Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

[Integra21]

What A Harvest

Thanks, turned yout very well, my best yet I think. Thanks for stopping in.

lovely integra
some of those turned pretty damn purple. did you drop temps a little more this round?

Yeah, they turned about 30% purple and my temps were at 79F the hole time, bet they would have went solid purple if I droped the temps down some.

Superb stuff Integra. The nugs looks absolutely fantastic, and real dense. As a strain to grow you gotta be happy with it. Hopefully the cure brings out the strength. Reminds me, I need to get more gloves in for harvest time.

Enjoy the haul, DST

I hear you there. I did one harvest without and I'll never do it again. My hands were brown, sticky, and smelled like herb for a week, the stuff just wouldnt wash off.

 

[DST]

I hear you there. I did one harvest without and I'll never do it again. My hands were brown, sticky, and smelled like herb for a week, the stuff just wouldnt wash off.

hahaha, I once heard a great Scottish comedian telling a joke about a similar thing, "it works even better than swarfega, just stick yer fingers inside a ladies cream pie and they'll be nice as nicepence." or words to that effect.....swarfega is what you use in the mechanics trade btw, for oil (just thought, perhaps they don't get that in the US!)

 

[littlegrower2004]

how long you planning on curing them for?

 

[Integra21]

how long you planning on curing them for?

Iusually cure for 3 weeks plus. But ido start smoking them as soon as they dry. Still have Blue Kush curing from my april harvest. seems like the buds are best right around 30 days cured.

 

[Bob Smith]

I bet he still cant see the back of his garage.

We were betting your greenhouse, right?

BTW Integra, still looking great meng..........

 

[Integra21]

Glad its all cleared out and construction is beginning. Good luck bob, I was hoping the joking would get you moving in high gear.

 

[Bob Smith]

Glad its all cleared out and construction is beginning. Good luck bob, I was hoping the joking would get you moving in high gear.

I'm 6'3, 250, and lazy.......I don't have a "high gear"

Making progress, though - look for my new video I'm posting in a minute; got some questions specifically for you on there.

 

[quickrip]

OUTSTANDING! I too enjoyed the purple hue on the piss. Beautiful buds dude.

 

[howak47]

here's my harvest pics. Just finished an figured i'd share. Took 7 hours for 3 people to trim. The buds are the most dense i've ever grown. Solid as rocks. I ended up with almost a full 13gal garbage bag full of leaf trim and i am cutting down all of the lower growth in a few days and will make more hash with it and the leaf trim. From past experiance it looks to be around the same amount of herb(roughly a pound) and i should get about 2.5oz of hash from all the trim and popcorn buds. Keep in mind this is only the piss harvest(half the room). The blue kush will be harvested in about 4 weeks.

hell yea man that shit looks so dank nice purple tone to it !!! Great job bro keep up the good grows!!! I want to know the yield off that when u get it all dry!! Peace & 420

 

[#1Raiderfan420]

Very nice work Integra! They definatley look nice and dense. I totally agree on the long cure brining out the best of the bud. 30 days in jars really makes for some smooth smoke.
I can smell that shit from here man

 

[rastadred22]

dammnnnn! looks great

 

[wheeelman]

What's up integra....this is an incredible grow!!! Did you draw out anything on how you train and direct the plant for this 4 plant setup??? I'd be interested to see how you fanned them out so perfectly....that is an incredible yield for 4 plants!!! I mean your canopy is so dense...how many times are you topping each plant?

 

[Integra21]

What's up integra....this is an incredible grow!!! Did you draw out anything on how you train and direct the plant for this 4 plant setup??? I'd be interested to see how you fanned them out so perfectly....that is an incredible yield for 4 plants!!! I mean your canopy is so dense...how many times are you topping each plant?

I actually get asked that a lot, so Im going to make a pic tut on it when I start these Madonna's in about a week. As far as the actual training, I never top any plant, just gets rid of a good bud site I could be getting herb from. I dont super crop or anything like that either, at least not on purpose. I do brake the occasional branch ad sometimes it seems like the growth is better and sometimes it seems worse. But anyways, with the training into the screen, I generally start out with small to medium clones(6"-18"). I put them into the flower room and flip the lights the same day, which means no training into the screen before 12/12. The small clones generally arent even touching the screen when the lights get flipped(Blue Kush this run) and the larger ones(Piss this run) usually only have 3-4 branches that actually poke through the screen. When a branch pokes through the screen by about 2"-4" I pull it back underneath(no weaving) and move it to the next hole further away from the branch. I repeat this process on all branches throughout the entire flower stretch. It keeps the canopy very even and level. And in a nut shell, thats how I fill my screen. I determine how many plants to use based on clone size when Im putting them in the flower room. This grow for example, I had 4 medium(14") Piss clones that filled out the screen pretty well(there was a small open spot in the back middle, not normal for me)but I had never grown this strain in my setup and expected them to stretch more than they did. And on the Blue Kush side, I used 5 small clones(6"-10") and they actually stretched more than I expected and are on the verge of overfilling my screen. The last run was a little easier to see, where I ran 3 medium Blue Kush clones(18") on the left side and 6 small Blue Kush clones(6"-8") on the right side. Both sides the screen was fully filled out and both sides yielded a pound each with only a 6g variance. On this up comming Madonna run, I will be running 6 small(6") clones. I have also never run this strain in my setup and have no idea what the strech in flower would be, but Im just taking a guess based of how it grows in veg(the mother) Hope this helps, and when I get to it I will have the training tut up. Feel free to browes through the hole journal, my last 5 grows are in it. There is a ton of info and even more pics. And if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

 

[Integra21]

Very nice work Integra! They definatley look nice and dense. I totally agree on the long cure brining out the best of the bud. 30 days in jars really makes for some smooth smoke.
I can smell that shit from here man

Thanks Raider. Have you noticed that when your buds are jaring for around 6 months they all get the same generic smell until broken up? I know it sounds crazy too, but I swear these buds have turned more purple since I cut them. I guess we'll find out when I take some dried bud shots.

dammnnnn! looks great

Thanks. Hard work looks like its paying off. Stay tuned for more after this brief break.

 

[wheeelman]

I actually get asked that a lot, so Im going to make a pic tut on it when I start these Madonna's in about a week. As far as the actual training, I never top any plant, just gets rid of a good bud site I could be getting herb from. I dont super crop or anything like that either, at least not on purpose. I do brake the occasional branch ad sometimes it seems like the growth is better and sometimes it seems worse. But anyways, with the training into the screen, I generally start out with small to medium clones(6"-18"). I put them into the flower room and flip the lights the same day, which means no training into the screen before 12/12. The small clones generally arent even touching the screen when the lights get flipped(Blue Kush this run) and the larger ones(Piss this run) usually only have 3-4 branches that actually poke through the screen. When a branch pokes through the screen by about 2"-4" I pull it back underneath(no weaving) and move it to the next hole further away from the branch. I repeat this process on all branches throughout the entire flower stretch. It keeps the canopy very even and level. And in a nut shell, thats how I fill my screen. I determine how many plants to use based on clone size when Im putting them in the flower room. This grow for example, I had 4 medium(14") Piss clones that filled out the screen pretty well(there was a small open spot in the back middle, not normal for me)but I had never grown this strain in my setup and expected them to stretch more than they did. And on the Blue Kush side, I used 5 small clones(6"-10") and they actually stretched more than I expected and are on the verge of overfilling my screen. The last run was a little easier to see, where I ran 3 medium Blue Kush clones(18") on the left side and 6 small Blue Kush clones(6"-8") on the right side. Both sides the screen was fully filled out and both sides yielded a pound each with only a 6g variance. On this up comming Madonna run, I will be running 6 small(6") clones. I have also never run this strain in my setup and have no idea what the strech in flower would be, but Im just taking a guess based of how it grows in veg(the mother) Hope this helps, and when I get to it I will have the training tut up. Feel free to browes through the hole journal, my last 5 grows are in it. There is a ton of info and even more pics. And if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks for taking the time to write that out for me...I have a very good idea now. This will be my first indoor grow and I'm working with roughly the same area you are for you flower area but I'm still deciding on SCROG or not. I do have about 48" of height to work with so I could just do a normal grow with a couple more plants per light. I do like the option of a perpetual grow also...hmmm I just don't know. I'm just starting to acquire all my equipment, my plan is to start out with a 48x48x48 area(height is actually about 70" but I figure with the lamps my max grow height will be 48". Get two to three strains (clones from someone) and grow them into mothers and then I will be set to start cloning.

To start I'm going line the area with white poly and set it up with a 48" T5 fixture for vegging, everyone keeps telling me get an 8 bulb fixture but seems like overkill for veg (what do you think) and then flower them with a 600w HPS. Once I get them dialed in I will expand the area to 4' x 8' and add a second 600w HPS and have a new area vegging my clones. Will pretty much mimic yours and any others setup. The only major decisions I have left is whether I will use soil or a bubble system and whether I will do SCROG or regular grow...anyway any advice you have is appreciated!

 

[whodatnation]

I actually get asked that a lot, so Im going to make a pic tut on it when I start these Madonna's in about a week. As far as the actual training, I never top any plant, just gets rid of a good bud site I could be getting herb from. I dont super crop or anything like that either, at least not on purpose. I do brake the occasional branch ad sometimes it seems like the growth is better and sometimes it seems worse. But anyways, with the training into the screen, I generally start out with small to medium clones(6"-18"). I put them into the flower room and flip the lights the same day, which means no training into the screen before 12/12. The small clones generally arent even touching the screen when the lights get flipped(Blue Kush this run) and the larger ones(Piss this run) usually only have 3-4 branches that actually poke through the screen. When a branch pokes through the screen by about 2"-4" I pull it back underneath(no weaving) and move it to the next hole further away from the branch. I repeat this process on all branches throughout the entire flower stretch. It keeps the canopy very even and level. And in a nut shell, thats how I fill my screen. I determine how many plants to use based on clone size when Im putting them in the flower room. This grow for example, I had 4 medium(14") Piss clones that filled out the screen pretty well(there was a small open spot in the back middle, not normal for me)but I had never grown this strain in my setup and expected them to stretch more than they did. And on the Blue Kush side, I used 5 small clones(6"-10") and they actually stretched more than I expected and are on the verge of overfilling my screen. The last run was a little easier to see, where I ran 3 medium Blue Kush clones(18") on the left side and 6 small Blue Kush clones(6"-8") on the right side. Both sides the screen was fully filled out and both sides yielded a pound each with only a 6g variance. On this up comming Madonna run, I will be running 6 small(6") clones. I have also never run this strain in my setup and have no idea what the strech in flower would be, but Im just taking a guess based of how it grows in veg(the mother) Hope this helps, and when I get to it I will have the training tut up. Feel free to browes through the hole journal, my last 5 grows are in it. There is a ton of info and even more pics. And if you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Thank you so much for taking the time to post this.

 

[wheeelman]

Thank you so much for taking the time to post this.

Saints fan eh...born and raised cajun right here! Living in Cali now though!

 

[Integra21]

Thanks for taking the time to write that out for me...I have a very good idea now. This will be my first indoor grow and I'm working with roughly the same area you are for you flower area but I'm still deciding on SCROG or not. I do have about 48" of height to work with so I could just do a normal grow with a couple more plants per light. I do like the option of a perpetual grow also...hmmm I just don't know. I'm just starting to acquire all my equipment, my plan is to start out with a 48x48x48 area(height is actually about 70" but I figure with the lamps my max grow height will be 48". Get two to three strains (clones from someone) and grow them into mothers and then I will be set to start cloning.

To start I'm going line the area with white poly and set it up with a 48" T5 fixture for vegging, everyone keeps telling me get an 8 bulb fixture but seems like overkill for veg (what do you think) and then flower them with a 600w HPS. Once I get them dialed in I will expand the area to 4' x 8' and add a second 600w HPS and have a new area vegging my clones. Will pretty much mimic yours and any others setup. The only major decisions I have left is whether I will use soil or a bubble system and whether I will do SCROG or regular grow...anyway any advice you have is appreciated!

Sounds like you got your planning stage going very well. You said it was your first indoor, does thins mean you have grown MJ before and know how to read what your girls need? I did a ton of research and as the title states, went balls out on my first attempt. If you have the time to keep a close eye on them and dont mind doing the work, hydro with a scrog is the way to go. But if you'd only be able to check on them once or twice a day, soil with a scrog is the way to go. This is only in the begenning. Once you got your shit figured out and dialed in its not that much work. I spend about 10 minutes in my room twice a day and one day a week put in a 30-60 minute work session in. But in the first run, It was more like three 30 minute check ups a day and a couple hour sessions a week. I just spent the extra time giving my girls a real good look over and making sure all the ph and ppms were as spot on as I could get them. So let me know how much time you can spend in there a day or week and that will really be the determining factor. I will be happy to help you with which ever setup you choose. And the scrog should be in there for sure. It is so easy to do and you wouldnt believe what it can do for your yields.

Thank you so much for taking the time to post this.

Your Welcome Whodat. Always happy when anyone finds my info helpful.

 

[wheeelman]

Sounds like you got your planning stage going very well. You said it was your first indoor, does thins mean you have grown MJ before and know how to read what your girls need? I did a ton of research and as the title states, went balls out on my first attempt. If you have the time to keep a close eye on them and dont mind doing the work, hydro with a scrog is the way to go. But if you'd only be able to check on them once or twice a day, soil with a scrog is the way to go. This is only in the begenning. Once you got your shit figured out and dialed in its not that much work. I spend about 10 minutes in my room twice a day and one day a week put in a 30-60 minute work session in. But in the first run, It was more like three 30 minute check ups a day and a couple hour sessions a week. I just spent the extra time giving my girls a real good look over and making sure all the ph and ppms were as spot on as I could get them. So let me know how much time you can spend in there a day or week and that will really be the determining factor. I will be happy to help you with which ever setup you choose. And the scrog should be in there for sure. It is so easy to do and you wouldnt believe what it can do for your yields.

Thanks man I would love some input from you...your setup is killer. Lets just say I have plenty of time, I am full time telecommuter (work from home) so I can spend 20-30 minutes a few times a day no problem. Oh and I do have some grow experience but outdoor and in soil...came very easy to me, but I am an information whore so that may be why. I spend hours researching things before following through.

I would say my only limitation would be marginal startup investment. I want to get mostly the essentials to start and acquire as I am able to fund it through donations and what not. As for SCROG, I think I am sold on that....I really like the DWC but I'm concerned about the initial investment, but then again having to buy all the soil I may not be far off from just going DWC from jump.

 

[cruzer101]

No kidding, I always thought you went a week or two in veg before flipping.