Advanced Nutrients Big Bud is it worth it?? ( Indoor soil grower)

bigsourD

bigsourD

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AN, GH, FF, Canna, Who needs them? This guy sure as hell didn't-

humboldtlocal said:
Hey Roll It Uppers. I am pretty active on some of the other boards but figured I would give you guys a taste of Humboldt as well. I grow legally for a Nor Cal Collective.
These are all organically grown without the use of any bottled nutrients. Over 30 strains. Most are my own creations.
Enjoy the pics.
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https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/362733-humboldtlocals-outdoor-2010-a.html#post4580609
 
decrimCA

decrimCA

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Gotta love it when folks like bigsourD have all of this 'knowledge', and then spend all of their time on a board.

Um, if you're such a master grower with all of these answers, shouldn't you be growing instead of talkign to the 'noobs' on these boards? LOL

So yeah, hype is hype is hype. And you just need to listen to what makes sense to you and then decide whether you want to try out a product or not.

That's the trick with these board sometimes.

A. People think that everyone is telling the truth on these boards. Yeah, right. Everyone hypes up their own grows.

B. People think that everyone's experience needs to be the same. Nope again. I mean, I know that AN works for me, but that doesn't mean it's going to work for everyone. At the same time, having just one bad experience with a nutrient doesn't mean that the nutrient is bad either. Growers aren't perfect, you know.

C. Some folks just enjoy bashing other nutrients. I don't bash other nutes because that's just not helpful to anyone. I can talk up my own grow schedule, but I really don't give a damn what anyone else uses. I mean, I'm not getting paid to convince anyone to buy something, so why should I bash anyone? How does that help me? I think the folks that like to continuously bash others are just insecure about what they're doing. Why else would they do it? A personal vendetta? LOL

So, yeah, getting off my soapbox here, let's all stick to the topic.

The guy wanted to know about Big Bud in soil. I think it works well to help boost your grow in the end, and using the powder seems to work best for soil grows.

Good luck to the original poster - assuming they haven't already given up on the boards....LOL
 
bigsourD

bigsourD

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Gotta love it when folks like bigsourD have all of this 'knowledge', and then spend all of their time on a board....
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I just came across a cool thread and noticed they weren't using any nutrients. It was a neutral post in the aspect of this topic. Way to be an ass.

A. People think that everyone is telling the truth on these boards. Yeah, right. Everyone hypes up their own grows..
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I guess your admitting that your a liar to look cool on the internet? There are plenty of legit grows here.

Some folks just enjoy bashing other nutrients...
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This damn thread started from someone asking for an opinion. Go back to pg 1.
 
RemeberMe

RemeberMe

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bigsourD said:
I just came across a cool thread and noticed they weren't using any nutrients. It was a neutral post in the aspect of this topic.
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Organic does NOT mean no nutes. I am sure they are using TONS of nutes on those. I think it means more like they aren't using any toxic pesticides.
 
maverik713

maverik713

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decrimCA said:
Gotta love it when folks like bigsourD have all of this 'knowledge', and then spend all of their time on a board.

Um, if you're such a master grower with all of these answers, shouldn't you be growing instead of talkign to the 'noobs' on these boards? LOL
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Ad hominem fail. To assert that folks like bigsourD and others, who have provided a cornucopia of facts to back up their claims, couldn't possibly be experienced growers and assist others on the forums is more of a testament to your ignorance than anything else.

You need to be able to make a distinction between someone who is disgruntled with a personal experience and someone who looks at all of the evidence, makes a decision, and may also be angry because they are against people being taken for their money.
 
hugetom80s

hugetom80s

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Not that it's cool to be bashing on bigsourD but it's not exactly cool to treat people like they're rubes if they buy nice nutes.

Lots of people use Advanced Nutrients. Maybe some of them buy AN because of the advertising. But to just stereotype everyone as suckers is insulting and prejudicial.

I use AN, and not because of the pictures on the bottle or any videos or posters or anything else. I use it simply because it does for me what I want a hydroponic nutrient to do better than anything else I've tried. And while it does cost more than some it works enough better - in my opinion - that I don't have a problem paying the difference.

I think a lot of the really aggressive AN talk you see is sparked by this attitude many of the people who hate AN put out. I know it pisses me off to see it.
 
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LuvMeSum420

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hugetom80s said:
I use it simply because it does for me what I want a hydroponic nutrient to do better than anything else I've tried. And while it does cost more than some it works enough better - in my opinion - that I don't have a problem paying the difference.
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Exactly.
I work, so I don't have time to learn how to become MjGyver with nutes, but I can afford to buy what I know works.
And I'm a lazy stoner farmer, so I need things simple. Besides, you know how it is once you get that shit dialed in!

I ran out of Big Bud once, and it was obvious that my buds were smaller. :cry:
That's all the proof I need and I will never run out again!

:peace: :blsmoke:
 
new guy25

new guy25

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I decided to get some Big Bud 0-15-40 for early flower and Overdrive 1-5-4 for the last to wks It aint that expensive for small grows The one's iv given overdrive 1 wk ago seem to have been given a boost already gonna flush em today
 
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Coals

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There is one difference with those huge outdoor plants posted above, They were grown under the Californian sun. Automatically that means more efficient use of nutes, less nutes needed, much higher immune system function. There really is no replacement for full spectrum, intense growth light. I assure you that person could have grown those plants with miracle grow or worm poop or anyhting else for that matter.

As for AN, well personally I think they have purposely complicated everything in order to justify more products which translates into more revenue streams. Big BUd, Bud Candy and Overdrive all contain the same ingredients. The P and the K are just tweaked differently. Bud Candy contains the same stuff as Carbo Load, sweet leaf, big bud, and overdrive. So WTF? Why cant I just use Bud Candy which has easily the most ingredients and then just tweak the P and K? Thats exactly what I decided to try. I bought some H&G Shooting powder (0-9-20) which is super cheap and I use it to tweak the P-K ratio according to the stage of growth (I try to make the ratios similar to Big Bud and Overdrive and do so when they recommend using those products).
So far its been working great- I abseloutly love shooting powder (and roots excelurator for that matter).

I think that when AN came out with Bud Candy they knew it could not only replace Carbo Load and and sweet leaf but Big Bud and even Overdrive. I think they decided it would eliminate a huge revenue stream in Big Bud as everyone and their grandmother seems to use it. Better to just tell people they need both and not actually tell them why.
 
hooked.on.ponics

hooked.on.ponics

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homebrewer said:
SourD- you're right. Funny how no one had a response to that link you posted from the Oregon Department of Agriculture showing that AN is not only ripping people off on price, but ingredients too. :lol:

http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/PEST/docs/..._0630.pdf?ga=t
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Here it is again, propaganda and misinformation.

Let's consider for a moment the meaning of the term "Unregistered product".

If you're unlicensed to drive a car does that mean you've been convicted of DUI or some other offense that has resulted in your license being suspended? No.

It simply means you haven't gotten a license. If you'd been penalized and didn't have a license for that reason, the accurate term would be suspended license or something along those lines.


All this means is that Advanced Nutrients hasn't filed the paperwork or whatever you have to do to convince ODA to license your product for sale in Oregon.

I haven't done that either, and it's not because I'm ripping anyone off. It's because I'm not selling fertilizers in Oregon (or anywhere else for that matter.) The worm castings I give to friends and family to help with their gardens would be an "Unregistered product" according to the ODA, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with them.
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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hooked.on.ponics said:
Here it is again, propaganda and misinformation.

Let's consider for a moment the meaning of the term "Unregistered product".

If you're unlicensed to drive a car does that mean you've been convicted of DUI or some other offense that has resulted in your license being suspended? No.

It simply means you haven't gotten a license. If you'd been penalized and didn't have a license for that reason, the accurate term would be suspended license or something along those lines.


All this means is that Advanced Nutrients hasn't filed the paperwork or whatever you have to do to convince ODA to license your product for sale in Oregon.

I haven't done that either, and it's not because I'm ripping anyone off. It's because I'm not selling fertilizers in Oregon (or anywhere else for that matter.) The worm castings I give to friends and family to help with their gardens would be an "Unregistered product" according to the ODA, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with them.
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You didn't even read the link did you? How about you actually READ the link and then think about what you posted :lol:.

Here is the link: http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/PEST/docs/..._0630.pdf?ga=t
 
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[blank]

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soooooo i'm a new grower and the only thing this thread has proved to me is that there are alot of haters here..... im definitely going to be using AN for my first grow. whatever they did to make me want to use their products, it worked. so thats what im using.
i have no idea why you guys think they cost double the amount of other nutes... theyre about the same price. some of their additives may cost a little more, but theyre simple and i know exactly when to use them and how to use them, unlike some other additives from other product lines. ive decided to go with their 2 part sensi grow and sensi bloom with maybe something like big bud. ....not because of anyone on this thread, thats for sure
this is my first post and this is going to be my first grow. i think AN caters to the noob grower, so maybe thats why im using them. i dont mind forking out a couple extra dollars if i know (from 1st hand reports by MANY people) that im getting a quality product.
cheers

p.s. im waiting till i move to my new place, then its GROW TIME. im stoked. im already starting to buy all my materials ill be needing. ill be keeping posts on how things go, but it wont be for another month or so.
 
Zootime

Zootime

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Personaly i wouldn't spend that much on fertz, their products seem over priced with pretty labels. I don't pay for the labeling or the name, i pay for something that works at a fair price. In my opinion their are plenty of other fertilizer out their for cheaper that work just as well if used right. I'm a big fan of organics anyway. Advanced nutes = snake oil.

Coals said:
What "they did" to you is called marketing.
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LOL :wall:
 
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ttrossil

Member
I just harvested my second crop a few days ago. last time i used other nuets this time i used the entire advanced nuet line up Sensi Bloom A, B Big Bud, Bud Candy, and the results are exactly the same as my first harvest. 3 plants 14 ounces these plants grew in the exact same conditions on difference was the nuets and i saw no difference in bud size yield or in taste I'm going to be writing advanced systems and getting my money back lol 120$ down the drain. But don't get me wrong I'm def happy with my harvest:mrgreen:
 
hooked.on.ponics

hooked.on.ponics

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homebrewer said:
You didn't even read the link did you? How about you actually READ the link and then think about what you posted :lol:.

Here is the link: http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/PEST/docs/..._0630.pdf?ga=t
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You got me, I mistook that for this link:
http://www.oregon.gov/ODA/Pest/stopsales.shtml

The one you have is indeed a different set of information.

It's also information from last year, and has Advanced Nutrients listed as coming from Brandenburg Kentucky which is a little strange. It says that's where the product is registered from, but that still seems odd considering AN has pretty much all its assets on the west coast unless I'm mistaken.

I just don't put a lot of stock in that report. It only tested a few things, only one was from Advanced Nutes, and there's a lot of question in my mind over the whole Kentucky thing so I'm very skeptical.
 
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egykalapalatt

Member
Just to be clear:

The nutrient levels guaranteed on the label of BigBud were checked by Oregon State Pesticide Division, they check fertilizers randomly to see if they contain what the companies state on the product's label.

The biggest difference was in Mg levels.

7% Mg on the LABEL
0,0148% Mg in reality


Mg is almost entirely missing, if someone had magnesium deficiency using the AN line, know he knows why.



Source:
http://oregon.gov/ODA/PEST/docs/pdf/lab_2009_0630.pdf
 
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