Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

cowboylogic

cowboylogic

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riddleme said:
I was gonna suggest that organic growers could experiment with adding the little mico critters back in after raining I know there are suppliments for doing this but don't really know how it would work out???
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Making it rain should not have much of an effect on the beneficials in the soils. They are attached and bound in amoung the roots and medium. You may drown a few but they are for the most part just bacteria. And we all know bacteria can breed faster than a 1000 rabbits giving the right environment. Earth Juice Microblast is your organic alternative to Calmag. It contains almost all of the goodies except calcium. Which is either supplemented with dolomite, compost teas (worm castings, chem or organic, one of our best friends) or even the water they are using. I think I am going to grow my Querkles in the multy journal 100% organic. So check in with Big and mines journal if you are more interested.

Spout out.......

Stoned edit: Riddle is right, just add some more beneficials the next time around.
 
gumball

gumball

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SensiStan said:
Those are some happy looking plants :weed:

Turns out he's not just a crazy hippie guy .... :bigjoint:,

i'm gonna look into micronute suppliments and see if theres any way i can stop them washing away all the time , possibly treat the rainwater with a suppliment ? what are your thoughts on that ?
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check out earth juice, they have a micro nute supplement. seems inexpensive, and states for soil or hydro, in case you ever think of switching!!!
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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So I see you've said 'you know that I want a 3-1-2 NPK ratio for veg and a 2-1-3 NPK ratio for flower' many times. I just got the Jack's 20-20-20. I also got the Bloom Booster but it's 10-30-20. I had to come home to check you're ratio's again. So it's P is way too high? I'll have some time to get ready for the next flowering anyway. The 20-20-20 is off that veg ratio, and I add Pro-teKt for a 0-0-3 every other watering. I remember someone saying the mix of macro/micro, made a click for him, so I was waiting to switch.
Daniels:weed:
Do you use the Outdoor 1 tbl spn. as a full str.? The Indoor seems weak.
 
SensiStan

SensiStan

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cowboylogic said:
Making it rain should not have much of an effect on the beneficials in the soils. They are attached and bound in amoung the roots and medium. You may drown a few but they are for the most part just bacteria. And we all know bacteria can breed faster than a 1000 rabbits giving the right environment. Earth Juice Microblast is your organic alternative to Calmag. It contains almost all of the goodies except calcium. Which is either supplemented with dolomite, compost teas (worm castings, chem or organic, one of our best friends) or even the water they are using. I think I am going to grow my Querkles in the multy journal 100% organic. So check in with Big and mines journal if you are more interested.

Spout out.......

Stoned edit: Riddle is right, just add some more beneficials the next time around.
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Sweet ,thanks CBL :bigjoint:

Good to know i was worrying over nothing really :D i'll stick with the BioCANNA stuff its fermented plant extract absolutely swarming with all the goodies :weed:
 
riddleme

riddleme

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Danielsgb said:
So I see you've said 'you know that I want a 3-1-2 NPK ratio for veg and a 2-1-3 NPK ratio for flower' many times. I just got the Jack's 20-20-20. I also got the Bloom Booster but it's 10-30-20. I had to come home to check you're ratio's again. So it's P is way too high? I'll have some time to get ready for the next flowering anyway. The 20-20-20 is off that veg ratio, and I add Pro-teKt for a 0-0-3 every other watering. I remember someone saying the mix of macro/micro, made a click for him, so I was waiting to switch.
Daniels:weed:
Do you use the Outdoor 1 tbl spn. as a full str.? The Indoor seems weak.
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I am merely using up what I have left before switching, so please don't be confused (also using it on my tomatoes and the ol lady's flowers)
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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riddleme said:
I am merely using up what I have left before switching, so please don't be confused (also using it on my tomatoes and the ol lady's flowers)
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OK gotcha. I'm returning that Bloom Booster, and I'll order the other one later. Thanks
 
riddleme

riddleme

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well we're comming up on topping time, prolly be middle to end of this week (4) but 6th nodes are comming out, I was thinking that I would top them each differently but now am having second thoughts as I prefer to top above the 5th node

what does everyone think?
 
gumball

gumball

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do one with UB technique for 4 or 6 tops, and then a comparison with your method. should make it a little more interesting.

or like cowboys thread, to top or not. pick 2 and compare a topped of which ever technique you prefer to a non topped el naturale grow.
 
Danielsgb

Danielsgb

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gumball said:
do one with UB technique for 4 or 6 tops, and then a comparison with your method. should make it a little more interesting.

or like cowboys thread, to top or not. pick 2 and compare a topped of which ever technique you prefer to a non topped el naturale grow.
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I loved topping UB Style. I got 4 tops even, and I'll be using it. My un-topped 2 weren't any better, so I think his worked well for me.
 
riddleme

riddleme

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bobhamm said:
Why do you prefer to top above the 5th node?
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While UB's method is very popular I prefer Mammoths way as it agrees with how I like to grow, topping above the 5th node gives 10 to 12 colas and makes little bushes out of indica dom's (which I prefer) Mammoth is no longer on the site but his thread was one of my Fav's when I joined RIU

gumball said:
do one with UB technique for 4 or 6 tops, and then a comparison with your method. should make it a little more interesting.

or like cowboys thread, to top or not. pick 2 and compare a topped of which ever technique you prefer to a non topped el naturale grow.
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That was my intention in the begining, but now I'm thinking about yields as I am gonna become a caregiver, so not sure?
 
gumball

gumball

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ok, well i dont remember hearing of mammoths technique (probably did and forgot!) but it sounds like a big difference in UB technique.

do you plan on LST'ing much for this grow?
 
riddleme

riddleme

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gumball said:
ok, well i dont remember hearing of mammoths technique (probably did and forgot!) but it sounds like a big difference in UB technique.

do you plan on LST'ing much for this grow?
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Not at all, gonna let em do what they want
 
SensiStan

SensiStan

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riddleme said:
well we're comming up on topping time, prolly be middle to end of this week (4) but 6th nodes are comming out, I was thinking that I would top them each differently but now am having second thoughts as I prefer to top above the 5th node

what does everyone think?
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If i could pipe up for a minute , i know i'm not as experienced as some but i did this and it was great :D

Try to Top AND Fim your plants i had some very very promising results when i topped and fimmed 1 of 3 cheese plants . In my last thread i managed 11 tops on one plant before i destroyed 5 playing with the ozone generator :D

I Topped the middle for more prominent large top kolas and fimmed around the edges for lots of clustery bud formations. Would have been my best yielding plant if not for Noob disaster, the tops that survived were delicious .
 
riddleme

riddleme

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SensiStan said:
If i could pipe up for a minute , i know i'm not as experienced as some but i did this and it was great :D

Try to Top AND Fim your plants i had some very very promising results when i topped and fimmed 1 of 3 cheese plants . In my last thread i managed 11 tops on one plant before i destroyed 5 playing with the ozone generator :D

I Topped the middle for more prominent large top kolas and fimmed around the edges for lots of clustery bud formations. Would have been my best yielding plant if not for Noob disaster, the tops that survived were delicious .
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I never FIM, it's a technique I don't agree with due to the potential for different results
 
riddleme

riddleme

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I set the plants up on paint cans to get them directly in the beam of the IR heater (have it adjusted to be aimed at the future buds) and raise the temp from 81F to 91F (high as the thermostat goes) and there were no signs of heat/moisture stress at all (I rained on em this morning), This tells me three things, I have adequate CO2 (though I have no way of measuring it, yet) that I have great root systems developing (as the plant can cool itself thru transpiration without stress) and that these are some hardy bitches

pic 1 is at 81F and pic 2 is at 91F
 

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