I tried those Exhale bags and didn't see the same results as I have been seeing with Co2Boost.. it's just a mushroom kit in a bag labeled as a Co2 generator, lame. I'm sure they are producing some Co2, but the boost bucket comes with a pump and hose system and I think that makes a huge difference.
Exhale Co2 Bags?
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Serapis
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Why not just spray your leaves with seltzer water? It has carbon dioxide in it and the plants can take it out of the water if sprayed on leaves. Just remember to raise your hood before misting the leaves. There are plenty of forums and sites and blogs that swear it works. Of course it may be cheaper to use one of these mushroom co2 generators, I haven't done the math. The plants should be misted twice a day with seltzer water. Because the co2 is bonded with the water, ventilation can continue. This method is probably only ideal in a closet.
AudiA6Driver
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these bags are the shit my buddy has 4 bags in a 8x8 ish room and his ppm is 1500 with vents on! no joke im buying 4 for my room tomorrow, funny i randomly find this thread the day before i buy them.
jimbizzzale67123
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I still haven't tried them yet.
jimbizzzale67123
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lol thats like saying hey open a 24pack of soda and just leave them in their.
Serapis
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You want to explain that comment and how you find it similar to foliar feeding Co2 or are you just being naive? You might want to google it and check out the reference before you come back with a smart ass reply...
And the spelling for that use is "there" not their.
AudiA6Driver
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pwned!!! +rep
RavenMochi
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jimbizzzale67123
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You believe everything you read on the internet. and what about when your plants flower why would you risk the chane of mold by spraying the plants. This sounds so inefficient I couldn't imagine siting over my plants spraying them down every single leaf. Why dont you take a couple of botany classes and you would know that spraying them with Seltzer water is a really ineffective way of provideing plants with CO2. So give a good suggestion and not something you googled. Really opening bottles of seltzer is a waist of plastic waist of money and just a bad suggestion. Useing sugar water and yeast will at least provide a constant flow of co2 for a few days Google it bro.
jimbizzzale67123
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LOL pwned for what grammar who the fuck cares about a silly mistake like that what the fuck is this the grammar forums no its RIU. I dont like spending time making sure my fellow potheads get 100% correct grammar I have my degree bro. His seltzer water idea is retarded and possibly the worst suggestion to get CO2 I have ever heard. Why not just spray perriar on your plants that shit is like 5 bucks a bottle.
jimbizzzale67123
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well they didn't reply for weeks and then the price was so cheap it sounded good I never bought them so who cares.Your conviction is awe inspiring
jimbizzzale67123
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this is what I found on google.
Ensuring that the air in your room is exchanged every 5 minutes or less and having an oscillating fan in your area to move fresh air will replinish the layer of CO2 that naturally resides around the leaf surface. This is one of the most beneficial ways to intro CO2 into your system.
Like Shaman, I'm not big on misting either. The misting w/plain water thing has always escaped me. There's no need..and it promotes diseases, IMO.
With that said, I do, however, occasionally foliar feed with Metanaturals Nitrogen in veg...and then Nitrozime (0-4-4) in flower. This grow also adding in some AN Scorpion Piss...again at the rec of a friend. Many feel foliar feeding w/ a kelp based formulation increases harvest yield. Um...it can't hurt..so I go for it.
The ONLY other time I mist is to look for spider mite webbing.
I'm also not big on the "home" CO2 yeast set up. whatta mess...and who can prove benefit?
MOST growers will be better off spending their time wotrking on VENTILATION or other aspects of the grow rather than making scant amounts of CO2 via a bowl/bucket of smelly yeast mix.
CO2 is highly beneficial, but I doubt those home systems can come ANYWHERE near a tank/regulator set up or a propane generator....and they sure aren't monitorable or controllable. In the end, the user has NO IDEA how much CO2..if any..is being released into their garden using the home-yeast method. With a tank/reg set up or a generator, the OPTIMAL amount of CO2 can be introduced...no guessing..no mess...no foolin yerself and wastin time.
seltzer water is a waste of cash. Don't bother. Spend the time TWEEKING yer room in other ways is my advice...and skip the home remedies and myths.
Ensuring that the air in your room is exchanged every 5 minutes or less and having an oscillating fan in your area to move fresh air will replinish the layer of CO2 that naturally resides around the leaf surface. This is one of the most beneficial ways to intro CO2 into your system.
Like Shaman, I'm not big on misting either. The misting w/plain water thing has always escaped me. There's no need..and it promotes diseases, IMO.
With that said, I do, however, occasionally foliar feed with Metanaturals Nitrogen in veg...and then Nitrozime (0-4-4) in flower. This grow also adding in some AN Scorpion Piss...again at the rec of a friend. Many feel foliar feeding w/ a kelp based formulation increases harvest yield. Um...it can't hurt..so I go for it.
The ONLY other time I mist is to look for spider mite webbing.
I'm also not big on the "home" CO2 yeast set up. whatta mess...and who can prove benefit?
MOST growers will be better off spending their time wotrking on VENTILATION or other aspects of the grow rather than making scant amounts of CO2 via a bowl/bucket of smelly yeast mix.
CO2 is highly beneficial, but I doubt those home systems can come ANYWHERE near a tank/regulator set up or a propane generator....and they sure aren't monitorable or controllable. In the end, the user has NO IDEA how much CO2..if any..is being released into their garden using the home-yeast method. With a tank/reg set up or a generator, the OPTIMAL amount of CO2 can be introduced...no guessing..no mess...no foolin yerself and wastin time.
seltzer water is a waste of cash. Don't bother. Spend the time TWEEKING yer room in other ways is my advice...and skip the home remedies and myths.
Serapis
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People spray their leaves anyway smart ass, it's called foliar feeding, look it up master gardener. Instead of advising me to take botany classes, you should learn to do a lil research before opening your mouth.
Who said anything about spraying anything on anything in a flowering phase? I don't believe I advocated any such thing. In fact, if you would take the time to search for the right key words on Google, one of them being UNIVERSITY, you'll find that agro studies HAVE been done on the benefits of seltzer water to plants. The fact that you are knocking this method without having researched it tells me that you are ignorant or closed minded, or maybe both. I sure hate to have to do research for ignorant people, especially when they attempt to debunk pure science without a clue, but here goes....
Colorado State University : Carbonated water contains phosphorous, potassium, sulfur and sodium, which are nutrients that plants need for healthy growth. A test performed by the University of Colorado at Boulder showed that plants watered with carbonated water grew faster and developed a darker green color.
http://www.gardenguides.com/86421-water-plants-carbonated-water/
http://spot.colorado.edu/~basey/ldanzell.html
http://tutorials.carbonatedseltzerwater.com/carbonated-and-distilled/carbonated-water/effect-of-carbonated-water-on-plants/
At least I can provide a few sources to back up my mouth, where are yours? You are right, one can't believe everything one reads on the internet, your post is pure proof of that.
Serapis
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That is an asinine suggestion and analogy. Why don't you take up your own advice and try a little Google. The fact that seltzer water contains phosphorous, Potassium, carbon dioxide, sulfur, hydrogen and oxygen should make it a no brainer for anyone, even an idiot like you who attempts to debunk beneficial ideas simply because he is too stupid to try it or look it up. I don't think he was repping for my grammar, just more proof that you just don't get it.
jimbizzzale67123
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so say a 16oz bottle cost $3.00 and you have to use four just to water one plant and then you have to do it twice a week for 15 weeks that comes out too $360.00 for one fucking plant. Have fun spending that much money I never said it didn't work I said it wasn't practical and isn't very efficient. I think I just proved my point and you can tell me again how it works but its a waist of money so have fun bro with your seltzer water. I use botaicare nutrients and fox farm ocean forest and I grow just fine, and I am not throwing away 1,000's of bottles of carbonated water into landfills. You are living a pipe dream if you think the amount of marijuana you gain from adding seltzer water is worth the cost of the seltzer water its self. I know what foliar feeding is too and dont patronize me and again dont waist your time telling me how it works I read that.
jimbizzzale67123
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you really took my simple little joke about your expensive asinine idea instead of letting it roll off your shoulder you act like a ass trying to belittle me and acting like a know it all. Just showing again that you just dont get it. And I really think you dont know what an analogy is or asinine because your initial suggestion was the asinine suggestion and my analogy was the truth seltzer is a luxury.
Serapis
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No, you don't get it. A CO2 tank and enviro control unit are a luxury.
Seltzer water is about $0.79 a bottle, is misted on leaves where evaporating CO2 is used. Those numbers of hundreds of dollars you pulled out of your rear are BS. I might go through 3 bottles a week at a cost of $2.40 to provide my plant micro nutrients and some CO2. Your argument looks pretty silly now. I gave ya sources, you make up figures, I prove you wrong yet again. Why do you continue? It has been proven to be beneficial, and if someone wants to spray their plants with seltzer water, more power to them. Sorry that doesn't satisfy your need to control what others do.
All your doing at this point is displaying ignorance.
RavenMochi
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And the winner is.....
SERAPIS!!! *crowd goes wild*
well that was fun...what else is on?
SERAPIS!!! *crowd goes wild*
well that was fun...what else is on?
jimbizzzale67123
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I'm not ignorant bro I'm sure it works what kind of idiot doesn't think co2 and some of the 14 elements marijuana use is good for plants im just saying its stupid and expensive, great some student at boulder university found out it helps slightly lol groundbreaking. I'm looking to grow big buds and I'm gonna stick to my nutrients, my micro-nutrients, my molasses, my fresh air, and my fucking tap water bro. You have fun getting tiny ass traces of nutrients from seltzer water and tiny ass traces of co2 from it too. Ill be growing with [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]earthworm castings, bat guano, and Pacific Northwest sea-going fish and crab meal. Composted forest humus, sandy loam, and sphagnum peat moss and then my nutrients and micronutirents DOES YOUR SELTZER HAVE THAT IN IT?
I have stated many time's its expensive and not worth it nothing about it not working, if Jorge Cervantez said it worked I would do it but guess what its no where in his Marijuana Horticulture Bible.
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Any day of the week I grantee you that I will grow better plants with steady fresh air and nutrients that are made for plants over your stupid seltzer water trick. If you take that bet your the ignorant one that can get back to growing with seltzer water that usually comes in 12oz or 16oz bottles for $1.50 at the the least to $3.00 a bottle.