as censorship continues, .....

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
we waste time feeding Illuminati trolls. :roll:


http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-rochester/craigslist-censors-adult-section-where-s-the-tea-party-outrage

Craigslist has buckled to pressure from 17 state attorneys general and blocked access to its adult services section for U.S. visitors. The link on the site is now inactive and a black "censored" bar appears where the link would normally show.
Meanwhile, the Tea Party, a group dedicated to small government, freewheeling capitalism, and fewer government regulations on businesses has been silent on the issue. Doesn't it seem they should be righteously piqued?
There's an understandable urge to just say, "So long and good riddance." After all, the adult services section is well known for advertising thinly veiled offers for prostitution and other illegal activities under the guise of legal escort, dating, or massage services. However, it's important to note here that Craigslist has not been accused of any actual crime. The site merely provides an online classified ad service similar to that found in newspapers around the country.
It's hard to argue that a newspaper is liable for carrying an ad for a legitimate service that turns out to be something untoward. If the medium of the advertisement is suddenly responsible for the legitimacy of the product or service being sold, then the infomercial business would disappear overnight. Okay, maybe it's hard to argue that would be a bad thing either, but the point is that the vehicle of the advertisement is not accountable for the illegal activity, regardless of how distasteful the activity is. Think of it this way. If a TV station advertises a local carnival, and one of the carnival's rides has been improperly maintained and is a safety hazard, should the parents of children injured on that ride be able to sue the TV station? Yet, this is exactly what's happened in this situation. The government has repeatedly threatened and cajoled Craigslist on the basis that somehow it should be responsible for the ad's content. This, despite the fact that Craigslist has actively and voluntarily aided law enforcement on a number of occasions, and has made repeated attempts to make it harder for people to accidentally encounter adult services ads, or for illegitimate businesses to place them.
The cold reality is that Craigslist is a perfectly lawful business. What they are doing has been done by print newspapers forever. Yet they are being singled out and harassed by a government overstepping its bounds. This is exactly the sort of example you would expect Sarah Palin to whip out at her next rally as an example of big brotherish government run amok. But it's highly unlikely that will happen.
With the exception of Rand Paul, who seems to stick to his Libertarian ideals even when it runs him toward uncomfortable conclusions, most of the Tea Party faithful are fervently in favor of the big broad brush ideals of freedom, liberty, and small non-intrusive government, but get oppositional when those ideals lead them astray of their moral convictions. Tea Party ideals should result in strong support for Craiglist, but the larger moral disgust for "adult services" will override that. Of course, Tea Party ideals should also result in a Pro-Choice position, a movement to get out of unaffordable foreign wars, and support for legalization for marijuana.
It won't. But if it's all about ideology, it should.
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
we waste time feeding Illuminati trolls. :roll:


http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-rochester/craigslist-censors-adult-section-where-s-the-tea-party-outrage

Craigslist has buckled to pressure from 17 state attorneys general and blocked access to its adult services section for U.S. visitors. The link on the site is now inactive and a black "censored" bar appears where the link would normally show.
Meanwhile, the Tea Party, a group dedicated to small government, freewheeling capitalism, and fewer government regulations on businesses has been silent on the issue. Doesn't it seem they should be righteously piqued?
There's an understandable urge to just say, "So long and good riddance." After all, the adult services section is well known for advertising thinly veiled offers for prostitution and other illegal activities under the guise of legal escort, dating, or massage services. However, it's important to note here that Craigslist has not been accused of any actual crime. The site merely provides an online classified ad service similar to that found in newspapers around the country.
It's hard to argue that a newspaper is liable for carrying an ad for a legitimate service that turns out to be something untoward. If the medium of the advertisement is suddenly responsible for the legitimacy of the product or service being sold, then the infomercial business would disappear overnight. Okay, maybe it's hard to argue that would be a bad thing either, but the point is that the vehicle of the advertisement is not accountable for the illegal activity, regardless of how distasteful the activity is. Think of it this way. If a TV station advertises a local carnival, and one of the carnival's rides has been improperly maintained and is a safety hazard, should the parents of children injured on that ride be able to sue the TV station? Yet, this is exactly what's happened in this situation. The government has repeatedly threatened and cajoled Craigslist on the basis that somehow it should be responsible for the ad's content. This, despite the fact that Craigslist has actively and voluntarily aided law enforcement on a number of occasions, and has made repeated attempts to make it harder for people to accidentally encounter adult services ads, or for illegitimate businesses to place them.
The cold reality is that Craigslist is a perfectly lawful business. What they are doing has been done by print newspapers forever. Yet they are being singled out and harassed by a government overstepping its bounds. This is exactly the sort of example you would expect Sarah Palin to whip out at her next rally as an example of big brotherish government run amok. But it's highly unlikely that will happen.
With the exception of Rand Paul, who seems to stick to his Libertarian ideals even when it runs him toward uncomfortable conclusions, most of the Tea Party faithful are fervently in favor of the big broad brush ideals of freedom, liberty, and small non-intrusive government, but get oppositional when those ideals lead them astray of their moral convictions. Tea Party ideals should result in strong support for Craiglist, but the larger moral disgust for "adult services" will override that. Of course, Tea Party ideals should also result in a Pro-Choice position, a movement to get out of unaffordable foreign wars, and support for legalization for marijuana.
It won't. But if it's all about ideology, it should.
:clap::clap::clap:Good post!:blsmoke:
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
it's some bullshit. somewhere, someone has him by the balls. there is more to this then a handful of people whining.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
come on they are censoring us, like you are censoring me stop deleting what i have to say.
when YOU have something to say, i'll be more than happy to listen. i won't allow you to spam my threads with your non stop youtube links. it's getting old and you are offering nobody here nothing. you can stop, or simply leave. i'll let you decide.
 

AzNsOuLjAh27

New Member
lol but its them talking about how they want to censor the internet? why do you have to censor me about it? if its b/c you don't want to them to see that footage, then this thread needs to be closed, and started by someone who actually cares about censorship.
 

AzNsOuLjAh27

New Member
but they want to censor the internet, and this might effect this page too since they linked marijuana with terrorism in the patriot act. This stuff is important, its not a game its not my thoughts its what they are saying. And why are complaining about censorship it really makes no sense, when you go ahead and censor people youself.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
but they want to censor the internet, and this might effect this page too since they linked marijuana with terrorism in the patriot act. This stuff is important, its not a game its not my thoughts its what they are saying. And why are complaining about censorship it really makes no sense, when you go ahead and censor people youself.
i'm not censoring YOU. i'm deleting your SPAM.

i want to hear YOUR thoughts. it why we are here on this forum. most of us anyways.
 

AzNsOuLjAh27

New Member
my thoughts on the subject of censorship? I believe people that censor are either afraid of people finding out the truth about something, or they are brainwashed and can't take the information they are being told but.. the ultimate goal of censorship is to not let other people see information you don't want exposed.

for example

[video=youtube;JUpq8idF1ow]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUpq8idF1ow[/video]
You don't want other people seeing this so you will delete it.

This makes Obama look bad and therefore you will protect him, by deleting this and not allowing other people see this information. that is the goal of censorship.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
my thoughts on the subject of censorship? I believe people that censor are either afraid of people finding out the truth about something, or they are brainwashed and can't take the information they are being told but.. the ultimate goal of censorship is to not let other people see information you don't want exposed.

for example

[video=youtube;JUpq8idF1ow]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUpq8idF1ow[/video]
You don't want other people seeing this so you will delete it.

This makes Obama look bad and therefore you will protect him, by deleting this and not allowing other people see this information. that is the goal of censorship.
no i won't delete this, simply to prove you wrong. but i will delete any more you post on this thread.
 

ink the world

Well-Known Member
Thanks FDD,..

AzNsOuLjAh27, all yo do is spam here with your tinfoil hat bullshit......this IS a marijuana growing site, you havent posted a SINGLE thing about growing, only conspiracy laden bullshit and insults for those that dont agree with your crackhead "politics"

Congrats man, a lot of fools have some and gone here, you are the first Im actually adding to my ignore list. Do us all a favor, contribute something about growing or piss off.

Let us see your grow and maybe show you belong here, until then you're just another conspiracy nutjob w/ an internet connection and not enough female companionship.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Does not choosing to allow advertising constitute censorship? Because that's all your doing is advertising for a different website, you keep calling it your opinion, or you say your trying to get the truth out there bit you are just a commercial for Alex jones movies.

As far as craigslist I really am against this if they were forced to do it, but if they did it on their own that's not reducing anyones rights. It's just a business decision. Hopefully for their sake they have a plan to get back the millions they are losing, but sometimes bad press costs much more than losing a great customer.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
they were sent letters from the attorney generals of 17 states.

craigslist is not breaking any laws. it would be like going after rollitup for having seed ads.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
they were sent letters from the attorney generals of 17 states.

craigslist is not breaking any laws. it would be like going after rollitup for having seed ads.
i don't disagree with you, i don't really even have an opinion on it. just to play devil's advocate though....

their website facilitates and profits from prostitution, sometimes child prostitution. this often leads to violence against women. CL claims they manually screen every ad, and report those that may contain underage and human trafficking or other illegal activities...yet the authorities RARELY if ever are notified by CL despite the tens of thousands of ads that get posted. that is aiding and abetting.

54 underage children have been found on craigslist ads over the years...

if you tell someone where there is a good car to steal and tell them how to hotwire it, it makes you just as guilty as the person that steals the car in the eyes of the law. aiding and abetting.

also, this is not a violation of the first amendment, even if they were ordered to shut it down, which they were not. first amendment rights may be abridged when public health and safety is a concern, as in shouting 'fire' in a crowded theatre. with the abundance of evidence showing human trafficking and underage prostitution and the violence towards women that goes along with it, there is clearly a public health and safety concern here.

amber lyon did a good piece about this.

now switching away from my devil's advocate role...i am interested to see what CL says about this. they have yet to make a comment, whether it was voluntary or brought on from the pressure applied by state AG's.

and this is NOT censorship. no government official MADE them close or censor the section. they did it all by themselves, they were never made to comply with any official order, even if pressure was applied.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
this site seems to shut itself down enough as of late.
hahahhaha. touche'.

we grow too fast. the server is loaded again.





i was just really surprised to see them pull the ads voluntarily. it doesn't seem like something someone like them would typically do. it's been a big debate fopr years now. then suddenly they say, "alright, fine". and just give in. i wonder why.


you can still buy weed. :cool:
 
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