Howard Dean is scary!!!!!

[stewie]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/dean-to-socialist-don’t-exit-the-financial-crisis-let’s-work-for-global-new-deal/



With stuff like this coming out it is amazing these guys are surprised people don't want the crap they are selling anymore. The liberals are finally getting found out.

stewie https://www.rollitup.org/%3Cembed%20src=

 

[UncleBuck]

whoever did all the cropping, editing, and cutting of that clip needs to learn to spell correctly.

finical
policy's
instutional
implumentation

quite the indictment of whatever halfwit put this together, as well as the clamoring masses willing to buy into such a highly edited clip.



ps - you still haven't responded to me in regards to the 'plant cooling tread'. i'm sure you have some brilliant argument to put forth though

 

[BudMcLovin]

Social justice is bullshit. Who has a greater right to their money: the rich man or the poor man? The man who gave up part of his life to earn or the man the government thinks deserves it for doing nothing. It blows my mind how democrats always say they believe in fairness and equality for all but they have no problem demonizing people because they make money. They demand large sums of your money then they turn around and park their yacht in another state to avoid taxes.

 

[hanimmal]

Here is the full 4 minute video that was cut and pasted. It's funny that conspiracy nuts can pretty much always count on any video over 2 minutes long that doesn't come with scary music and fire behind a pick of Obama or Bush dressed in some lunatic military leader garb not being watched by their followers.

http://vimeo.com/8050332

And for the people that don't feel like clicking, by social justice Dean was talking about getting people to work and the fact we should not forget that the time lag between recessions and unemployment. There was some garbage he started out with too, but guess it wasn't scary enough for them.

I am not the huge Dean fan either, I think that he leans too much on union support and allows it to cloud his understanding of economics as he tries to force the reality of social welfare programs being needed for millions of people, and somehow thinking that it is as much needed for the middle class who have much more skill and opportunities, and information about salaries to be able to make better educated decisions about the job being worth the money.

But nothing scary here just a lot of out of context clipping like every other garbage conspiracy video I have seen.

 

[stewie]

Here is the full 4 minute video that was cut and pasted. It's funny that conspiracy nuts can pretty much always count on any video over 2 minutes long that doesn't come with scary music and fire behind a pick of Obama or Bush dressed in some lunatic military leader garb not being watched by their followers.

http://vimeo.com/8050332

And for the people that don't feel like clicking, by social justice Dean was talking about getting people to work and the fact we should not forget that the time lag between recessions and unemployment. There was some garbage he started out with too, but guess it wasn't scary enough for them.

I am not the huge Dean fan either, I think that he leans too much on union support and allows it to cloud his understanding of economics as he tries to force the reality of social welfare programs being needed for millions of people, and somehow thinking that it is as much needed for the middle class who have much more skill and opportunities, and information about salaries to be able to make better educated decisions about the job being worth the money.

But nothing scary here just a lot of out of context clipping like every other garbage conspiracy video I have seen.

I'm not sure if you listened to what he said. How is him talking about pushing social justice " out of context" ? Seems to me you are just trying to down play social justice. play " your " video again. I will say that was a nice play but your video has the same words. so your point is?????

As everyone forgot the principles country was founded on ? In case you have it is Judaeo-Christian.

 

[UncleBuck]

I'm not sure if you listened to what he said. How is him talking about pushing social justice " out of context" ? Seems to me you are just trying to down play social justice. play " your " video again. I will say that was a nice play but your video has the same words. so your point is?????

As everyone forgot the principles country was founded on ? In case you have it is Judaeo-Christian.

i'm not quite sure how being founded on judeo christian values is an indictment of social justice in any way...

"Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me." - Matthew 25:40

the catholic church believes that the moral test of any society is how it treats its most vulnerable members.

social justice is also a big thing for us jews.

but i suppose parroting glenn beck is very stylish nowadays:

[video=youtube;CXWH8Wjo6gU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXWH8Wjo6gU[/video]

 

[hanimmal]

Wow you mean the words are the same! That is what this type of editing does, it uses words and phrases actually said and cuts them until what is said is nothing close to what was meant.

It is because if you watch the full video he was not talking about, your video opens with him saying "We don't need an exit strategy for the financial crisis, we need an entrance strat for the social crisis." When what he was talking about was the unemployment situation. Nothing scary here, just basic political garbage. Calling for us all to work better together is a really good idea because we are a global economy and what happens over there does affect us. He is wrong in many areas, but they all are. And just because someone uses the word 'social' you all shouldn't immediatly jump to thinking of Soviet Russia, it has a meaning that has nothing to do with socialism as the word social came first.

As everyone forgot the principles country was founded on ? In case you have it is Judaeo-Christian.

So what? They also wrote into the laws to stop the bigotry that comes from you godly people but you all have ignored that too.

 

[NoDrama]

Both sides use editing and trickery to make their adversary look as bad as possible.

 

[ink the world]

Both sides use editing and trickery to make their adversary look as bad as possible.

True, except one side has an entire "news" network doing the same

 

[NoDrama]

True, except one side has an entire "news" network doing the same

The republicans have Fox attached to their dicks, and CNBC has the Democrats all lined up for blowjobs. The rest of the Networks side for whoever has the most sensationalism value.

 

[abe23]

Frankly, I haven't seen democrats editing a lot of videos to make it seem like a republican politician is saying something completely different but maybe I don't pay enough attention.

And you guys are obviously a little bit too into glenn beck if you're parroting his talking point about social justice and judeo-christian values. It seems very strange to me that people would focus on the parts of the bible that call for death by stoning to adulterers and homosexuals, but ignore the whole part about loving thy neighbor and being good to the weakest in society. And also, we owe far more to secular humanism than religion as far as the constitution and declaration of independence go.

 

[hanimmal]

Nah it's just we are in power now. But think about all the fun we had at bushes expense. You just got to give it to beck and fox news for taking it higher than Moore and CNN ever thought to do.

And as far as the bible goes, it's not like god wrote it, just a bunch of old white guys with no special divine insight. So it makes sense that it is full of holes and contrary acts right?

 

[abe23]

You might be right about the first point. I try to ignore the insane lefties, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. CNN seems to be more on the side of pointless drivel than cynical far-left politics though...

Well, the whole hating on gays part is in the 'old testament' along with stuff about not eating shellfish or keeping slaves. Ironically, Jesus' message seems to be more about be nice to other people...

 

[stewie]

i'm not quite sure how being founded on judeo christian values is an indictment of social justice in any way...

"Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me." - Matthew 25:40

the catholic church believes that the moral test of any society is how it treats its most vulnerable members.

social justice is also a big thing for us jews.

but i suppose parroting glenn beck is very stylish nowadays:

[video=youtube;CXWH8Wjo6gU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXWH8Wjo6gU[/video]

I never said anything about a religion did I ? All I said was we were founded on a Judaeo-Christian values. I never said anything about one religion over the other. You can have belief in the values and not the overall principle of one religion over the other. Yes Social Justice and the founding principles are not close at all. Read about both and you will see. If you need links let me know and I can send all you want.

I mean this with kind words

Next you better take his words at face value just like anyone else. Why do people always hear everything except what the person said? Look at his record. Yes we should think of Soviet Russia. Were they not run by the government? The only jobs were government jobs just like today. We are a republic of the people not the government.

Where does it stop and when do WE THE PEOPLE get to live ? Liberals make wild claims about tea party people but with the RACIST past of the liberal and democrat parties I see them as things of the past. It was the democrat party that supported slavery, it was the democrat party that support the KKK, it was the democrat party who wanted a whole separate nation where slavery was law. It was and as always been the democrat party who has stood in the way. It was the Muslim ship captains that brought them here 200 years before our country was founded. We never discuss that! Why does history point one way while people involved in that history ask you to look the other way ? While pointing fingers at other people ? Let's talk about the Republican party being started by black men. Let talk about this for a little bit! So we can discover who lies to whom.

stewie

 

[stewie]

oh and Media matters....really....Please post something that can be fact checked. Yes I do believe what Mr. Beck would tell me over Media matters. He does ask people to look into it for themselves to find the truth. If it was a lie would not every news network be saying it is a lie ? No just media matters trying to down play how we have been slowly changed over time and not for the best.

Question everything, google it and double check it people. It's your life they are playing with. It is not a game where we get to reset if shit don't work out.


stewie

 

[UncleBuck]

the only thing i was responding to was post 5, where you seemed to take a beck-like stance against social justice, and then cited the abandonment of judeo-christian values. i pointed out that social justice and judeo-christian values go hand in hand. the media matters clip was not supposed to be proof of anything, just something to show how you were simply parroting glenn beck.

 

[stewie]

the only thing i was responding to was post 5, where you seemed to take a beck-like stance against social justice, and then cited the abandonment of judeo-christian values. i pointed out that social justice and judeo-christian values go hand in hand. the media matters clip was not supposed to be proof of anything, just something to show how you were simply parroting glenn beck.

Social Justice is a Liberal Philosophy, Judeo-Christian is based off of god. So no they DO NOT go hand in hand. Please, research the two.

 

[UncleBuck]

Social Justice is a Liberal Philosophy, Judeo-Christian is based off of god. So no they DO NOT go hand in hand. Please, research the two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice

Social justice generally refers to the idea of creating an egalitarian society or institution that is based on the principles of equality and solidarity, that understands and values human rights, and that recognises the dignity of every human being.[1][2] The term and modern concept of "social justice" was coined by the JesuitLuigi Taparelli in 1840 based on the teachings of St. Thomas Aquinas and given further exposure in 1848 by Antonio Rosmini-Serbati.[1][3][4][5][2] The idea was elaborated by the moral theologian John A. Ryan, who initiated the concept of a living wage. Father Coughlin also used the term in his publications in the 1930s and the 1940s. The concept was further expanded upon by John Rawls and John Stuart Mill in the 1860s. It is a part of Catholic social teaching.



social justice has been adopted by the left, but has its origins in religion. i know you would like to separate the two and call me a godless liberal, too bad for you. not all liberals like me are godless, and many people from the right side of the spectrum also believe in social justice.


you are pushing glenn beck talking points. please, try to come up with some original material.


"Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me." - Matthew 25:40

"This is what you shall do; Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown or to any man or number of men, go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with the young and with the mothers of families, read these leaves in the open air every season of every year of your life, re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency not only in its words but in the silent lines of its lips and face and between the lashes of your eyes and in every motion and joint of your body."
— Walt Whitman

 

[abe23]

That's bullshit, buck. Jesus was all about the benjamins, not about sharing. That's socialism. Get your shit straight.

And jesus said unto his disciples: "get money, y'all!"

 

[stewie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice

Social justice generally refers to the idea of creating an egalitarian society or institution that is based on the principles of equality and solidarity, that understands and values human rights, and that recognises the dignity of every human being.[1][2] The term and modern concept of "social justice" was coined by the JesuitLuigi Taparelli in 1840 based on the teachings of St. Thomas Aquinas and given further exposure in 1848 by Antonio Rosmini-Serbati.[1][3][4][5][2] The idea was elaborated by the moral theologian John A. Ryan, who initiated the concept of a living wage. Father Coughlin also used the term in his publications in the 1930s and the 1940s. The concept was further expanded upon by John Rawls and John Stuart Mill in the 1860s. It is a part of Catholic social teaching.



social justice has been adopted by the left, but has its origins in religion. i know you would like to separate the two and call me a godless liberal, too bad for you. not all liberals like me are godless, and many people from the right side of the spectrum also believe in social justice.


you are pushing glenn beck talking points. please, try to come up with some original material.


"Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me." - Matthew 25:40

"This is what you shall do; Love the earth and sun and the animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown or to any man or number of men, go freely with powerful uneducated persons and with the young and with the mothers of families, read these leaves in the open air every season of every year of your life, re-examine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency not only in its words but in the silent lines of its lips and face and between the lashes of your eyes and in every motion and joint of your body."
— Walt Whitman

Once again PLEASE READ MY WORDS. You keep adding your OWN thoughts to MY WORDS.... Not only that, You have purposely left out the most important part. This is from the exact spot where you got and pasted from but left this out. why? It is how we get to social justice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice

Social justice is based on the concepts of human rights and equality and involves a greater degree of economic egalitarianism through progressive taxation, income redistribution, or even property redistribution. These policies aim to achieve what developmental economists refer to as more equality of opportunity than may currently exist in some societies, and to manufacture equality of outcome in cases where incidental inequalities appear in a procedurally just system "

Let's look at some nice key topics in the above statement. Progressive Taxation, income redistribution, property redistribution. This sounds like the times of King George!!!! using terms like that.


You are talking about the Catholic religion. I am talking about principles. I'm not sure why you keep trying to change my words in to something I am not saying. The two are different.

The founders of our country would have never allowed for Social Justice. So please don't act like just because one religion teaches it over another makes it a legit philosophy for our country. If Glenn Beck is right about something he is right. Provided your back up to prove different. Posting a link and saying the Catholics teach it and it Liberals adopted it makes it the solution ? I thought you all didn't like the Catholic's ?

Read history it will set your free. Instead of repeating the Media matters crap that is a lie.

stewie