NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow

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blueberryblitz

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Im the same as you retris, Im trying with CFL's right now, but jumped into it too soon and should have read longer first. Mine are doing alright besides a hiccup right now with over nutes i think, but anyways yeah I really want to move into the LED next grow but want to see how this one goes, so I will be along for the ride to help me decide, hope it works out great Serapis
 

luckyskindaguy

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Update

Yesterday, while preparing the flower chamber to act as a vegger, I decided to toss the last peat pellet and ungerminated seed and wash the domed nursery and put it away for future use. As I picked up the peat pellet, I noticed it was kind of loose inside. I decided to take a look at the dead seed and see if it had cracked and dried out or what, just for educational purposes. I held it under a lamp and kinda split the peat open with my fingers. Lo and behold, the seed had split and it's tap root was out about 1/4". I soaked the peat and gently compacted it back towards the center and placed it back in the dome, just to see what would happen.

This morning after the lights came on, I decided to check on the ladies since the previous day was their first drink of Grow Big and Big Bloom combined. They looked fine. Looking in on the recently revived runt seed, I saw the seed leaf and stem getting ready to pop out of the soil and start it's slow arduous journey skyward. After 9 days, we now have 100% Germination for this strain of bubblegum from Nirvana. Once potted, this one will get a tag so we can follow along and see what she can do. She is nearly a week behind her siblings.

5 for 5! Let's hope all 5 move on to the 24 LED veg stage. :hump:
Already using nutes on the seedlings? You may have a nute burn problem on your hands quickly if that is the case. Usually want them to get some roots and leaves before the nutes. I think third node is what a lot of people wait for and then use 1/4-1/2 strength nutes. Glad you had all of them pop though! Hope you get some wild Geno's to select a mother from :P
 

Serapis

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Already using nutes on the seedlings? You may have a nute burn problem on your hands quickly if that is the case. Usually want them to get some roots and leaves before the nutes. I think third node is what a lot of people wait for and then use 1/4-1/2 strength nutes. Glad you had all of them pop though! Hope you get some wild Geno's to select a mother from :P
Not with peat pellets. They have absolutely no food for the plant to use. I am abiding by the Fox Farms feeding chart that came with my nutes. Plants are looking beautiful. They have only been fed once so far, and that was big bloom which helps establish strong roots. Now if I had germinated in an amended soil that was loaded with nutrients, then no, I would not be feeding on a regular basis.

Thanks. I hope I get a good mom too. Which ever one looks and smells the most like bubble gum. I want to do a scrog grow, but may wait until I'm out of seeds and have two mom candidates. I'll be starting other 5 seeds about 4 weeks into flower.
 

luckyskindaguy

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Not with peat pellets. They have absolutely no food for the plant to use. I am abiding by the Fox Farms feeding chart that came with my nutes. Plants are looking beautiful. They have only been fed once so far, and that was big bloom which helps establish strong roots. Now if I had germinated in an amended soil that was loaded with nutrients, then no, I would not be feeding on a regular basis.
Great, sounds like you are on top of it. Did you ever get specs on the LED angle of the fixtures you got? I am thinking about buying onter light, but wanted to see the angle in print before ordering
 

Serapis

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Great, sounds like you are on top of it. Did you ever get specs on the LED angle of the fixtures you got? I am thinking about buying onter light, but wanted to see the angle in print before ordering
You are probably going to have to custom order a light to get 60 downs. The light-print is so much smaller, although more intense. I'm not trying to chase down the specs on these lights anymore. I own them, it's what is what. I did find out that by wide spectrum, they are referring to wavelengths, not degrees of angle.

Hi Rolo. I'll be taking pics probably on Sunday. Today is only the 9th day since I started to germ them. They're only seedlings, under flouro's now. But good looking seedlings with nice purple stems. I'm hoping the stem stays that color as they grow. I think it will. When the stems and leaves first emerged, the stem was a light greenish white. It took on the color purple on it's second day emerged.
 

DUBS Doobious

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Your my hero!
+Rep
Definitely Subbed for this one brother
I've been lookin for an unbiased experience with LEDs (not someone who is with an LED company)
Your setup looks amazing man I gotta say.
very professional, very clean.
Man, that guy a few pages back was an ASShole,
He was probably pissed that you didn't give out your location so he could narc on you..fuckin chode..
anyways, good luck with the grow
I'll be creepin'
DUBS
 

Serapis

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Thanks Dubs for the kind words. We'll leave that asshole back on the previous pages. Thanks for reading up. I'm excited and I hope that everything I've researched on these lights is accurate. If so, we are indeed in for a good ride. The strain we are growing can reach as high as 100 cm, which is about 40" plus the pots, so close to 4'. that will push the height of the flower space as the LED's cannot go much higher. Future grows will be scrog, where I intend to harvest about a 1.5lbs every 2 months, if this strain will do it. This grow and the following grow will be to find the phonemes closest to bubble gum. I've never seen that strain here and to actually have a hint of bubble gum to the flavor and smell would be awesome. I'm so used to the dank pine stuff and I'm ready for something sweet. I hear this strain is very easy to grow and hardy. I will be topping, because I want to see what the plant can do. Shooting for 4 colas per plant. Best plant will be re-vegged for cuttings.

Sorry for running off at the fingers, in lieu of beautiful pics of flowering ladies, I'm filling in the space with thoughts, ideas and plans.

Tune in Sunday for seedling porn. :)
 

bigill

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+REP for you too!

As for auto-flower, who said anything about auto-flower? If I did, I was referring to something else, not my girls. I've not tried auto-flower yet. I assume it is from seeds induced late in the flowering cycle? I know they show their sex within 2 weeks of veg. Thats all I kow about em. I like feminized seeds. I'm in no rush :) I may now have a scrog of 5! That seems like 2 too many for a 2' x 4.5'.
thanks for the rep just figured that out now and yea... i dont know what a scrog is :(
 

Serapis

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thanks for the rep just figured that out now and yea... i dont know what a scrog is :(
A scrog grow is where you alter the plant's vertical grow into a horizontal one for one level and smooth canopy. You do so by suspending a net over some plants. As the plant grows through the net, you bend over the growth and pull it through an unused square or space in the net. You keep this up until hopefully the net is full and every growth end will form a cola. It is not unheard of to get a single plant to produce up to a lb of bud using this method.

For more info, check out this bad ass thread! https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/318783-scrog-club.html
 

bigill

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yea one of the first grows i've seen used this method now i'm really interested! even though its just one more thing to add to my list :(
thanks for clarifying. i hope to see some updates soon!
 

Serapis

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pic update

Here is the weekend update I promised. These are just over a week old, including germ time. You'll notice by looking at the pictures the different maturity levels; which is due to seeds cracking at different days.

The single plant shots are taken in order of maturity, and are all different plants, for a total of 5. Notice the markings on the first leaves of the second plant. The pattern matches on both sides. I'm thinking this is a "birth" mark from the seed casing.

Plant number 4 almost looks as if something was gnawing on the leaves, but upon closer inspection, the deformation has a match on the opposite leave and there is no sign of bugs or other problems.

They were watered with straight water about 8 hours ago and I'll allow them to go 2 more days without water. I gave them a healthy watering today of oxygenated water with h2o2 added for good measure. The roots should be drinking oxygen tonight.

The cups are 9 oz Solos that are 4" to the bottom, to allow a good tap root to form. I don't want to rush them to one gallon pots, but I hope to transplant next weekend and get them under LED lights. They should be ready to veg well by then.

The baby in solo shot 5 was the one that took 9 days to germinate. We'll call her "Runt". I'll tag the plants with names and numbers once in the new pot so we can track their growth. We are looking for the best genetics for a mom plant. We'll also let the others bud up for some smoke in time Halloween! :joint:

Feel free to post comments... kiss-ass

EDIT: I apologize, the forum attachment manager does what it wants. It has rearranged the pictures in no particular order. Next week they'll be labeled.
 

1mikej

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if you root them in rock wool till they root then put them in 5in baskets you wont need to transplant, just put the whole thing in the bigger pot. transplanting can shock them and that will cost you a week or 2 of growing
 

Serapis

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if you root them in rock wool till they root then put them in 5in baskets you wont need to transplant, just put the whole thing in the bigger pot. transplanting can shock them and that will cost you a week or 2 of growing
Thanks, but I work with plants all the time and transplant. There is no sense in putting a seedling in my one gallon pots because of the amount of water it would take to make sure the roots are reaching it. A careful transplant into the exact same medium mix will reduce any shock to the plant. A smaller pot will allow the tap root to stop at 4" and allow the roots to form a healthy system, I don't have more soil than I need retaining water or leeching nitrogen, and I can have more seedlings or cuttings in the nursery until I can move them to veg.

All in all, I feel I get a better root system by starting off in smaller containers. It also reduces soil toxicity, because the pot will have fresh soil just when it is ready to go into flowering and I want to shock the plant a bit, for it is going to react by getting defensive just as I change it's light regiment. Perfect for flowers.

You bring up a good subject that has been debated for the ages. Any other opinions about starting seedlings in their final pots? Do you guys do it for simplicity or ease?
 

Serapis

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Please don't quote my entire update to ask a simple question. Just click on the "Reply" icon please.

You just use an aquarium air pump and feed an air hose from the pump to the bottom of a reservoir. attached to an air stone. It bubbles in the water and oxygenates it. I also Hydrogen Peroxide to my watering reservoir.
 

bigill

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oh hydroponics.. i thought this was going to be a potted grow... and sorry man didnt think it would be that bad ill edit it.
 

sogalax

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Very very nice grow.few I just powered through all 12pages. I was using a similar size(if not the same) closet and I found a 13"x45" ebb and flow tray that fit the shelf perfect.i got it locally but the shop has a website if ur interested.
 
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