NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow

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To be honest i came in here to see results not hate or bash like you claim so you should have just kept your nose and mouth in your own thread.
So what now you are trying to get led growers to gang up on your defense???lmao
 

Magnificient

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I like the setup. It looks too expensive to me. I've tried to rep you a number of times Serapis, but something's up there. It always says that I have to spread rep around first. Then after repping 20 other people, I still can't rep you.

Very nice setup. You'd get rep, but you see how it is.
 

daviaces

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thats better wyteberry quote from above from you -the fact still remains that leds do not yield more than hps
and then in your next post Now if you use 400 watts of led to a 400 watt hps then maybe it will have more yield
looks like u actually have done some research now
 
thats better wyteberry quote from above from you -the fact still remains that leds do not yield more than hps
and then in your next post Now if you use 400 watts of led to a 400 watt hps then maybe it will have more yield
looks like u actually have done some research now
I should have stated when i was referring to leds i was talking about the manufacturers claims 90 watt is equivalent to 400 not 400 led for 400 hps.
 

daviaces

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ah the bs claims of the con/cheap led companys ,well i must agree with you theyre 90w led does not match 400hps
200 to 300w led matches a 400hps(more like 440w draw) is much more realistic
 
got 107 grams of 1 and 120 of the other. using only 1 90w...this is a quote from the op.107+120=227 a half pound equals 224 so how is he not claiming he gets a half pound everytime???
That is what the op stated and when i asked to show this he had no proof.
So how he did not make such a claim when this is him stating he gets a half pound.Again what are you talking about willis.
Keep it civilized all the name calling is not called for.Motherfucker this and dumb ass that.lets not go there.You jumped in a thread that you clearly dont know what was going on because if you read you would know what the op stated and you would not be saying shit.
 
And then you compared him to the guy that claimed a half pound. You are a moron. What does he have to prove to you? He grew, he posted his results. You claim any good results are BS and they need to prove to you the weight. WTF are you? Nothing but a hater of LEDs.... go BS about and praise your HIDs elsewhere.
What results did he post?Not half pound results.Thats the claim thats what im looking for.
Thats exactly why you should have kept your mouth in your own thread.Because the op im talking about is the same guy who stated he got a half pound from a 90 watt led like i said you dont even know what you are talking about willis
 

daviaces

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please wyteberry just stop ,start another thread or something this is the guys grow journal and your wrecking it
sorry to post again about non grow journal related item but this is getting daft
 

Pure

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Pretty fiesty in here!!! Hmmmm I like fiesty :twisted:, gets the creative juices flowin

Well i'm running a 90W Illuminator UFO. not just your average ebay UFO mind you. ANd as i did quite a bit of "Pfft" well a little bit of reading prior to my purchase. Apparently there is also another benefit had from growing with LED's "higher Resin content"! resin production has purportedly higher when using LED's, and just on a side note Illuminator LED's also have UV LED's in their pattern, UV lights being known for raising resin production. Again this is all things I've read. My first grow was under a 400W HID Early Girl feminized. This grow is Shining Silver Haze "femmed" started under x2 15w Flora Glo's then moved under the Illuminator 90W UFO. I'm sure there is someone else out there growing a silver haze, under a different lighting system than a 90W UFO as I am. If anyone knows of someone or has some silver haze seeds and is willing to do a push under lights, then lets get a thread going so we can compare actual results. I'd be willing to buy another type of seed in order to make the comparison grow with someone. It would be nice if that person is using Adv nutrient nutes as I am. but we cant get all the variables perfect so ....This comparison may work with any strain close in characteristics to shining silver haze. If no takers then maybe I'll dust off the old 400W and see what damage I can do to my electricity bill on my next grow!!
:peace:

Ciao,
Pure...
 

Pure

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+ Rep Serapis,

Shit just for standing your ground!! Oh Rah!!!!

WhtBrry, it seems your at least relaxing your posture and not taking such a hardliner approach! Hell + Rep for you too!!

But both of you gotta remember, dudes, were tokers not fighters. Especially amongst ourselves! Screw the anger, we all have resources to some degree so lets work together and and do some Mythbuster like production, for future MJ growing generations.. Sounds good no?

:peace:
Ciao,
Pure...
 
+ Rep Serapis,

Shit just for standing your ground!! Oh Rah!!!!

WhtBrry, it seems your at least relaxing your posture and not taking such a hardliner approach! Hell + Rep for you too!!

But both of you gotta remember, dudes, were tokers not fighters. Especially amongst ourselves! Screw the anger, we all have resources to some degree so lets work together and and do some Mythbuster like production, for future MJ growing generations.. Sounds good no?

:peace:
Ciao,
Pure...
Thats all i want.Results to these claims instead of people saying they are better than hps.
 

luckyskindaguy

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The sad thing is, I actually am gonna have to side with wyteberry on this one. I have personally come across threads that Serapis has made inappropriate comments in. It is one thing to say what you want in a thread you start, but another to make claims in someone else's thread. I am going to name Serapis "Defender of all LED threads" since that is how he seems to come off.

I actually have followed this thread with interest. However, I have now realized that Serapis is acting like a child and I for one am not going to reward him with any more positivity.

Serapis, you are showing as much, if not more, of the attitude in which you are complaining about. You just happen to be on the LED side. Look in the mirror dude. Grow up and then you might gain more respect from people who are on here to learn and not just point fingers. Best of luck to everyone
 

daviaces

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+ Rep Serapis,

Shit just for standing your ground!! Oh Rah!!!!

WhtBrry, it seems your at least relaxing your posture and not taking such a hardliner approach! Hell + Rep for you too!!

But both of you gotta remember, dudes, were tokers not fighters. Especially amongst ourselves! Screw the anger, we all have resources to some degree so lets work together and and do some Mythbuster like production, for future MJ growing generations.. Sounds good no?

:peace:
Ciao,
Pure...
great reply your the one who should get the rep lol
 

breakneck

Calyx LED
Great post. +REP
+ Rep Serapis,

Shit just for standing your ground!! Oh Rah!!!!

WhtBrry, it seems your at least relaxing your posture and not taking such a hardliner approach! Hell + Rep for you too!!

But both of you gotta remember, dudes, were tokers not fighters. Especially amongst ourselves! Screw the anger, we all have resources to some degree so lets work together and and do some Mythbuster like production, for future MJ growing generations.. Sounds good no?

:peace:
Ciao,
Pure...
 

Serapis

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The sad thing is, I actually am gonna have to side with wyteberry on this one. I have personally come across threads that Serapis has made inappropriate comments in. It is one thing to say what you want in a thread you start, but another to make claims in someone else's thread. I am going to name Serapis "Defender of all LED threads" since that is how he seems to come off.

I actually have followed this thread with interest. However, I have now realized that Serapis is acting like a child and I for one am not going to reward him with any more positivity.

Serapis, you are showing as much, if not more, of the attitude in which you are complaining about. You just happen to be on the LED side. Look in the mirror dude. Grow up and then you might gain more respect from people who are on here to learn and not just point fingers. Best of luck to everyone
Any claims I have made have been backed up with other grow journals. In fact, the only claim I have made is that LED lights will out perform HID lamps every time! Granted I'm not talking about BS panels, I'm talking real lighting, watt for watt. Whyteberry knows very well what I'm referring to, as I've posted about a 205W Hydro-Grow Infiltrator that grew 1 gram of tight bud per watt used, while an hid lamp pulled 0.69 grams per watt.

To the person that doesn't take into account that the 400w was nearly double the power of the LED light, they declare the hid lamp the winner cause it grew about 60 grams more than the LED, however, the LED used HALF of the ELECTRICITY. Why is it that those that bash LEDs never take that into account or admit it out loud?

Luckyskindofguy, please cite any inappropriate claims I have made. And also consider this, I'm not in EVERY LED post in RIU, but Whiteberry and his fellow LED basher Juicebox sure as hell are. If you don't want to follow this thread, please feel free to adjust your scribe settings. I stated from the beginning this was a simple grow with 100% LEDs and that I was not making any claims nor was I going to debate the pros and con vs HID lighting.

That was not the purpose of this thread. However it has been made so by an inconsiderate poster that refuses to acknowledge a simple watt for watt comparison, that was actually in another thread entirely. Another poster stated his plants produced this and that, and Whyteberry has the audacity to call him a liar and say prove it. The guy has nothing to prove, he was just reporting in his fucking journal. So yes, I'm fed up of Whyteberry and Juicebox, to VERY vocal anti-LED posters....

I realize LEDs don't produce the same as HID when comparisons are made such as this 200W LED is comparable to a 400W hid. However, if you actually compare them fairly for wattage used, the LED lights smoke hid any day. I stand by that and there is plenty of proof of it online in many grow journals and comparison grow posts.

If I'm childish because of my beliefs, then so be it. I'm not going to let two guys consistently hit every LED thread and trash the lights without saying something. If that makes me childish, then fuck it. If you don't like my attitude, hit the fucking door. You don't have to post your leaving the thread, just leave it.
 

Pure

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great reply your the one who should get the rep lol
Whoa Thx my brother from another mother for Greenpeace :joint: :D!,

Good looking out Dude. I'm of the mindset that if we get any group of troubled people together around some "Nacho Cheese" Doritos, some nice sticky "Sativa" (Sativa so that everyone can stay awake) :wall: , and pfft anything to drink except alcohol! ALL issues, and I do mean ALL can be resolved! :hump: Ye haw!!

Ummm I'm not so sure my method will work in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, etc... Those are some deeply rooted issues, it might take a bit more than Doritos to dislodge those...:mrgreen:

:peace:
Ciao,
Pure...
 
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