pinching the stem of the plant, pinch just NEWLY forming leaves. This stunts the top growth and sends auxiliary signals to the lateral side branches of the plant, these side branches thicken and strengthen, and grow more vigorously as a result. And the top you pinch..... keeps growing. It may be stunted for up to a week before you really notice the place where you pinched start growing again. After about another week, you will notice a lot of the side branches continued to grow just as vigorously as just after you pinch FIM'ed. At this point you can pinch FIM the single top again, and by the time it recovers, some of the lateral side branches will have caught up with it or surpassed it. If you do this the one time though, and then permanently top the single vertical stem a couple weeks later, it will double the amount of Tops you get.

Gosh I hope that made sense.... thats one of the reasons I said it would be nice to be right next to you with this.... I could show you over time.
 

passthatsh!t23

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Fuck yah HFB.
That looks like an awesome plant. looking at yours i can just imagine what mine should bring to the table.
i just took 2 new pics of my plant and edited my previous post. so its a better picture.
Looks like to be a badass strain from your pic! +rep
thanks brotha!
 
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