TrynaGroSumShyt
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everytime i see VK its getting praised! great job(again)
SouthernWeed's First at RIU. Violator Kush/H&G Nutrients
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SouthernWeed
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Thanks for the kind words.
Yes, the VK is a great strain. Easy to grow, high quality and good yields.
The posted pics today were, of course, the Purple Wreck, but it won't be long before those four VK look as good.
SouthernWeed
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Quick update today.
Plants are booming right along. VK are stretching gaining measurable height and bud sites every day. Elongation of the new growth fan leaves has begun as well, a nod to the Malana in it's heritage. Some people wouldn't like that, it adds a couple weeks to the flower, but I love that sativa influence. Keeps me from feeling mentally asleep.
PW still has me a little boggled, flowering at a lunatic rate...plants aren't supposed to look like that two weeks into flower, but there we are and I'm certainly not complaining. I try not to think about what the girl's going to look like when the real flower stimulants (Bud XL/Shooting Powder) are added into the feed regime.
Pics of the day...
Y'all have a great day.
Plants are booming right along. VK are stretching gaining measurable height and bud sites every day. Elongation of the new growth fan leaves has begun as well, a nod to the Malana in it's heritage. Some people wouldn't like that, it adds a couple weeks to the flower, but I love that sativa influence. Keeps me from feeling mentally asleep.
PW still has me a little boggled, flowering at a lunatic rate...plants aren't supposed to look like that two weeks into flower, but there we are and I'm certainly not complaining. I try not to think about what the girl's going to look like when the real flower stimulants (Bud XL/Shooting Powder) are added into the feed regime.
Pics of the day...
Y'all have a great day.
ForevaLovinJah
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I can stare at that for hours. I just want to pan left in pic #3. 
Looking great man.
Looking great man.
SouthernWeed
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Well my man, you weren't very specific there so I took a couple of close-ups of the particular bud that was intruding into frame...a Purple Wreck bud, and then, just to be safe, I took a picture of the entire PW plant.
Hope you enjoy, it's all part of the service here at SouthernWeed's Dirty South Growers Academy.
Hope you enjoy, it's all part of the service here at SouthernWeed's Dirty South Growers Academy.
ForevaLovinJah
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Its amazing thats two weeks in. Unreal, i must know your secret... lol
SouthernWeed
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My man, I'm shocked also. My opinion is the long veg primed her to go hard into flower...her clones act nothing like this at all. Very slow getting going, small, low yielding plants are the norm.
This experience is actually causing me to reevaluate some of my methods. While I've accepted the varying lengths of flower as being just the cost of growing various strains, I have been running a "cookie cutter" veg cycle...four week regardless of strain...and that may be holding me back some.
If there's anything I do different than most, it's the gradual reduction of light time as I come from 18/6 to 12/12. I cut 15 minutes off the front and back of the light cycle for 12 days until I hit 12/12, at which time pretty much all my plants are showing pre-flowers and are ready to jump into full on flower. Remember, the sun just doesn't change it's on/off time all at once, neither should you.
Weedoozie
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Hey southernweed, nice grow. I've read through your journal and I saw the pictures of the roots as well but I do not see the bacteria coating you were talking about. Do you mind pointing it out for me? I'd like to increase my knowledge and I appreciate any help you can give. Thanks
SouthernWeed
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Post #22, last pic, look at the runner roots, not the new growth. It's really not the very best picture, I should have raised the res lid some more, but the darkened, brown looking roots are the inoculated root system. The three ingredient combo had already been discontinued at this point, but the residual coating is still there. When I'm using the full mix...the first six weeks, the roots are black...I mean like midnight, Brother. It's quite an adjustment in thinking to see roots look like that and accept it as normal, but it is.
Check out my next grow, starting in just a few weeks, and I'll make a special point of getting some very clear pictures of the root system as it takes on the coating...it's really something to see.
Weedoozie
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Oh missed that, thanks for clarifying
Looking forward to seeing pictures of black roots!
P.S. I'm a girl
SouthernWeed
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D'oh! If I had bothered to look in on your greenhouse grow first, I'd have known that.I'm a girl
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No pics today, just words.
Gave the PW her feeding this morning, she's got to be hungry as hell, both colas, from the topping, have completely closed up 9" down and they will fatten up quite nicely once I put my foot in their collective asses in a couple weeks.
VK...what can I say. The branches have completely emerged from the heavy leaf cover and now the bud show will get going in full force now. Next week they will really be getting impressive.
Y'all have a great day.
Weedoozie
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SouthernWeed
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Me too. It never gets old watching the swell.
SouthernWeed
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Purple Wreck bud pics today. Can you believe we're not even three full weeks into flower? Plants are swelling and adding more and more frost every single day. By way of comparrison, clones cut from this mother didn't have this kind of look until week 5 or thereabouts.
Every limb is going to be tied up today, some of the lateral branches are begining to droop under the weight of the buds, not unusal to have to do that, this is a weak limbed strain regardless of how much wind you put on it trying to stiffen/stregthen the branches...just not used to having to tie off the laterals until week 6.
The VK are rocking along, but I have a minor issue that's cropped up with them. On my last res change I added 5% more multizyme to the mix than the recipe calls for, the thinking behind it was to really open up the plant after the initial budset. However, what seems to have happened is I overwhelmed the PH buffering in the A&B base mix, and it caused some pretty wild PH swings over the last couple of days...never really going out of range, but causing some pretty serious leaf curl...so much for brilliant thought. I've swapped out the res this AM, even though the res was scheduled to be changed Sunday, and I expect all will quickly return to normal. I guess after growing this strain so many times, I was looking to do something different to try to improve the grow...extra Multizyme was evidently the wrong thing. No worries though, all will be just fine.
Anyhow, here's those pics...they're starting to look pretty damn sexy.
That's the show for today. Hope y'all enjoy it.
Every limb is going to be tied up today, some of the lateral branches are begining to droop under the weight of the buds, not unusal to have to do that, this is a weak limbed strain regardless of how much wind you put on it trying to stiffen/stregthen the branches...just not used to having to tie off the laterals until week 6.
The VK are rocking along, but I have a minor issue that's cropped up with them. On my last res change I added 5% more multizyme to the mix than the recipe calls for, the thinking behind it was to really open up the plant after the initial budset. However, what seems to have happened is I overwhelmed the PH buffering in the A&B base mix, and it caused some pretty wild PH swings over the last couple of days...never really going out of range, but causing some pretty serious leaf curl...so much for brilliant thought. I've swapped out the res this AM, even though the res was scheduled to be changed Sunday, and I expect all will quickly return to normal. I guess after growing this strain so many times, I was looking to do something different to try to improve the grow...extra Multizyme was evidently the wrong thing. No worries though, all will be just fine.
Anyhow, here's those pics...they're starting to look pretty damn sexy.
That's the show for today. Hope y'all enjoy it.
Weedoozie
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Beautiful! Very frosty and looking tasty. Are the PW purple in some places?
So I have a few question for you: comparing your years of experience growing outdoors with growing hydro, which one in your opinion is better overall? As in less hassle with more rewards, if that exists
Have you grown hydro with beneficial bacteria coated roots before this time? Success rate?
Thanks for any answers, I'm trying to research the next big frontier in growing but it seems most people are torn between outdoor with soil and indoor with hydro...I've found in researching that hydro tends to harvest faster with sometimes bigger yields if done properly while soil tends to be more forgiving and have great results if given the time to mature fully...but I'm having trouble finding which one could have better overall results given nothing goes wrong...?
So I have a few question for you: comparing your years of experience growing outdoors with growing hydro, which one in your opinion is better overall? As in less hassle with more rewards, if that exists
Have you grown hydro with beneficial bacteria coated roots before this time? Success rate?
Thanks for any answers, I'm trying to research the next big frontier in growing but it seems most people are torn between outdoor with soil and indoor with hydro...I've found in researching that hydro tends to harvest faster with sometimes bigger yields if done properly while soil tends to be more forgiving and have great results if given the time to mature fully...but I'm having trouble finding which one could have better overall results given nothing goes wrong...?
SouthernWeed
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The PW fan leaves are showing some violet hues that just don't picture well yet...especially when I got a bad case of the lazies here lately and have been sleeping until after the lights come on. The color show should begin in earnest in a couple of weeks.
Apples and oranges. Outdoor yielded much, much larger plants. The strain we were working with usually produced around 1 3/4 pounds dry weight per plant. However, you are a prisoner of wildlife and weather...and you get one shot a year, have a failure of any sort and your year is done. Indoor hydro growing allows for 4-5 really nice crops every year, but yields are much less per plant. Depending on strain, I usually yield between 4-6 ounces per plant.
Yes. Since I converted to the complete H&G line, I have used it every single grow. Success rate? I'm not really sure how to answer that other than to say that on my typical grows I'm averaging about .87-.89 grams per watt which translates out to over 18 ounces per flower cycle. I consider that successful for an indoor grow of mys size.
Yes and no. There is some speed gain to be had, but this, like many things in growing, is completely strain dependant...some like it more than others, but a reasonable expectation is to harvest 1-3 weeks sooner with hydro, with the vast majority of the gain being realized in the veg cycle.
This part is pure opinion, but I think soil plants taste and smell much better. This part is absolute fact and anyone who says different is an idiot or a liar...there is no difference in potency. The plant is genetically programmed with a maximum yield/potency and regardless of grow style or grower skill, you'll never exceed that limit. Your job as a grower is to get as close to that predetermined limit as you possibly can. They "Hydro Myth" of increased potency is nothing more than a marketing gimmick by dirt bag weed slingers that many, many people are stupid enough to believe.
Which style is best is up to you to decide. The best outdoor grower I ever knew, couldn't grow algae indoors in a hydro setup, so the choice my be made for you. Experiment with all styles and see what works for you.
Weedoozie
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Thank you so much! Quick reply and answers, that deserves a +rep!
SouthernWeed
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Thanks for the rep. If I can help out with anything, don't hesitate to ask.
SouthernWeed
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Camera's dead, I'll get some pics up later today or tomorrow morning, but the report is good.
Swapping the res yesterday has had the desired effect as 90% of the leaf curl has subsided.
Moving into the 4th week of flower sees the addition of Bud XL to the mix, and I went ahead and advanced the week even though it was two days early. For those interested in following along with the nutrient package I've tossed in a link...just click on the nutrient calculator tab...http://www.house-garden.us/...should've done that sooner.
I'll post some pics soon.
Y'all have a great weekend.
Swapping the res yesterday has had the desired effect as 90% of the leaf curl has subsided.
Moving into the 4th week of flower sees the addition of Bud XL to the mix, and I went ahead and advanced the week even though it was two days early. For those interested in following along with the nutrient package I've tossed in a link...just click on the nutrient calculator tab...http://www.house-garden.us/...should've done that sooner.
I'll post some pics soon.
Y'all have a great weekend.
ForevaLovinJah
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The Wreck is looking gorgeous in your last update! Can't wait to see the final yield of that.
That link is awesome. As someone unfamiliar with H&G nutrients that would help a bunch. Any additions/deletions you have noticed to their lists? May give them a shot on the run after next myself. Slight OCD has me trying new things looking for that 1g/watt we all are searching for.
+Rep for the constant updates. I'm just shocked you aren't getting flooded with posts.
Edit - You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SouthernWeed again. LOL
That link is awesome. As someone unfamiliar with H&G nutrients that would help a bunch. Any additions/deletions you have noticed to their lists? May give them a shot on the run after next myself. Slight OCD has me trying new things looking for that 1g/watt we all are searching for.
+Rep for the constant updates. I'm just shocked you aren't getting flooded with posts.
Edit - You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to SouthernWeed again. LOL