Growing Upside down ( light no the ground ) like top
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upthearsenal
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are you like some fucking elitist scholar...? it's really fucking petty man, go to school? wtf? how presumptous is that? so when you FEEL someone is incorrect they are automatically uneducated? yeah i did state gravity doesn't have an effect on nutrient uptake... and? please, get a fucking life man. you're so highly educated yet you forgot how to formulate a sentence... "so how was that gravity has an effect your point" - that makes no sense.
upthearsenal
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man, the trivialities of this thread are ridiculous, this guy is just insulting just about everyone who wants to simply join in the discussion
REALSTYLES
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You can't grow plants big the Topsy will turvy on you look at what I'm doing one of my plants is over a m/2
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/357800-blue-dream-grand-daddy-purple.html
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/357800-blue-dream-grand-daddy-purple.html
tybudz
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I am not being insulting at all. its just funny how everyone on here acts like they are a botany major. and as to formulating a sentence. I didnt know I was writting a book.dude. who has been insulting?? if anythin you. and I never felt someone is incorrect. I HAVENT DONE IT YET !!!. I am just giving rebutles and asking for experienced growers that have tried this method...want to discuss benies or negatives...
nickfury510
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I never made any claims to this being an advanced technique or gravity having an effect or not. I was simply posting a link to a journal that has tried this.this is an outdoor grow. and you think that is using advanced techniques. common. anything on indoor.
and you dont think gravity has an effect.....
tybudz
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see.... most just start shooting down ideas as most of you have. this guy said...I heard this... I read that...... TRY it. before the discussion was even past the first page people shot down the idea because this guy said or I saw on youtube.... HAS ONE PERSON THAT HAS REPLIED TRIED THIS ??????
tybudz
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and Nickfury. I know that. was just saying that there has to be someone that has put the effort in and gotten results and tried it indoor. see outdoors the sun is still above plant and rootball.
indoor i can put the light on the ground.
see.. i mentioned it looks like the plant in the pick is growing toward the ground and looks like its branches turned up..
would this happen if light was below ??
indoor i can put the light on the ground.
see.. i mentioned it looks like the plant in the pick is growing toward the ground and looks like its branches turned up..
would this happen if light was below ??
upthearsenal
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look man, if you fucking say something like "you state clearly gravity has no effect. so maybe you should go to school" you aren't trying to have a discussion, you're being fucking pompous. people won't fucking discuss something with a patronizing asshole
nickfury510
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well ill tell you what im seeing from my experience in a vertical im doing. the top row of plants are still growing verticaly toward the ceiling, but the leaves are all turned down to the light source. they arent stretching as bad as the bottom row growing up but the growth is still vertical toward the ceiling where there is no light source. ill take a pic later on when my lights turn on.
OZUT
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Honestly dude, how can you compare nutriet uptake to water flowing up or down a hill? When you feed your plant, you're not pouring water down a straw and you're not pushing it up a straw so it doesn't really matter which way gravity is pulling. Nutrients are taken in by the plant as needed. It won't matter if the plant is upside down or sideways...For the sake of argument, let's assume it might make a difference, that difference will be so minute that it won't make any noticable difference and will be a waste of time. Imagine growing more than 1 or 2 plants like that.
Also, as far as the gravity issue, it would work against you in this situation. If your plant is upside down, and assuming you plant it like you would if it was right side up, your roots couldn't grow down because there's no soil there, so they gott grow up while the water goes down. So if you're watering from the top and gravity is pulling the water to the bottom, doesn't really matter if it's upside down or not, now does it?
Let's assume you plant it deeper to give the roots some room to grow down. In this case, what difference would it make if your plant is right side up or upside down if both the roots and the water are being pulled down by gravity the same way if it's right side up.
Also, as far as the gravity issue, it would work against you in this situation. If your plant is upside down, and assuming you plant it like you would if it was right side up, your roots couldn't grow down because there's no soil there, so they gott grow up while the water goes down. So if you're watering from the top and gravity is pulling the water to the bottom, doesn't really matter if it's upside down or not, now does it?
Let's assume you plant it deeper to give the roots some room to grow down. In this case, what difference would it make if your plant is right side up or upside down if both the roots and the water are being pulled down by gravity the same way if it's right side up.
Unnk
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h'okay sir their is a diff between wanting to know about a idea and trying to now prove it you started out asking about the idea now your defending it like its oyur life line okay gravity does not effect the ABSORPTION rate of nutes. if you want your plants to suck more out the soil their in your best bet is to foliar feed the evaporation of liquid off the leaves creates a cellular surface tension causing a increase in the rate of absorption if you said you went to school for physics why arent you accounting for the fact on that scale objects arent effected by gravity so much as surface tension thats why a mosquito can float on water surface tension thats why when you open a pot of stew you just made the water from the steam stays on the lid for the most part. Surface tension sir surface tension.
tigerblowztreez
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stay in school 
Unnk
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think about it this way would water and nuts still be absorbed in to a plant if its sideways ? OF COURSE ! does it mean its gonna do any worse then any normal plant? NO ! the reason is the plants dont grow faster upside left ways right ways and no ways of orientation . think of the plants root systems like ultra strong absorbant tissue
tybudz
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for 1... I am just responding with why I think it would effect it. I DONT KNOW. its not my "lifeline" ...dude. you people.lol. I did not go to school for botany or whatever. and it is a theory. nothing I know.
" think of the plants root systems like ultra strong absorbant tissue "
if holding the tissue in your hand and you beggin to wet the bottom. the water must fight against gravity to move up that tissue. now lets poor a little water. less then you dipped bottom in. the rate at wich water goes threw this "tissue" will be faster from top to bottom then from bottom to top.
" think of the plants root systems like ultra strong absorbant tissue "
if holding the tissue in your hand and you beggin to wet the bottom. the water must fight against gravity to move up that tissue. now lets poor a little water. less then you dipped bottom in. the rate at wich water goes threw this "tissue" will be faster from top to bottom then from bottom to top.
tybudz
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wow...at this level objects are not effected by gravity so much?? Ok.....if you say so...
"thats why a mosquito can float on water surface tension thats why when you open a pot of stew you just made the water from the steam stays on the lid for the most part. Surface tension sir surface tension" please explain !! how does steam condensing have anything to do with what we are talking about.
OZUT
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The different rate you're talking about is so minute that it doesn't make a difference. Again it can't be compared to water moving up or down a hill. Completely different.
The spong theory is a good one to think about. What do you think happens when that sponge is full of capacity, do you think it will continue to absorb water? Don't matter if that sponge is upside down or sideways. So what difference would it make if you pour the water over it or put in in the water to absorb from the bottom?
The spong theory is a good one to think about. What do you think happens when that sponge is full of capacity, do you think it will continue to absorb water? Don't matter if that sponge is upside down or sideways. So what difference would it make if you pour the water over it or put in in the water to absorb from the bottom?
tybudz
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see... i fell that in an indoor grow. if i put the light on the ground and plant upside down. I have taken the earth and turned it upside down. except one thing. instead of gravity working against the plant it is working with the plant. it may be a minute effect to nute uptake but when it comes to bud size density and structure i belive it will have a diff.
One person replied a plants roots know which way is down and the plant knows which way is up.
but indoor I am flipping this upside down. even the light. the roots do grow up..... I have seen this. and in a prev picture posted. it looks as the plant was growing to the ground. except this was outdorr so the sun was always above the rootball.
In my indoor grow the sun will be below the rootball and above the foilage. tricking the plant to thinking down is up !!!
why not?????why would the plant not grow to the light??
One person replied a plants roots know which way is down and the plant knows which way is up.
but indoor I am flipping this upside down. even the light. the roots do grow up..... I have seen this. and in a prev picture posted. it looks as the plant was growing to the ground. except this was outdorr so the sun was always above the rootball.
In my indoor grow the sun will be below the rootball and above the foilage. tricking the plant to thinking down is up !!!
why not?????why would the plant not grow to the light??