What is happening to the USA?
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Babs34
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Thank you NoDrama.
Christians don't deny their worship of Christ, as they see Jesus as being the Son of God, and in essence God "in the flesh."
Muslims are really flippant in denial with their claims they do not worship their "prophet" Mohammad.
To believe allah to have taken a "partner" is shirk.
In 12:106, Allah says that majority of those who consider themselves believers are in fact, mushrikeen.
The kaafir is the one who denies and conceals the truth. The basic meaning of the word kufr in Arabic is concealment. Shirk means devoting worship to anyone or anything other than Allaah.
Islam Question and Answer - The difference between the mushrikeen and the kuffaar, and to which category do the Jews and Chri...
But the truth is that mohammad is no different in islam as Christ is to Christianity. This is clearly evidenced via the quran and hadith teachings.
Babs34
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Wow...thanks for the lesson. I suddenly feel "enlightened."
..and as for the rest of your garbage, be gone wit ya.
Consider the concept of lying. According to Sharia, deception is not only permitted in certain situations but is sometimes deemed obligatory. For instance, and quite contrary to early Christian tradition, not only are Muslims who must choose between either recanting Islam or being put to death permitted to lie by pretending to have apostatized; many jurists have decreed that, according to Koran 4:29, Muslims are obligated to lie.
According to Sharia, deception is not only permitted in certain situations but is sometimes deemed obligatory. For instance, and quite contrary to early Christian tradition, not only are Muslims who must choose between either recanting Islam or being put to death permitted to lie by pretending to have apostatized; many jurists have decreed that, according to Koran 4:29, Muslims are obligated to lie. The doctrine of taqiyya
Much of this revolves around the pivotal doctrine of taqiyya, which is often euphemized as "religious dissembling," though in reality simply connotes "Muslim deception vis-à-vis infidels." According to the authoritative Arabic text Al-Taqiyya fi Al-Islam, "Taqiyya [deception] is of fundamental importance in Islam. Practically every Islamic sect agrees to it and practices it. We can go so far as to say that the practice of taqiyya is mainstream in Islam, and that those few sects not practicing it diverge from the mainstream. Taqiyya is very prevalent in Islamic politics, especially in the modern era [p. 7; my own translation]."
Some erroneously believe that taqiyya is an exclusively Shia doctrine: as a minority group interspersed among their traditional enemies, the much more numerous Sunnis, Shias have historically had more "reason" to dissemble. Ironically, however, Sunnis living in the West today find themselves in a similar situation, as they are now the minority surrounded by their historic enemies Christian infidels.
The primary Koranic verse sanctioning deception vis-à-vis non-Muslims states: "Let believers [Muslims] not take for friends and allies infidels [non-Muslims] instead of believers. Whoever does this shall have no relationship left with Allah unless you but guard yourselves against them, taking precautions" (3:28; other verses referenced by the ulema in support of taqiyya include 2:173, 2:185, 4:29, 16:106, 22:78, 40:2
.Al-Tabari's (d. 923) famous tafsir (exegesis of the Koran) is a standard and authoritative reference work in the entire Muslim world. Regarding 3:28, he writes: "If you [Muslims] are under their [infidels'] authority, fearing for yourselves, behave loyally to them, with your tongue, while harboring inner animosity for them. Allah has forbidden believers from being friendly or on intimate terms with the infidels in place of believers except when infidels are above them [in authority]. In such a scenario, let them act friendly towards them."
Regarding 3:28, Ibn Kathir (d. 1373, second in authority only to Tabari) writes, "Whoever at any time or place fears their [infidels'] evil may protect himself through outward show." As proof of this, he quotes Muhammad's close companion, Abu Darda, who said, "Let us smile to the face of some people [non-Muslims] while our hearts curse them"; another companion, al-Hassan, said, "Doing taqiyya is acceptable till the Day of Judgment [i.e., in perpetuity]."
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/7347/war-and-peace-and-deceit-in-islam
[video=youtube;n-UDl3j8WZQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-UDl3j8WZQ&feature=player_embedded[/video]
blazeddd
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first of all you idiot, muslims do NOT believe that jesus was the son of god or praise mohammad like a god or the son of god. its not about allah taking a partner, if you knew anything about the ghoran, you would know many stories including one that stated the 3 men who seek to "see" god. if you read that story, you would know no muslim accepts mohammad as a god or for that matter ANYTHING/ONE as god.. you can not see him, for he is too powerful and you will die instantly, even with a glare.
now you go and copy/paste some shit to try to prove that muslims are obligated to LIE ABOUT THIS? LOLOLOL you sir, are a complete retard. the only way you can rebuttal my argument is to apparently copy/paste, simply wave off the argument as "garbage" and change topics. every one of your posts are just jokes. very funny jokes because it shows how stupid and hateful people can be.
anyways.. im done feeding your trolling mind, as you do not even know how to carry an argument properly. have fun trolling other people kid.
Babs34
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Your post was HILARIOUS.
There you go again...teaching me something.
No, muslims do not believe Jesus is the son of God...did you have a point?
Again...
Al taqiyya is very real and alive my dear....and practiced by their dear prophet, as well as taught.
Care to teach us anything else? ...or just change the topic yet again?
Mindmelted
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Actually tard baby babs said nothing about muslims believing jesus was the son of god.
So in reality you are the retard....
So in reality you are the retard....
Babs34
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ginjawarrior
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Infuriating watching this sob speak of constitutional values.
Who the hell does he think he is?
He speaks of hypocrisy?
[video=youtube;LskRNdvnOk4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LskRNdvnOk4&feature=related[/video]
sounds like he's pretty spot on. which part in particular do you not agree with?
i 100% agree with the video
bLITzkRIEg420
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that video makes my ass pucker. again, I challenge you to go to a muslim country like Iran and tell them what rights you have as a Christian or a jew. that is the hypocrisy in this whole debate.
iran doesn't have the american constitution, that's the fallacy of your debate.
bLITzkRIEg420
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Koran 9:29
“Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191
“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123
“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5
“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85
“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.” Koran 9:30
“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33
“The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque.” Koran 9:28
“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19
“Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.” Koran 47:4
“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65
“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28
“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12
“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60
bLITzkRIEg420
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no wordz the fallacy of the debate could be the constitution
so just because iran does something we should do it too? that's so fuckin dumb but you should already know. Oh well I'm right, the laws of our country side with me.
bLITzkRIEg420
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blaze... were you not loved as a kid or something? can you add to a conversation with anything productive or you just insult people to make yourself feel better because your little wee wee never grew?
bLITzkRIEg420
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wordz takes one to know one...
you just made all that shit up. it's not even in the crayon.