The sad thing is, I actually am gonna have to side with wyteberry on this one. I have personally come across threads that Serapis has made inappropriate comments in. It is one thing to say what you want in a thread you start, but another to make claims in someone else's thread. I am going to name Serapis "Defender of all LED threads" since that is how he seems to come off.
I actually have followed this thread with interest. However, I have now realized that Serapis is acting like a child and I for one am not going to reward him with any more positivity.
Serapis, you are showing as much, if not more, of the attitude in which you are complaining about. You just happen to be on the LED side. Look in the mirror dude. Grow up and then you might gain more respect from people who are on here to learn and not just point fingers. Best of luck to everyone
Any claims I have made have been backed up with other grow journals. In fact, the only claim I have made is that LED lights will out perform HID lamps every time! Granted I'm not talking about BS panels, I'm talking real lighting, watt for watt. Whyteberry knows very well what I'm referring to, as I've posted about a 205W Hydro-Grow Infiltrator that grew 1 gram of tight bud per watt used, while an hid lamp pulled 0.69 grams per watt.
To the person that doesn't take into account that the 400w was nearly double the power of the LED light, they declare the hid lamp the winner cause it grew about 60 grams more than the LED, however, the LED used HALF of the ELECTRICITY. Why is it that those that bash LEDs never take that into account or admit it out loud?
Luckyskindofguy, please cite any inappropriate claims I have made. And also consider this, I'm not in EVERY LED post in RIU, but Whiteberry and his fellow LED basher Juicebox sure as hell are. If you don't want to follow this thread, please feel free to adjust your scribe settings. I stated from the beginning this was a simple grow with 100% LEDs and that I was not making any claims nor was I going to debate the pros and con vs HID lighting.
That was not the purpose of this thread. However it has been made so by an inconsiderate poster that refuses to acknowledge a simple watt for watt comparison, that was actually in another thread entirely. Another poster stated his plants produced this and that, and Whyteberry has the audacity to call him a liar and say prove it. The guy has nothing to prove, he was just reporting in his fucking journal. So yes, I'm fed up of Whyteberry and Juicebox, to VERY vocal anti-LED posters....
I realize LEDs don't produce the same as HID when comparisons are made such as this 200W LED is comparable to a 400W hid. However, if you actually compare them fairly for wattage used, the LED lights smoke hid any day. I stand by that and there is plenty of proof of it online in many grow journals and comparison grow posts.
If I'm childish because of my beliefs, then so be it. I'm not going to let two guys consistently hit every LED thread and trash the lights without saying something. If that makes me childish, then fuck it. If you don't like my attitude, hit the fucking door. You don't have to post your leaving the thread, just leave it.