mutant plant, 3 nodes instead of 2, cloning genetics question.

[skiweeds]

i was reading a high times magazine at a friends the other day and in the questions and answers section(think it was danny danko but cant remember) someone asked a question about a plant they grew. instead of the usual adjacent 2 nodes per space, this dude had a mutant plant that had 3. i forgot the scientific term for it but high times said it was due to a genetic mutation, normally they are bad for plants but this one was actually great and can even provide more yield.
so i was wondering in theory a clone from this plant will have those same mutant genetics right? however on clones though the lower nodes are not at the same height like a plant grown from seed. they are all above one another. kinda like how the nodes develope on the top part of a plant pretty much above the 3rd node. so what would cloning a mutant plant like this do? would it still produce more nodes than normal? i imagine if someone had a clone of a good strain doing this, it may have high demand since yield can be bigger.

 

[mr.smileyface]

Only the best moms are picked. why would you want that ugly thing. its probly a male.
All those tops strains are clone only. Because it was one of a kind from a batch of seeds.
That clone might lack vigor and not be resistant to stress or anything.
I think you should find clones and copy those.
I compare seeds to people. "Why would you want to clone a mutant, when you can have a supermodel"
Here is some differnt advice. Veg your plants for 2 weeks 24/7. Make sure you have 2 gallon pots. Buy a light(ballast, shade, bulb, wire and a inline fan+filter and some ducting. Now go buy 20 clones and a bale of promix. A set of hydro nutes. ABC or 123. Also buy something with b1 like vitamax or aussietonic and a bloombooster like "monster bloom". Make sure you read the bottle and mix it correctly. Once a week you feed them. You will have to water about twice a week, so once with the food and once with water. Only water when the pots are half empty. Weigh them or water when the first inch is dry. DOnt over water or over feed.
In veg keep your light no more than 36 inches away. Now after two weeks of them growing bring the light to about 12-18 inches depending on your temps and plants. ANd then set your light timer to 12/12 12 hours on and 12 off. Dont mess that up and make sure no light is leaking into the room when the lights are off. Use your inline fan to take air out of the room, Threw your filter. Your intake can be a piece of ducting that moves new air in.
You should get 1-2 pounds Per 1000watt depending on strains, shades , enviorment and stress free plants.
The more light you have in a room the more you get per light. It all adds up.
keep your temps no more than 30 and keep your humidity no more than 60. good luck

 

[tamjam69]

yeah i had a mutant snowwhite that had 4 bud sites at each node!! it was awesome. and had a nice fat yield compared to the others

 

[girlgrow]

where did you get that plant, a clone or seed? do you know what its supposed to be? if not had it before, i would go ahead and clone it, if its shit when you harvest the rest, kill it, if not you have some more of it..

 

[skiweeds]

i dont own it, it was a high times article i read. i will try to borrow it to show you guys. im pretty sure they said it was a feminized seed so no way it could be a male. i understand that mutant genetics are normally bad, but in this case the dude was lucky. reminds me of x-men this plant's special power is an extra limb. wish i could get my hands on one.

i understand what your saying about comparing seeds to people. why clone a person when you can clone a super model? because this mutant may be even a step above a super model. i dunno though, im not exactly a pro when it comes to genetics talk.

 

[tamjam69]

heres the link to a thread i posted to show people

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/309210-mutant-snow-white.html

and heres the link to the grow

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/294653-tamjams-2nd-grow-snow-white.html

i still have the pheno going and i got a mother that im startin to clone

 

[gobbly]

I've always seen them called tri-nodes. I found a botany paper online that I *think* was referring to them as a tri-nerve. Anyway, From what I had read this is a mutation, but not one that typically causes a low quality plant. That isn't to say that there won't be problems in future generations, this I have really seen no info on. As mentioned, when breeding, you always pick your most healthy and genetically stable to be parents. Issues might not even show up for a few generations, so I personally would err on the side of caution; meaning at least, don't put all your eggs in the genetic basket of that plant, maybe do some breeding to see what will happen in a few generations.

In the second part of your question, I think you are talking about alternating nodes (instead of a fan leaf on each side of a node, you get fan leaves on alternating sides of the stalk, one leaf per node). This is a sign of maturity, and is completely normal in a clone from a mature plant.

 

[skiweeds]

heres from high times october 2010 issue. never knew october came out this early. heres the question from the dear danko section.

Whorled Phyllotaxy
Some of my plants are doing something really weird: Instead of two branches coming out of the stem, I get three individual branches. Is this common?

Trilateral branching also known as whorled phyllotaxy is a genetic mutation of the chromosomes, common mostly among south american sativa dominant strains. it's a benign mutation, meaning there's nothing to worry about, and can actually result in bigger harvesets under the proper conditions. Consider yourself lucky as most other genetic mutations aren't nearly as harmless.
-Grace

 

[MasterHemp]

i got one growing as we speak, its so small but so bushy already due to it growing in three sets rather then two, its pretty cool

 

[skiweeds]

heres the link to a thread i posted to show people

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/309210-mutant-snow-white.html

and heres the link to the grow

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/294653-tamjams-2nd-grow-snow-white.html

i still have the pheno going and i got a mother that im startin to clone

damn! thats fucking awesome! nice job

 

[dirtigirl]

pic of the 3 node mutant, out of approx 500 seeds...this guy was discovered not the best pic but it works

 

[Omikse]

Hello all, I am new here and a first time responder. Found this site while looking for some one else who has come across this mutation. When I first saw it I thought it wierd and there must be some thing wrong with my plant but after reading this thread I see that it is common. The plant it is coming off of was started from a seed I got from a friend (strain unknown) back in March and has grown to over six feet tall as of mid Aug. Also just for FYI it is a feminized seed. It has been an outdoor plant since Day 1. I want to clone this muation and try to breed it with a male that is also a tri-node so I can keep the genetics going. This is my forth attempt at growning (spanded over 20+ years) and I have never cloned a plant before so I am quite inexperienced. I have watched several YouTube videos and read about 50 articles on the matter so I am almost sure I can do it. I dont really have any questions but any advice you can give would be great so I can do this right. I only want to clone this 1 branch since I am doing everything out side and I do not have room for a bunch of plants (room for 3 at most) so they wont be discovered by the landlord or nieghbors. I have CloneX and some of those little root starting cubes to put the cuttings in and some Fox Farms Big Bloom. I cant afford to buy all the stuff needed to really do a good like all the lights and such so all is going to be done outside so I am relying on my first time skills to get things going. So agin any advise would be great. TY for any help and I am sorry for restarting an old topic my first time out.