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TitoM

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hah thanks...im really crossing my fingers everything goes to as planned.

hey good to have ya around man! any questions let me know.

ran into a couple of fungus gnat larvae today...was checking runoff water (which was 6.5) and noticed the little guys by the hundreds. i flushed with ph balanced water....then watered with permethrin and then flushed again. i then added nutrient enriched water. i also foliar sprayed with neem and permethrin lightly, ill let everyone know how they are doing in the mornin. this may be stressful...had to do it.
hope everything go smooth
 

aeviaanah

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theexpress

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do you guys feed as much as you can get away with? till slightly burnt tips?
fuck yeah i do................. gotta push the limits...

i will cut back when i see burning....... or i will feed at the same dose next time untill i feel tolence is buuilt to that particuler level of nutes....... i dont like to see burnt tips has much has the next guy, but there is a line between mild mild nute burn and on the brink of death burnt and you will know whwen you crossed it trust me
 

LiveHigh

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do you guys feed as much as you can get away with? till slightly burnt tips?
I think burning the plant is a bad thing always. It's definitely not nearly as bad to slightly burn, but it's still not good at all. So I definitely don't ever aim to even slightly burn the tips. I aim to give as much as I think the plant can handle, and then I hope the runoff is the exact same PPM as it went in.

When I'm too lazy to check runoff PPM, as long as the leaves look a healthy green for their strain, I'm happy. I find the leaves turn a pale green when they're hungry for more nutes.
 

theexpress

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I think burning the plant is a bad thing always. It's definitely not nearly as bad to slightly burn, but it's still not good at all. So I definitely don't ever aim to even slightly burn the tips. I aim to give as much as I think the plant can handle, and then I hope the runoff is the exact same PPM as it went in.

When I'm too lazy to check runoff PPM, as long as the leaves look a healthy green for their strain, I'm happy. I find the leaves turn a pale green when they're hungry for more nutes.
the plant will let you know what it wants.... if its yellowish its hungrey. if a very few tips are burnt your feeding a wee bit too much..... a lil burn is nothing... i would personally like to be a lil over nuted then under nuted.... even though its always better to underfert then overfert for the most part.....

i like to keep my leaves flawless in veg, but care less during bloom.. afterall if the buds we smoke not leaves
 

aeviaanah

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right on....yes some of my plants are dark green and others are light green...different needs i take it.
 

theexpress

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right on....yes some of my plants are dark green and others are light green...different needs i take it.
exactly my friend... some strains will feed like a beast while other will be very nute sensitive and also many inbetween variables...

but keep in mind strain variance for leaf color has well.... its not soo much about shades of green, has it is shades of yellow....
 

LiveHigh

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The thing is, overfert damages the plant, while underfert makes it hunger for more. IMO and from what I've heard and experienced, it's far better to give the plant a little less than it needs than a little more.

And yeah, strains are definitely different shades of green, but you can tell when the plant goes from being its usual color green to showing lighter, paler green parts. I want my leaves to start yellowing and dying off after week 6 or so of flowering, but before that I try to keep them as normal as shade of green as I can. Yellowing is no bueno IMO.
 

theexpress

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The thing is, overfert damages the plant, while underfert makes it hunger for more. IMO and from what I've heard and experienced, it's far better to give the plant a little less than it needs than a little more.

And yeah, strains are definitely different shades of green, but you can tell when the plant goes from being its usual color green to showing lighter, paler green parts. I want my leaves to start yellowing and dying off after week 6 or so of flowering, but before that I try to keep them as normal as shade of green as I can. Yellowing is no bueno IMO.
everything CAN damage a plant bro... even shit it needs... like wind can snap a plant while also strenghten, water will cause roots to rot and mold on buds... has well has keep your plants alive...nutes will burn your plant if over used ..but at the same time will help your plants flourish..... like i said if you have a decent sized plant loaded with fan leaves, and only on like 4-5 leaves are the tips a very small amount burnt.... thats nothing to worry about... that should tell you something about how much your feeding and how much to feed.... what i would do in the situation is flush, then feed a lil less, or feed the same has you fed last time to build tolerence..... BUT KEEP IN MIND YOU WONT HAVE THIS LUXURY IF YOU BURN THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR PLANT THE FIRST TIME... LOL
 

LiveHigh

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Yo...I was wandering around in Al B Fuct's thread and came across this quote of his. It just supports what I thought. I think even a little nute burn causes reduction in growth and yield, even if it isn't much. Which wouldn't be something you would necessarily notice if your entire crop is getting it.

"CG, you're right, knowing where to stop can be tricky. There's a bell-curve to this- not enough, just right and dead.

The trick with nutes is to use enough to get plants without deficiencies but not so much as to produce nute burns. Once you pass the peak of your bell curve, more nutrients will cause a reduction in growth.

If you like, you can grow a few plants at the same time that you give nutes of differing strengths to, perhaps 200ppm between each sample, and see for yourself which produces burns or deficiencies, etc. Bear in mind that before doing such testing, all other conds in the op have to be spot on so you are sure that when you see some symptom in the plants, you can be sure it is caused by the difference in nute strength as opposed to something like excessive air temp, for example."


I know it's a fairly obvious thing that burning is bad, but I think people look at it wrong in that slightly burning your plant is giving your plant all it needs and then a little damage to the leaves. It's more than that; It hurts growth and will hurt yield.

I look at it this way. We've all seen how big and compact buds are capable of being, and yeah I know strains matter, etc. But I think 99% of people, including me, don't grow their buds to their max potential for lots of reasons, and this is one of them. I see nice looking buds on plants all the time, but very rarely do you see nice looking, big, and hard buds...because the stuff people mostly mess up on is the stuff that results in achieving the max out of your plant.

These are just my opinions, and I quoted Al B. Fuct because he's someone I think is intelligent and knows what he's doing.

edit: basically, it's all part of dialing in to get the most out of your plant.
 
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