If They Legalize It.
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ford442
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there has not been direct discussion of those possibilities.. it is not included in the proposition - it will be up to individuals to appeal and judges to commute sentences.. so, it will effect the rulings for everyone involved i believe, but it is not a get out of jail free card..
nl3004.kind
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they probably will say that because the offenses occurred in the past (when it was illegal) they still stand... it is a shame, but probably there will be no blanket immunities... the worst would be the person who gets nabbed a day before it becomes legal... that's would be the worst...
Hekinsieden
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Then we will all be able to go to walmart or Giant eagle or other grocery stores and pick out fresh uncured buds as if they were apples!
Imagine 3$ a pound!
Or Pre-cured in vacuum sealed baggies for a little more than the uncured ones.
Imagine 3$ a pound!
Or Pre-cured in vacuum sealed baggies for a little more than the uncured ones.
Killer Vanilla
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this, they still broke the law so they will still be getting screwed on
mrgreennwhite
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There will always be a market for marijuana. But if prices nosedive I imagine many people moving here to export and make bank.
MrStickyScissors
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Iv heard that its not going to pass. im not sure why but sumthing about sum lady lol even if it does pass fuck it it will never pass in nevada and thats just a skip away
MrStickyScissors
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fuck it give me a free pass to grow dank I will grow 50 pounds of it asap and find a way to the east coast
doctor.j
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with legalization comes taxes, its that way with every mass used substance i.e. tobacco, alcohol, legalization is good for the government it that in will both save and make them a ton of money bad for growers and consumers because the sell price will drop and the buy price will rise, it should be kept "illegal" but with less restrictions
Commander Rainbow Veins
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im rooting to see you get to the east coast when or when it happens
Dan Kone
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That makes no sense. How can the buy price rise if the sell price drops?
nathenking
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If the price of MJ is at a certain price now, why would they lower it... The people already have shown they will pay certain prices... It would make no business sense to lower the prices... "But their will be more competition"- actually there won't, there will only be a few places that will be allowed to mass produce it. So those few places will set their prices and everybody will pay it... Plus, growing indoor, paying taxes and people to work for you as well as the 200,000 a year you need for your licesnse... They are gonna have to keep the price up to make the people that invest in these places any money... If they are very efficient, they will be able to sell there ganja for 150 a ounce, but lets not forget the 50 dollar tax... So that puts it at 200 a ounce... 200 bucks for some commercial indoor... yeah right, ill pay my 300 for killer underground strains grown organically by a decent man any day... And so will everybody that I know... Support your people and fuck the corporatization of MJ...
Dan Kone
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Many, many places will be growing a lot of fields of it. Don't kid yourself. Humboldt will let anyone who applies have a permit. Mendo is so eager they already have a permit plan waiting. Same with Santa Cruz city and county. Can't help but think counties like Sonoma will be far behind. There will be a shit ton of new buds on the market. It's not like anyone who is growing now is all of a sudden going to stop. There will be a lot of market competition, prices will drop.
I have no doubts that many (maybe even most) northern California economies will have a healthy growing economy. The only real concern is that feds might screw with legal grows over a certain size. These counties may have to allow a lot of smaller grows rather than a few massive ones for that reason.
From growing it till it hits dispensary shelves now there is over 1000% markup even for indoor. I did the math on my last cycle of hydro and there was a total of a 1200% markup by the time it hit dispensary shelves. Bud doesn't cost a lot because of growing expenses. Who says every city/county will have a $200k per year permit cost? City of Santa Cruz has already allowed two permits. Do you know how much those permits cost? $0.00. That's right, they were free under the condition that they be solar powered. So to assume the permits will cost $200k is not a good assumption.
Half price? Yep. All buy that. Isn't half price a pretty big improvement?
No where does prop 19 mention a $50 tax. No where does prop 19 actually create a tax. No where in prop 19 does it allow for a tax that local government couldn't place on cannabis without prop 19. Prop 19 doesn't tax cannabis. If you or anyone else doesn't believe me, I challenge anyone to show me where prop 19 creates any tax which local governments couldn't place on medical cannabis now if they wanted to.
Well you won't be alone in that. I'd say most people will prefer their locally grown smoke. Prop 19 will keep those prices down too. They will lower their prices to be competitive with large commercial grows.
nathenking
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Who is to say that the ganja that is grown by these warehouses wont go to a dispensary that has a mark up as well... Lets say the people that distribute it get it for 2500 a pound (whole sale) What will they have to sell it for for them to make a decent profit, and pay taxes and sales tax... im assuming 1000 dollar mark up... so that is 3500 dollars for some commercial indoor... Out of that 1000 dollars 300 of it goes to Uncle Tom... So 700 bucks... That is if american greed all of a sudden just stops... yeah right man... there is not gonna be some crazy price drop... it makes no business sense... R. Lee already said that the prices wont drop, he said why would we do that if the market has already show to pay a certain price... makes sense to me... if I was him I would get as much as I could out of it... Its all about the bottom line... Especially when you have people investing and they want money back out...
nathenking
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I sure did bro... It was a bit early in the morning...lol
Dan Kone
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Because that bud will already have the existing product to compete with. If you add supply to a market, prices drop.
Who is going to put a 30% tax on cannabis? Even the highest tax set right now on cannabis is only 20%. Assuming that 30% will be average is a completely baseless assumption.
nathenking
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then tell what it will be Dan