Scuba
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well how about smoking in your own house, when there is a child anywhere in the house even if they are 20, with prop 19 it makes that illegal how about that one?
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Dan Kone
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I'd like to see some proof of that. I've spent considerable time there and have worked with a few of these clubs (no, not Rich Lee's club, they sell schwag). They aren't even the biggest producer of medical cannabis in the bay area. There is no way those clubs out do San Francisco's 60+ clubs, LA's hundreds of clubs, or even the SanJo clubs.
Not exactly true either. They are just the only one that gets publicity. Don't believe everything you see on TV.
Because I don't accept all the garbage you spew out as 100% fact?
Keenly2
Active Member
well thats interesting because i dont have a child, and no children come to visit
so your projecting a situation on me that does not apply to me...
sorry, doesnt make me want to vote no
DankNugget420
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I think prop19 is just a way for a few people to setup big warehouses and try to take over the whole market and get rich. vote no.
Scuba
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well then don't ask "so tell me, what does this make illegal for me now exactly?" if you don't care if the first place. you asked and i told you.
abe23
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This debate is one of the dumbest things I've ever come across, frankly. Smokers and growers trying to convince others to vote NO on a bill that would make it LEGAL to smoke and grow cannabis in the entire state of california (not to mention the effect this would have on the legalization debate nationwide...) because:
a) There are limits on how much you can grow.
b) There are potential penalties for sharing your pot with kids
c) It would allow legitimate businesspeople to grow, thereby creating competition for the 'mom and pop' grow-ops.
These are some pretty dumb reasons to be against what is as close to full legalization as we have seen anywhere (including holland, by the way). Can someone who is against this bill please show me something they would vote 'yes' on? This is about as perfect as anything that is going to be voted in and if the vote is NO this november, there won't be another chance for at least 2 years at which point the winds might not be blowing in favor of reforming cannabis laws....
a) There are limits on how much you can grow.
b) There are potential penalties for sharing your pot with kids
c) It would allow legitimate businesspeople to grow, thereby creating competition for the 'mom and pop' grow-ops.
These are some pretty dumb reasons to be against what is as close to full legalization as we have seen anywhere (including holland, by the way). Can someone who is against this bill please show me something they would vote 'yes' on? This is about as perfect as anything that is going to be voted in and if the vote is NO this november, there won't be another chance for at least 2 years at which point the winds might not be blowing in favor of reforming cannabis laws....
Scuba
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dude it's not illegal to smoke in your own house as long as the child is not in the same room!!! not the SAME HOUSE!!!!
Scuba
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you've been so brainwashed by the media!!! dude this country KNOWS how much cannabis is worth i taxes, they WON'T give up on it. It's up to US to make it not legal but decriminalized!!
abe23
Active Member
My state HAS decriminalized....
You still go to jail if you're busted growing in a 5x5 area and if you don't grow, you still have to buy your bud from shady people in some cases.
The tax and regulate bill is a for better proposition for anyone smoking or growing for personal use than decriminalization, end of story. And if you think you're not going to be paying taxes on cannabis if it's legal, you may have smoked a little bit too much already.
Or maybe I don't understand what you mean by decriminalization....?
Dan Kone
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Ironically, the DEA wants to help us out with that. lol
They've said they aren't going to allow large scale commercial grows no matter what Cali law says.
Dan Kone
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Prop 19 doesn't say same house, it says same space. Please at least try to be accurate. That doesn't necessarily mean the same house. If you have to embellish to make your argument, it's probably not a great one to begin with.
so what exactly does that mean?
Dan Kone
Well-Known Member
Well that's debatable. It's a flaw in prop 19 for sure. It could mean the same room or the same house. The courts will set precedence when the law is passed.
AFTER they start arresting people.
Dan Kone
Well-Known Member
Like I said, it's a flaw in the law. But the most likely interpretation of that is same room, but the courts will decide that for sure.AFTER they start arresting people.
once they start arresting people.
Dan Kone
Well-Known Member
I have a hard time imagining ANY situation where a state attempts to end prohibition where cops immediate reaction isn't to start arresting people. To say we can't end prohibition because the cops might arrest someone is pretty absurd.once they start arresting people.
potroast
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AFTER they start arresting people.
THEY are arresting people NOW, Man, and the so-called "legal" patients are going to jail. Maybe you don't want to believe it, but we need this law to pass for so many more reasons than you have to dislike it. The entire country needs it, not just Californians.
The campaign against Prop 19 is mainly one organization, Public Safety First:
"Aside from one $100 individual contribution in the last quarter, every cent of Public Safety First's money has come from just four groups: the California Police Chiefs Association ($30,000), the California Peace Officers Association ($5,000), the Peace Officers Association of Los Angeles County ($5,000), and the California District Attorney Investigators Association ($1,000)." (source)
That list alone tells me to vote for it, without even reading the bill.
