Autoflower Thread & Resource Guide

KolorBlind

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hey kb how ya been? glad to see ppl discovering autos. fun plants to have around. well back to CS
Been well man, nice to see ya pop in. Does CS = Couter-Strike??? If so, we must play together, been playign that game for over 10 years lol. I stick to source now though.

hi guys heres my Cobra and Stoned
Man those are looking FANTASTIC bro, so healthy!! Great job, cant wait to see how they turn out!

KB
 

jeb5304

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Been well man, nice to see ya pop in. Does CS = Couter-Strike??? If so, we must play together, been playign that game for over 10 years lol. I stick to source now though.
havent played that in a while. cs is club speedy. id like to play again. maybe soon lol.
 

Crypnotic

Active Member
This is NONSENSE!!! Haha. I thought the same thing back when I rented, then a good friend came over and showed me just how easy it is to patch drywall. Landlords can never keep up with damages in their rentals, plus they pay people to fix things for them. If you patch a hole correctly, they will never even know its there. I told my landlord when I moved out that I put a small hole in the wall, and patched it up real well. He was thrilled that he didnt have to do any work, and I never heard from him other than getting my deposit back in the mail. The best part is, there is no way to tell it was a circle, so no one would ever assume it was for ventilation.

If you are interested, it will let you do so much more, here is how to cerrectly patch drywall:

-Find 2 studs, and cut your hole right in between them.
-Then when it comes time to move, cut a large rectangle around the hole that goes from the center of one stud to the other.
-Go to Home Depot and ask for some scrap drywall (they always have some). Worste case, spend $6 on a small piece of new drywall
-Measure the hole and cut a piece to fit as snug as possible.
-Use nails to secure the cut piece to the edges of the studs that you left exposed.
-Patch the seams with mud (very, VERY easy) and sand it all down.
-Paint over it with some cheap interior semi gloss white paint (thats what almost all renters use).
-You're done!!


In case you do decide to go that route, I make a little sketch in Google Sketchup (best program ever for designing grow rooms/cabs, and its FREE). The circle is the original hole, the rectangle around it is the hole you will cut before you move. I even colored the studs :)

Whatever you decide, hope tyhe grow goes well and thanks for being a productive debater and not an asshole, I love to see people who can agree to disagree and not get bent out of shape. Its how we all learn from each other, so keep up the good vibes :)

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KB
I hear ya. But I wood in my closet. If I cut a whole in that, the landlord would know. It hard to patch without it looking like shit. Or is there a way it can be done without notice?
 

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ChroniCDooM

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Need some advice on my auto grow. I am currently on day 21 from seed. I have 1easyryder and 2 onyx that I just transplanted to square 3 gl pots. I now know I should have started them in their final pot. I probably should have transplanted before tonight. I hope they don't receive too much shock. Up to the transplant they all look pretty good and today I noticed that all are female. I am using a 270w enhanced spectrum LED light called the supernova. I have had the plants under 24/0. Should I leave the light on the same schedule? Should I switch to 20/4 or will that mess them up? Anyone change the light cycle on autos before? I have a grow journal with pics going. No new pics till tomorrow after football though. Thanks for any help you can give a rookie!
 

uptosumpn

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I would put them on 20/4....the plant needs to "rest/sleep"...this will also promote streching and will save a lil' $ on power bill...;)
 

bobhamm

Active Member
so heres a question, what happens to an autoflower if you just nip off the buds and leave the rest? does it just die? since not photoperiod you cant really reveg it, just wondering if anyones let there af just keep going
 

sonar

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Need some advice on my auto grow. I am currently on day 21 from seed. I have 1easyryder and 2 onyx that I just transplanted to square 3 gl pots. I now know I should have started them in their final pot. I probably should have transplanted before tonight. I hope they don't receive too much shock. Up to the transplant they all look pretty good and today I noticed that all are female. I am using a 270w enhanced spectrum LED light called the supernova. I have had the plants under 24/0. Should I leave the light on the same schedule? Should I switch to 20/4 or will that mess them up? Anyone change the light cycle on autos before? I have a grow journal with pics going. No new pics till tomorrow after football though. Thanks for any help you can give a rookie!
Hey man Easy Ryder is awesome. There is a fruity pheno that everyone I gave some to loves. Even more so than my non auto plants. I'd keep them on the 20/4 schedule. Mine did after about 2 1/2 weeks. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about the transplant. As long as you are gentle you won't notice much of a transplant shock.
 

kromm

Member
wow, great post! thank you so much for the useful info. this is my 1st grow and im kinda winging it so far. if i could ask you another question it would reallyhelp me out further. how many t-5 4 foot tubes would i need to veg 16 auto flowers?
 

kromm

Member
You know what I love about the word can't? Any time it is used, it inspires someone to try anyways. In this case, it most certainly CAN be done, it would just be an awful waste of money. The cheapest way would be to go to Home Depot and buy five 68w (300w Replacement) CFLs to flower them with. They are the size of footballs and use a regular socket. But they are $15 a piece, plus you would have to buy sockets and not to mention that the CFLs would not penetrate nearly as far, giving you less bud per plant. You can go with the higher end CFLs (125 true watts or better) but they require different, more expensive sockets, and for the price you could have bought a nice HID with a reflector and remote ballast.

I did flower 2 Diesel Ryders under a single 68w CFL and got just over 7g dry off each. I think I could have ended up with more but I had to keep them in small 6" pots due to height restrictions, and the light schedule was on 12/12 because I had other strains in the cab that were not AF.

And as far as the 600w goes, it would be ideal but I really think you could do 12-16 AF plants SOG style in small (1gal or less) containers under a 400w, maybe even a 250w and get decent results. I have 8 Diesel Ryders and 3 Apollo11 (non AF) under a single 250w right now and they are all looking gorgeous, none of them stretching for light. Now all mine are in 1gal grow bags, and I am not topping or training in any way, otherwise the canopy would be so large I would need two 250w.

I think most people who prefer CFLs have to worry more about heat and thats why they go with CFLs. Well Im here to tell you, 250w of CFLs get hotter than a 250w remote ballast HPS. Each CFL had a ballast between the bulb and socket which produces heat along with the bulb. Watt for watt, a remote ballasted HID bulb will always be cooler than a CFL. What CFLs are damn handy for is supplemental light, or when you are using no more than 150 actual watts. Anything more than 150 actual watts of CFL in one space, and you could probably increase your yield by 25% or more just by switching to a HID bulb of equal wattage.

There's just nothing I hate more than seeing someone spend gobs of money on a zillion CFLs when one HID would do much better, run cooler, and be easier to maintain. I was scared of HID bulbs for a long time, but once you use one you will always have them in your arsenal. Now for veg I ALWAYS use CFLs or fluorescent tubes because you typically dont need hundreds of watts.

Just putting some food for thought out there. All too often I hear people thinking they have to conform to a certain way of doing something because people say it CANT be done. Well many years ago people would have said fluorescent lights CANT grow quality buds, or AF strains CANT produce high potency buds, and we have proven them wrong so why not keep trying? :)

KB
wow, great post! thank you so much for the useful info. this is my 1st grow and im kinda winging it so far. if i could ask you another question it would reallyhelp me out further. how many t-5 4 foot tubes would i need to veg 16 auto flowers? and this is prolly gunna sound stupid but does CFL = flourescent tubes?​
 

KolorBlind

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so heres a question, what happens to an autoflower if you just nip off the buds and leave the rest? does it just die? since not photoperiod you cant really reveg it, just wondering if anyones let there af just keep going
That's a damn good question. I know one time I let a couple of my Diesel Ryders go for about 11 weeks and all the leaves were starting to turn brown and crispy, so I would imagine if you cut off the buds that is what would happen. I have some going now, so maybe come harvest time I will try it out and see what happens exactly.



wow, great post! thank you so much for the useful info. this is my 1st grow and im kinda winging it so far. if i could ask you another question it would reallyhelp me out further. how many t-5 4 foot tubes would i need to veg 16 auto flowers?

Heya Kromm, glad I could help. As far as the T-5s go, I have never owned any but for 16 autos I think two 4 foot tubes would do the trick, four would probably be best. It really depends on how long you plan on keeping them under the T-5s. The "veg" period is so short, that I usually keep mine in 16oz cups for the first 2 weeks, then put them all under a 250HPS. 16 of those cups would easily fit under two 4 foot tubes.

Oh and CFL = Compact Flourescent Light, they are the corkscrew looking light bulbs you see everywhere now. Just remember, if it says the light is 23w, but 100w equivalent, it will be referred to as a 23w light on these forums. People use the actual wattage when describing CFLs. They are very efficient because you dont need 2 to 4 feet of space to install them. but from what Ive read lately, if you can afford the space for a T-5 setup, that is the way to go. CFLs are also outstanding for supplemental lighting during flower so that your lower and side buds get more light.

Best of luck!
KB
 

sonar

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I don't care what anyone says T-5 and T-8 are awesome for seedlings and early veg. I think 2 would probably be enough also for the first couple weeks until they start flowering. Get 6500K daylight bulbs and keep them about an inch away from the plants. Maybe 2-3" for the first few days. Once they start flowering though you'll probably want something a little strong than fluorescent tubes.
 

weedmad

Member
hi can any one help me out i have 5 lowlife ak47 1 shortrider there 42days old 2day and only last week showed there sex but they still aint flowering any idea whats wrong and y they took 35 dyas to sex that isnt normal is it? thanks in advanced
 

enonumus

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hi can any one help me out i have 5 lowlife ak47 1 shortrider there 42days old 2day and only last week showed there sex but they still aint flowering any idea whats wrong and y they took 35 dyas to sex that isnt normal is it? thanks in advanced
Wow, didn't show sex until day 35? Stable autos will usually show sex around day 18-19, give or take a day or two. Did you purchase the seeds from Nirvana by any chance? Post pics please.
 

weedmad

Member
Wow, didn't show sex until day 35? Stable autos will usually show sex around day 18-19, give or take a day or two. Did you purchase the seeds from Nirvana by any chance? Post pics please.[/QUOTE

the ak47 are from lowlife and the short rider is from nirvana my camera is playing up at the moment i'm going to get a new 1 2moro and load some ppics up in my journal do you reckon i just had a bad batch of seeds
 

enonumus

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Wow, didn't show sex until day 35? Stable autos will usually show sex around day 18-19, give or take a day or two. Did you purchase the seeds from Nirvana by any chance? Post pics please.[/QUOTE

the ak47 are from lowlife and the short rider is from nirvana my camera is playing up at the moment i'm going to get a new 1 2moro and load some ppics up in my journal do you reckon i just had a bad batch of seeds
Um, so you actually purchased the AK47s directly from Lowlife, not through Nirvana, but purchased the Short Rider directly from Nirvana? It makes perfect sense if you purchased them all from Nirvana, regardless of who the alleged source is, but if you purchased them separately from the two different seed banks (weird since Nirvana sold both) and planted them at the same time, then it would be a little more bizarre.

If you're not already aware, Nirvana supposedly pulled their entire line of Autos after countless complaints of their so-called Autos not actually being Autos (or not being stable). Customers found that the plants didn't show sex or flower for 45-60 days or more if at all, usually requiring switching to 12/12 to get them to flower, and by that time they were usually MUCH larger than the supposed maximum height for that type of plant. Search this thread and others for more info if you're not aware of the issue. Whichever ones you purchased from Nirvana, contact them and let them know that your Autos didn't AF when they were supposed to, and they'll almost certainly send you some new seeds to compensate, but they'll probably be Photoperiod :?.
 

ZenOne

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Hey fellow AF growers!

i just picked up a regular 10 pack of auto bluberry from lowlife seeds (Djshort Blueberry X Lowryder)
ive only tried growing a AF strain once and that was a free auto bublicious i got with my last set of seeds,
but my plant only grew about 5 grams dry, i did shock it a bit and it was outside so it did not receive a 24/0 light cycle
but im just wondering since it basically doesn't have a vegg cycle, is there any good techniques of growing it to get maximum yeild?
Anyone with experience in this please help just wondering if i should try fimming or topping or just a little lst?
 
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