My clones are turning yellow!!!!

tlsdrm73

tlsdrm73

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when i started these white widow clones, the guy at the hydro store told me to fill up the tray half way (to where stem meets water within the earth plug) with water and thrive alive b1 red and i did that at the begining, then i read here somewhere not to have water in there at all and just leave the dome on...so i took the water out...now they r lookin reeeal bad...any advice on WTF TO DO?!?!?!?

i lost my crop due to moving so these 30 lil ladies are all i got left :/ :shock:
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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If they're anything like Rapid Rooters or Jiffy peat pellets, they don't need to be in water. That's all I can say, without pics, and more info, like temps, lighting, etc....


Um, after you assumed that removing the water was what started the damage,...did you put the water back in? :wink:
 
tlsdrm73

tlsdrm73

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iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii stand corrected, they are rapid rooter plugs...goin to empty out the stupid water sitting there...i guess this prob isn't gonna work...looks like i'll b traveling 3 hours to find some clones in a city...shit :/
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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Did they all turn yellow at the same time? I googled "earth plugs" and found that they're the same as Rapid Rooters, which I use. If you were to remove them from water, the cuttings wouldn't turn yellow, they'd all get droopy, once they got past a certain point of dryness. The yellowing and death, would come afterwards. Is that what happened?
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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tlsdrm73 said:
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii stand corrected, they are rapid rooter plugs...goin to empty out the stupid water sitting there...i guess this prob isn't gonna work...looks like i'll b traveling 3 hours to find some clones in a city...shit :/
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Rapid Rooters are designed to be sitting in water, in those special trays they come in. That's what you're using, right? The only reason I don't keep water in my tray, is because it has a hole in it, otherwise I probably would. :lol: I was just saying that they'll work either way, as long as you keep them wet. I spray mine once or twice a day, or whenever necessary.
 
tlsdrm73

tlsdrm73

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ok they started looking droopy the first couple of days...thats when i took water out...and then i read i'm supposed to have them in water...and so i put more in and now they are yellowing...so should i not take the water out??? lol
 
drewabu

drewabu

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Yellowing could be lack of light to bro, How far are your lights from your clones? I have to keep my 125w Cfls 4-6 inches away or my cuttings or they will turn yellow and wilt away.
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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Yellowing could be lack of light to bro, How far are your lights from your clones? I have to keep my 125w Cfls 4-6 inches away or my cuttings or they will turn yellow and wilt away.
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IDK man, I use a weak-ass bar light(Coors.lol) from above a pool table, about 12" from my plants, and they do just fine. Hmm...what was the PH of the water used?
 
jawbrodt

jawbrodt

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If they went droopy, they either went dry, or you have another major problem, like PH or disease, because there's not really any such thing as being too wet.(although not recommended) You can actually throw cuttings in a glass of water, and they'll take root. I've done it, and it works well. :)

What are the temps?
 
drewabu

drewabu

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lol, 12 inches away or 6 inches away is the same thing. Also all non Mh/Hps lights are weak. I clone in pea pots filled w/top soil so thats really the only info I could give him from my experence.
 
machnak

machnak

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What about in regards to a bubble cloner? My clones are in the water and root ok, so far anyways ;-)
 
dudeoflife

dudeoflife

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If you want to save your cuttings, you need to shake the excess water out of each and every one of them--- or just the ones you want to produce roots within the next 10 days. Whatever.

This means, physically grabbing the plug, plant and all, and forcing water out of it. But gently.


You want the grow media to be DAMP, not wet when cloning in plugs.


Choke the guy at the hydro store. Or EMPHATICALLY tell him that he is doling misinformation out to other fellow growers.

When I managed a hydro store, I swear to god- I spent more time debunking and disproving these terrible snippets of misinfo, involving clones 90% of the time.
 
dudeoflife

dudeoflife

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Machnak- the bubble cloner is much much different.

It is, what I'd like to call. "Wet Propagation". Meaning, propagation with no medium, but with O2 enriched H20.

Growing in media such as rockwool or willow bark, or peat, would be "Dry Propagation"

This cloning process involves a medium holding 02 enriched water.


If the medium is waterlogged, there'll be no oxygen present. So you want a light balance of damp/dry conditions in the media for the fastest results. Damp indicates that there is water present, and plenty of oxygen, as a bubblecloner would. But it's a method whose conditions are dry when compared to the wet propagation method.



Nothing fancy here with the rhetoric. Pretyty straightforward, and the only way I can explain it.


Peace.
 
tlsdrm73

tlsdrm73

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i'd say its about 8 inches from the top of the dome...i guess i could drop it down a couple more...i just don't wanna melt the dome or nothing...i have a 2 ft T5 over em
 
tlsdrm73

tlsdrm73

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i'm DEF investing in a ez cloner...prob jus build one myself...but as for now i'm gonna go empty this tray and "gently" squeeze these plugs to get some of the water out...this is all the information i've been trying to get...u guys are very helpful :)
 
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