PC Case grow - Stealth + Perpetual + LST

[gumball]

Oh, sorry to hear, I guess it turned out male

If you remember without having to go through your journal, what do you think the problems were with the white label NL that caused them to die? I want an NL so bad, I think I will try Nirvanas first, a little more affordable. I hate to be cheap about seeds, but them damn things cost so much!! My wife looks at me stupid whenever I bring it up. But I found her one, psicodelicia I think. Has coffee and caramel aromas/flavor. She's a coffee nut!!

 

[v12xjs]

Prolly sounds stupid but from the moment the seeds cracked they seemed allergic to water. I killed 1 by putting it in a moist rootriot cube. The following morning it looked like a fountain, just pumping water out between the cotelydons really slowly. Another seemed to drown while it was germing. I checked it and saw a small tail so I put it back for a few hours and it was dead when I checked again.
All the other plants were tough to deal with because it's a really heavy feeder but always responds badly to water. Most of the people who shared it rated it as the strongest they had ever smoked though and I liked it a lot.


EDIT: Forgot to say I love coffee too, so I'll check out that strain. I have a little FrancisFrancis X1 to wake me up each day, maybe that's why I like a couchlock at night

 

[maturesmoker]

I want an NL so bad, I think I will try Nirvanas first, a little more affordable. I hate to be cheap about seeds, but them damn things cost so much!!

I hate reading these reports of failed seeds, especially when from the more expensive seedbanks. You know Gumball, I have used Nirvana seeds for over 10 years now off and on and NEVER had a bad one or one that failed to germinate, honestly! Quality of the Nirvana NL is very good, (well at least it got me well stoned every spliff I smoked ) I think given the years they have been established and working with seeds they have got things well under control. Give them a try, you wont regret it.

V12, cheers for the cider recipe, I'll be making a start today Very strange about those seeds, something well amiss there.

 

[gumball]

I hate reading these reports of failed seeds, especially when from the more expensive seedbanks. You know Gumball, I have used Nirvana seeds for over 10 years now off and on and NEVER had a bad one or one that failed to germinate, honestly! Quality of the Nirvana NL is very good, (well at least it got me well stoned every spliff I smoked ) I think given the years they have been established and working with seeds they have got things well under control. Give them a try, you wont regret it.

V12, cheers for the cider recipe, I'll be making a start today Very strange about those seeds, something well amiss there.

thanks mature, i couldnt get much better a rating from anyone else.

v12, i know you mentioned not having a home for the clones. have you ever thought of building an armoir type grow box like maturesmoker? you could use it to flower, and your pc for clones, and still be rather stealthy. i know matures may be a tad big for your needs probably, but the one I attached may be just right. then just set your television on top and voila. just something i thought about and wanted to share.

 

[farmboss]

hey v12, nice work. was wondering your personal opinion on this.


would you think you could do a pc grow like yours here, but use maybe a 150w HPS for flowering?

i was thinking maybe put glass on top of the PC, put the light (thinking an enclosed sun systems) on top of the glass, and maybe add a small fan to cool it and keep its heat away from the case. kinda thinking here to REMOVE the heat from the light from the case, not having to worry about it after doing that.

do you think just the radiant heat from the beams of a 150w HPS would heat it up too much?

 

[gumball]

hey v12, nice work. was wondering your personal opinion on this.


would you think you could do a pc grow like yours here, but use maybe a 150w HPS for flowering?

i was thinking maybe put glass on top of the PC, put the light (thinking an enclosed sun systems) on top of the glass, and maybe add a small fan to cool it and keep its heat away from the case. kinda thinking here to REMOVE the heat from the light from the case, not having to worry about it after doing that.

do you think just the radiant heat from the beams of a 150w HPS would heat it up too much?

hey farmboss, whats happening! well v12 can definitely give you great advice, but i too have HID in a PC (100 watt CMH) and thought I would lend my thoughts, hope thats ok. i think unless you have 1.5-2 sq ft a 150 watt HPS would be out of the questions, IMO. but, in an average size case, i think one of the 70 watt HPS you see at lowes and homedepot for cheap would work great! dont forget you have to maintain the ballast somewhere, so keep that, and the heat it produces in mind. plus with the 70 watt HPS, you can maybe add cfls for daylight temp lighting. these are just my thoughts, hope they help you out.

 

[farmboss]

My idea would be that the case and the light would be separated by a glass window. Are you familiar with the sun system 150w HPS? the light, reflector, and ballast are all one.

the ballast would vent out the top of the fixture, a good 8" higher than the top of the PC case.

i would modify the sun system enclosed ballast/reflector to have a small hole, to maybe put a case fan, just to ENSURE that no heat permiates down to the box.

FYI, i am VERY VERY familiar with the 150 and the 70watt fixtures you are talking about, and how much heat they generate. i HAVE used a home depot 50 or 70 watt HPS before.

 

[crazytrain14]

hey farm how hot do the 70 w hps get in a cpu case? i have a 125w cfl in it now.

peace

 

[v12xjs]

Sorry guys, been away for a few days.

Hey gum, I wish I had the space to do something just a little bigger but I don't. The pc will have to do for now.

Thanks farmboss.
Heat isn't the problem with a 150w, it's the light that would hurt the plants.
I work on the basis that the max output of the sun measured at the surface of the earth is 10,000 lumens per square foot. This is only in places like Death Valley or the Sahara, so I figure 9,500 lumens per sq ft is the max the plants will thrive in. A 100w HPS will output that figure but a 150w would be closer to 15,000 lumens and the plants wouldn't do well.
You could still use it but you need to keep it further from the plants than most pc cases would allow or as gumball says, spread the light over a larger area. Cheers gum.

 

[kilpox]

What you think about white widow,v12? I'm micro grower too,but i have more space than pc case. Need your advice,becouse i never grow White Widow,but i dream about that strain.

 

[v12xjs]

Hey kilpox
I love White Widow and it's the first stash I buy when I get to Amsterdam. I've never grown it myself but have seen it cultivated indoors a few times. It seems easy to grow and it's very compact but maybe not the best yielder.
I haven't tried it in the case because it needs at least 70 days flowering and that's just too long for me. If I had a few extra inches of space or I was looking to do a scrog grow I'd definitely consider it though.

 

["SICC"]

how things going?

 

[v12xjs]

Greets SICC.
It's all good but it's a bit manic atm, I'm trying to get a crop asap to keep me smiling and I'm also trying to switch over to clones so I kind of have 2 grows in the box just now.
I'm using your party cup grows as a bit of a template for the new clone plants so I'll be rereading a lot of your posts in the next week or 2. Hope I can do as well as you.

Lights have just come on so here's what it looks like in there, the biggest plant is just over 8 weeks old so it's gonna get even more cramped in there soon

 

[gumball]

HOLY SHIT BUD!!! I have never seen that case that fool, bravo!! you shall be harvesting something soon. and the blocked out lighting is perfect for the clones at the bottom. you need a lamp that is translucent which you can store your clones in during veg light, or a very bushy houseplant which you could hang by a window, then just hide your clones under the over hang!!!

anyhows, looks great, i bet your glad to see it that way.

 

[v12xjs]

Cheers gum, it's good to see some frost again
You're right about the clones tucked away under the canopy, they love it there!
I've got the fixtures to kit out a little clone box so I'll prolly do that tomorrow just so I can keep it manageable.

 

[Phase420]

looking freaking awesome!!

 

[maturesmoker]

Beautiful once again V12 back with a vengenance. Everything looks so healthy. Funny you mention SICC's PC thread as I'm also using it as a reference for my small pot grow. What did you settle on for a clone box? I know you had considered the monitor, are you going with that idea?

 

[gumball]

Yeah, a monitor with that glass you can only see through in one direction would be great. That glass is prolly expensive as get out!!

 

["SICC"]

The cups will be perfect for the clones, i got 5 clones sitting in cups right now.

 

[CHIEF PUFF PUFF]

Hey V, looking very blue in that pc case You should be smoking soon! What size containers are you using? They look perfect for your case.